'We Didn't Know How We Were Going to Win It'
Published: Sun, December 14, 2008 - 7:21pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Eric Mangini, Shaun Ellis, Jerricho Cotchery, David Bowens, Leon Washington, Buffalo Bills, Dick Jauron, Abram Elam, Brett Favre
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12/14 — There's no disguising it — the Jets were in a tough spot around 3:45 p.m. today. Their game and even their season hung in the balance.
"A lot of emotions were going through my head at that point in time," wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery said. "It was looking dark ... it was probably looking darker than dark."
But Cotchery never lost hope and neither did Leon Washington, standing near him on the Jets' sideline, as the defense tried to come up with a play against the Bills to reverse the visitors' 27-24 lead with time slipping away.
"Before the game, we knew we were going to win the game," said Washington. "We didn't know how we were going to win it."
Then came one of the several sparks that the Jets would need to pull this hard-fought game out and put it in the W bag. When Losman rolled to his right looking for the "kill shot," Abram Elam came storming off the right edge on a blindside blitz.
"He was smokin'," LB David Bowens said. "He made a heck of a play and got the ball out. That's what got it started."
And who got it finished? None other than Shaun Ellis, who a few players noted showed his tight end skills from high school and his athleticism that he put on display at the 2000 NFL Combine to pick up the ball on the bounce, tightrope down the left sideline and kick the pylon as he dived over the goal line, in the words of Thomas Jones, "like he was jumping into a pool."
We can say the Jets' 31-27 victory was a product of the Bills' play call — "That goes right on me," said coach Dick Jauron. "It backfired clearly and caused us to lose the game." Or we can say that the Jets' defensive players set it up with their players-only dinner and speakers' bureau at the Parsippany Ruth's Chris steakhouse on Thursday night. Or on the fans hanging in there on Fan Appreciation Day to create just the right atmosphere.
But head coach Eric Mangini draws some credit, too, for instilling the mindset during the week that Washington and others talked about after this game that kept the Jets in control of their postseason destiny.
"I told the team I expected us to win the game," Mangini said from the postgame victory podium. "They expected to win the game as well. How was it going to happen? There were no expectations there. I told them I didn't want any expectations there. What I wanted them to understand is whatever it took, however long it took, that's what we had to do."
One of the things that got the Jets started on their 14-3 lead was a renewed emphasis on getting Cotchery and Laveranues Coles involved more than they had been recently.
"I would say so," J-Co, who scored the second TD of the game, said of the intentionality of that strategy. "Coach [Brian] Schottenheimer and the offensive staff did a great job of getting everybody involved. It feels good anytime I can get the ball early — it gets me going. Laveranues is the same way."
Then when the Bills, wounded but game all the way, got a handle on that, out came Washington with that off-right-tackle play that the Jets have run like Schotty has drawn it up for the third time in the last eight games — fourth if you add Jones' 59-yard strut vs. Denver.
"My role, I realize, for this team is to prepare myself to provide a play when we need it," Washington said. "It might come on kickoff return, punt return, catching the ball. Yeah, I would say we needed a spark today, and I did a good job right before halftime."
That provided a 21-17 lead. And when the Bills took control away from the Jets and appeared to be ready to run and hide with a much-needed win and the Jets were experiencing the darkest hour of their day, then came the defensive sparks in triplicate: the Ellis/Abram collaboration, Darrelle Revis' pick on the Bills' next offensive play, and Kerry Rhodes' interception on the final Hail Mary that answered the Jets', not the Bills' prayers.
"We're still alive in the division," Rhodes told me on his way out of the Meadowlands. "It was a big win. If we'd lost that game, it would've been tough. We were able to get it done."
And they're still not giving the win back.
"We're 9-5 and it doesn't have an asterisk beside it," QB Brett Favre said. "It's kind of like in baseball, when you get a little 'punch-and-judy' right over the first baseman's head. The boxscore doesn't say punch-and-judy, it says single. A home run is a home run. A win's a win. Once again, it doesn't matter how you win them. All I know is this team is 9-5 and we're still in first place."
DT Kris Jenkins, who was a terror in the Game 8 win at Buffalo and as a result was double- and triple-teamed all game long today, had a similar take.
"It's a step in the right direction," Jenkins said. "I know everybody can argue about what happened. We're going to enjoy this one a quick second and then move on to next week."
"The Bus" on "Big Katt"
Jerome Bettis was in the house today. "The Bus" is working for NBC and he and a network camera crew were interviewing Jets players as they came out of their locker room following the win. The interviews will air tonight during NBC's airing of the Giants-Cowboys game.
One of Bettis' interview subjects was Shaun Ellis, and I couldn't help but ask one of this country's football folk heroes how he felt at watching a guy not much larger than he was during his Steelers heyday ramble down the sideline for a big score.
"It was good to see," Bettis said with one of his hearty laughs. "Actually, I saw like a little spin move there. That was pretty neat, to see a big guy like that make a play."
So does Ellis qualify for a new nickname. The Minibus? The SUV?
"He's getting there," Bettis said. "He's got to give it a little longer run. It was a short scoop-and-score. When he gets that long scoop-and-score and makes somebody miss, that's what the guys are looking for."
Leon's Top 40s
Washington came into the game leading the NFL in 40-yard plays, including returns, and added two more against the Bills. Here are Leon's ten 40-yard plays this season:
| Game | Opponent | Type | Yards |
| Game 3 | at San Diego | KOR | 94 |
| Game 3 | at San Diego | KOR | 45 |
| Game 5 | vs. Cincinnati | KOR | 46 |
| Game 7 | vs. Kansas City | run | 60-t |
| Game 8 | at Buffalo | KOR | 40 |
| Game 8 | at Buffalo | reception | 40 |
| Game 10 | at New England | KOR | 92-t |
| Game 11 | at Tennessee | run | 61-t |
| Game 14 | vs. Buffalo | run | 47-t |
| Game 14 | vs. Buffalo | KOR | 43 |
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (131)jak, 19 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 7:45pm ET"the clowney catch was great. favre s ints werent that bad ,1 deflected, 1 hit as he threw...still not a good day. t jones needs to get those short yrds. .seems he gets stopped alot on 2nd 3rd n short.leon needs to be the short yrdage man , or t richardson .san fran sat out f.gore tday so miami had an easier time of it."
JETFOREAL Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 7:52pm ET"the opening statement in this story says it all... get rid of the coaching did you not laugh your butts off watching don sutton do the hustle with the cane lol man that was good how the hell can the miami fins beat up the bills and then the 49rs who WEstruggled with and then this!! we did'nt know how we could win the game. the jets were lucky but thats not good and either is the defense we are bad"
Frank Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 7:54pm ET"It's comical reading this story the team did not deserve to win the game yet they did so good for them. Mangini dodged a bullet today and clearly all that technique work they did this week showed(not) on the field today. It was embarrassing and disgusting watching this high school caliber defense today. There is a lot of talent being wasted. Mangini needs to send Jauron a very big Christmas gift."
scjoe Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 7:55pm ET"Favre is right on one count, a win is a win, but wrong on another, there SHOULD be an asterisk on it. Lets be honest, this was a gift! I for one has had it with his INTs. That second one was just a horrible effort, he wasn't even looking downfield, he was looking straight up in the air, just horrible!!"
Jeremy Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:07pm ET"Hats off to TJ for his records. Leon's a STUD-we all know that! Nice to see Clowney make a catch, and a fine catch at that! It's very hard being a JETS fan. Does Mangini do anything but chew gum on the sideline?? He looks so uninvolved! Sutton needs to GO. The D schemes and playcalling are a complete joke. He rushed 4 nearly every play and allowed Lynch to rush at will. Congrats to the players!!!"
CFU Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:11pm ET"As much as I bleed Green this team really needs to step up. What happen to this team in that win streak. After beating Buf,NE and Tenn this team looked amazing and for once if actually looked like we could go to the big dance. Now it's the complete opposite what happend? Please out of all the years this team has a shot at SB but we need to find that team we had that was so domminate in the streak"
GcNetSpeed Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:21pm ET"Did anyone else notice or was it just me, That this was the first game out of the last three that opposing defenses could not key on the snap because Nick Mangold finally stopped lifting his head before the snap!!!!! "
lbsjets Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:25pm ET"the deffens still nedds to blitz more, they had no pressure at all today on the quarterback untill the end, and thats when they blitzed, causeing a fumble that won the game. blitz blitz blitz, and stop running the ball on 2nd and long or 3rd and 5 or more, we didnt get brett for no reason."
Jeremy Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:31pm ET"So, Justin Miller back to back games with return TD's! Another stellar move by mgmt! NE puts up 49 against OAK who destroyed the JETS. Mia beats SF who also destroyed the JETS. This coaching staff is a complete JOKE. It's so disappointing to watch the talent on the field suffer b/c Shotty, Sutton, & Mangini have no clue how to coach & motivate.Keep chewing your gum coach! What's happened to our D?"
Luis from Olathe KS Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:35pm ET"It is amazing that with less than two minutes to end the game our defense turn a possible fiasco into another chance for the playoff run. Winning beautiful or ugly still is a win. I salute the defense for the last minute performance and Leon for the running TD. GO JETS!!!!"
iowachick Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:46pm ET"A win is a win. I'm with Favre on that. He threw some nice long balls, so I will take his 2 INt with that---lots of QB's threw INT today. What we need is a PASS defense. That is what is killing us. That has nothing to do with Favre. We'll sure look stupid if we can't pull one together and the Dolphins beat us on passing--the ultimate embarrassment! I hope Mangini is aware of the poor Pass Defense."
Troy Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:47pm ET"This team has a hard time over coming its mistakes,they were in complete control when coles let the ball bounce off him and get picked off, they just deflated after that and let the bills gain life,Favre's accuracy was horrible at best,the D's tackling was just as bad ,BUT,we usually LOSE these games and maybe Elam's play and buff's bad call removed the black cloud that seems to never leave MAYBE"
Mike V Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 9:06pm ET"A defense this talented should never look as pathetic as they did most of this game. Did we forget how to blitz? The Jets need to rehire Walt Michaels as defensive coordinator (I don't care how old he is) and learn how to get tough, agressive, and hit people again. The Bills are terrible - but they pushed us around all day! JUST HIT SOMEBODY!"
troy Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 9:16pm ET"somebody send send Sutton and Mangini the tape of the Balt-Pitt game and study there D's ,we have the same pieces maybe even more in some spots, but aggressivness is in the coaching and those teams have it ,its a mental thing when teams play those guys ,to the point where they go into it thinking we cant do this or that instead of attacking( like teams do our D)HC cant think they can win this way"
troy Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 9:23pm ET"The Jags just said Gregg Williams will not return as their D coord. the Jets need to go get him he's a proven agressive ,smart ,fiery D coach ,lets face it Woody J is not going to get rid of mangini so a coord change on D is a must , I'd hire him now if Jax would allow it to consult "
Drew Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 9:27pm ET"Still not sure what B-Schott is thinking sometimes. We come out on fire up 14-3 but continue to throw the ball every down (when it was obvious Favre was a little off on his throws) instead of establishing the run with our great OL. I will never understand his rythym as a play caller. I dont even want to talk about the 3 pass plays out of our endzone. D and Favre were shaky but we won the game"
OldRogue Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 10:43pm ET"JETFOREAL: "...did you not laugh your butts off watching don sutton do the hustle with the cane lol man that was good...” -- Are you referring to BOB Sutton, or the man with the cane, Special Teams coach, Mike Westhoff? It doesn’t really matter, your whole post was moronic - no punctuation, and no sense. You probably shouldn’t drink and write."
jtsfan13 Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 10:57pm ET"seriously i agree with these guys... why not field goal? if we would've lost because of that i woulda flipped out, and what happened to this stellar run defense? what about favre? i thought he was done throwing 2 picks a game, and why did we go from the AFC's best to probably being the first team to mess up and screw up the playoff hopes? i love the jets and always have but come on"
Dennis Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 10:58pm ET"I am new to the Jets-came over on the Brett train from Green Bay-have been a Packer fan for 34 years. The Jets have been a breath of fresh air to me. Love watching a team up and coming. The Defense looks AWFUL sometimes an AWESOME at others...just check out the latest game. The tackling was embarrassing..but they never gave up! And trust me-Brett will give all he has-many times it works! 3MVP!"
dom r Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 11:10pm ET"The jets have to make major adjustments on the pass rush giving QB,S TOO MUCH TIME TO FIND RECIEVERS If they play this way in the playoffs it will be an early exit!"
ZARTAN Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 11:29pm ET"glad we got the win but not happy with it. Manghini is not Bill and really needs to syop trying to be.the players are never in a position to make plays and this has to be the coaching staff. Brett is saving our butts more than you guys can even imagine. We have a host of great players and their not playing to par LETS GO JET!!!! WAKE UP"
NJJET Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 11:37pm ET"Woody, we are so lucky to still be in contention. Thank God, we've had some coin flips go our way for the past few weeks. Please step up and rattle some cages. We need to put some pressure on opposing QBs!!! Unless the defensive scheme is changed, Miami will pick us apart and Chad will have a terrific day on 12/28."
draz Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 11:44pm ET"Terrible win, but a win nevertheless. Whatever the outcome of this season clearly, Sutton has to go. The biggest play of the game came on a safety blitz. Where was the d pressure all game you just can't send 3 or 4 lineman all the time. The D looked lifeless with no energy and lack of fire the last 3 games. Time to go back to the basics of tackling. I think next to jenks, elam could be d MVP."
BrickJET Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:18am ET"Brian Billick Jets Defensive coordinater 2009."
shc Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:21am ET"Wow, it shouldn't have even been a contest. Jets barely hung on, and just got lucky. Realize luck's part of the game, works both ways often, but this is a very talented team and it shouldn't have played out this way. And you gotta know, I'm strongly rooting for Jets - and Brett - from Wisconsin, alienating several relatives (on my husband's side). Guys get it together and make skeptics believers."
Pete Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:50am ET"I agree with allot of the critical points..but really..If I remeber right, there were allot of close call games with the Pats "near perfect" season. Same goes for a few close, dare I say, lucky, games for the G-Men too. We're not the Pat's of last year..but we're in it..aren't we...credit where credit is do and let's move forward."
Dan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:24am ET"BF is gonna do what he has to win. No one was complaining when it was 14-3. That 2nd int.not smart but the receivers have to learn to play defense and tackle.On 3rd and long that would have been as good as a punt. ball at 20 or 30.thats usually when he takes chances."
BigEd Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:48am ET"Unfortunately this team isn't going anywhere. The coaches haven't learned anything. They stick with the same script that isn't working and stubbornly refuse to change it. That's pride. That's when you fall. Today they got LUCKY. Here's all my marbles; Jets DON'T make the playoffs."
Norf4 Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:01am ET"Savior the win while you can boys; The West Coast is showing the sun setting on our season, and the fish looking forward to putting the final dagger in us after X-Mas. This was an UGLY win; and a win that should have been a no-contest win. Get ready for the trip out west this time, or don't bother coming home!"
Beresford Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 6:13am ET"The Pats are going to win out, so it won't even get as far as the Miami game unless the Jets beat Seattle next week."
Dorothy Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 6:34am ET"Brett and offense started out on fire...then after the ugly 1st INT it was all down hill...play calling changed the flow. When are we going to stop packing everyone in tight and running the ball....spread it out...during the game we have so much success in the spread out and running...why change at the end when we need the first down. Need to blitz the QB and give our DB's a chance too..."
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 6:37am ET"If this team can't show life and win outright against the BILLS at home on fan appreciation day after 2 terrible losses with the season and the playoffs on the line,Then it shouldn't be in the playoffs.That play saved Mangini,who if I was Woody Johnson,would be fired this morning.Our players are so good that no matter how bad he coaches they still win.FIRE HIM FIRE HIM FIRE HIM PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 6:43am ET"It kills me to say this but,Not Parcells,Weis,Crommel,Mangini,Law,Branch,Samuel,or any other players or coaches that left NE because they think they're good enough,will be anything without Belicheck.He was suposed to be my coach.I Hate him,but he was the reason any of the before mentioned ever looked good.I HATE HIM,but it's true and Mangini is USELESS!"
Ira Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 7:39am ET"Drew, The game changed after that 1st INT. They pulled in the attack mode after that play. In this league you take the wins however they come. Was it a gift? Of course but sometimes a team can take something like this and it could spark the team and get them on a nice run. Enjoy the Best Miracle in the Meadowlands. Other years the Jets lose. Somebody is watching over them. GO JETS!!!!"
Rick M Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 7:57am ET"I am a coverted Jets fan for one reason - Brett Farve. But as I watch, I have to ask the defensive coach, what do you guys practice? It is certainly not tackleing, 3-4-5 guys and still the Bills were clicking off yards like my Dad going through remote channels. This week, please do something to get your defense back on the right track, Brett and the offense can only do so much. "
Ira Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:05am ET"Randy, With the Jets getting 3 INT's in the 4 quarter yesterday was that a first or have they done that before?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Ira, the last time the Jets had three INTs in a quarter was in the fourth quarter of Game 11 in 2004, their 13-3 win at Arizona. The picks were by then-rookie Jonathan Vilma, David Barrett and Terrell Buckley."
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:07am ET"They didn't know how they were goin to win it? That's hilarious because they should't have. Thank you Buff. for dropping back to pass when you were blowin us up an runnin the clock out? Sugar coat it all you want Mangini. Hope we can turn it around cause another performance like that an we'll be home for the holidays. Most talent in division an we are lookin like we have the least?"
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:19am ET"a reporter asks mangini about the pass D and he says they have one of the most explosive WR in evans, makes it sound like there the montana led 49's. UH? didnt this team just come off back to back 3 point efforts offensively? what is he thinking? ive seen this stubborn behavoir before and those coaches are no longer coaching. heres to hoping he wakes up some day. J E T S...JETSJETSJETS"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:23am ET"And someone tell Pace next time that happens instead of directing traffic block someone,Bills almost got Ellis ,if Pace would've blocked Ellis could've walked in.We look like last year's Giants.Coach is terrible,QB aint playing great and we will make the playoffs even though we don't belong there.No one is gonna respect us in the playoffs(if we make it)which helped the Giants out last year."
joe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:26am ET"Thank you Bills coaching staff. What was that call when all you had to do was run out the clock?"
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:29am ET"we should of been blitzing the whole game. blitzing to stop the run and the pass. chower said it at halftime on tv as well. alot of other talking heads have said it as well, but when bill chower says it mr mangini, i know your wrong"
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:31am ET"dont know why this stubborn attitude and refusal to make in game adjustments!"
Maryann Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:44am ET"Ugly win but we'll take it. Was at the game yesterday. Shawn Ellis's play was right in front of me and I can tell you. The whole team was stunned that the Bills threw and the rest was organized chaos that ended in a TD. Next time we may not be so lucky!!!"
Frank Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:47am ET"Gee I wonder if Mangini plans on calling out Coles this week. Let's see 2 more drops and one right in the gut he drops for an INT that changes the momentum of the game. Again the defense continues to slide into the abyss. Poor tackling shows the lack of effort being put forth by the players clearly Mangini has created turmoil there and the players are loudly and clearly rebelling in their play"
Major Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:49am ET"Why? Why? Why does Leon Washington get 1 touch when we know he is a play maker on offense as well as ST. Does Mangini have an issue with him? If we learn anything by the end of he season, it will be GIVE LEON THE ROCK and get rid of Sutton. He makes a potential pro bowlers look average with his bland schemes. Bring in Crennel."
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:52am ET"Mangin, take a cue from jauron and admit your making mistakes, and goodness sakes fix them!"
blinka Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:00am ET"fljetfan, your absolutely right that stubborness is why the defense cannot rush well, puts good players out of position,(Vilma, Robertson, Thomas, Gholston).Vilma's leading the saints in tackles. The Jets cannot run the 3-4. Don't know the reason. But the results are what they are. Randy, who calls the defensive plays? "
Randy Lange Said:
"blinka, Bob Sutton calls the defensive plays."
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:14am ET"A few things 1 Favres 1st int hit Coles in both hands he has to catch that & the 2nd 1 he got hit in the head as he was throwing the ball 2 Our tackling was garbage Lynch looked like Jim Brown he was breaking tackles all day we already know we can not cover well & we can not rush the passer cause Sutton refuses to blitz but now we are getting ran on which was our strength WE HAVE TO FIX THAT NOW"
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:24am ET"I now the game was ugly but this week I will give them the benefit of the doubt cause any time you play a team in your division throw everything out the window anything can happen the teams know each other well & do not like each other. "
bigEd Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:32am ET"You talk about expecting to win the game all you want...bottom line is you didn't play nor coach to win the game you got incredibly lucky!"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:32am ET"Hey Fans have to ask a question from most of your blogs I hear it over & over what I've been saying all season .....Except the Mangini groupies of course .. WE all seem to know what's wrong with the defence how is it possible Mangini & sutton don't ...& if they do & didn't fix it at this very critical part of the season tells me only 1 thing not capable or don't care to.. Either way not good"
Ira Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:38am ET"So according to Cimini's article today the defensive players are frustrated and are trying to all get on the same page. Well they have all this week and a long flight to Seatle to air things out. I for one think this gift vs the Bills will light a fire under the entire team and they will play a great game vs the Seahawks."
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:45am ET"LOL sorry oldrogue your right but boy that was still funny made my night"
Anthony Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:45am ET"One thing I must say is the jets showed emotion to fight off what could have ended there season. I think they need to dig even deeper this week and hope we can get the W. Good Game Jets hope to see you continue this streak"
David Reiner Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:59am ET"This win felt like a loss to me. After the Tennessee game I was thinking we had a shot at the number 2 seed. Now we'll be lucky just to make the playoffs. Mangini if you're listening, we need to find a pass rush, even if it means rushing at least 5. The 3 and 4 man fronts aren't gettin' it done! It's now or never. GO JETS!!! PLEASE!!! We can't lose another game to a sub-par team(Seattle)"
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 10:06am ET"The momentum swung in the game not because of the coles DROP/PICK! The defense didnt have to let em march down the field did it? Spotted a 14-3 lead and your tellin me this D cant make a play to bail out coles against the buffal-no-O Bills. By the way, the Sutton must go logic is a joke. If we had an offensive minded HC maybe, but our HC has a defensive backround. The buck stops there!"
Joe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 10:15am ET"How the heck can you only give the ball to Washington 63 times and give Jones the ball 263 times??? All the other teams with a 1-2 punch SPLIT the carries 50/50 (i.e. Carolina). What is wrong with Mangini on this? Has Leon not proved himself to be a gamebreaker? Is Mangini blind? You keep your best offensive player on the BENCH??"
Russell Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 10:33am ET"The Jets won the game, that's all that counts. Now it's off to Seattle. Offensively, the Jets should continue their aggressive play calling, even after an interception, and defensively, the Jets need to do a better job of shedding the blockers to stop the run and pressure the quarterback. Special teams also need to play better and stop committing penalties. This week, just beat Seattle."
Ed Slutzky Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 10:57am ET"If the last offensive series is not an example of Mangini playing like a loser, I don't know what is. Can you imagine Parcells not looking to score, not to mention actually getting a first down?"
PJ Guthy Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:16am ET"Randy - PLEASE tell me why Sutton goes into prevent mode on just about every defensive play when the Jets have the lead? It's NOT working! I'd rather get burned on a blitz then sit back and watch every 2nd-string QB pick the Jets apart. I'd rather play from behind like Sunday so the Jets get aggressive. Problems - Leon, catch the punt and run! D--blitz! Eric, run the ball and play fake more!"
jet jeff Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:17am ET"we are so lucky that buffalo has as bone- headed a play caller as we do!!!!"
John LaPorte Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:20am ET"Mangini MUST fire Sutton NOW and take over the defense. Do something. We got a lucky break yesterday and they don't happen everyday. Mangini benches Gholston for lack of production. He needs to bench Sutton for incompetence, and not after the season, TODAY!"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:43am ET"Hey Randy,Tell Mangini he should leave for Seattle tonight!"
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:45am ET"pretty amazing when the jets blitz QB'S panic example yesterday miricle why are'nt we rushing these QB'S no pressure all day to throw i just dont get it. "
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:48am ET"Don't blame Sutton,Mangini is the coach,a Defensive coach at that!If we are watching the game and see what's wrong how can Mangini not see it.Sutton is Mangini's puppet and he does whatever Mangini tells him to do.On that Jackson run.Sutton had his guys in position.If Mangini had his team up for the game someone would,ve made a tackle.And why is Jenkins never on the field?And why is Franks there?"
jet jeff Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:55am ET"look how the pats and dolphins handle these teams that we cant , patriots have all these injuries but are clobbering teams JUST GREAT COACHING"
Josh Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:57am ET"It appears we have more good players then we are seeing on the field: Gholston deserves a chance at DE move him around and find a mismatch, Clowney was the most successful receiver in pre-season, now we finaly put him out there??? Neon Leon is the most elusive player in the game, 1 carry 47 yrds 1Td. Favre's being mis-used obviously i want to see better pass play calling, 4 wide plus kelller/leon."
Rob Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:58am ET"Mangini has to get the ball more to Washington. This guy is a huge asset for the team and it seems like everytime the Jets need a big play he comes through. He's tough and gritty and hard to tackle. They should use him more on screens or split the carries with Jones. Keep the other teams' defense guessing all day."
RichieRich Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 11:59am ET"It was a WIN. Congrats to Jets, Fans & Coaching staff. Now what to do moving forward. The defense had some plays and redeemed themselves a little but they looked horrible out there. The Bills looked like they were playing down hill, and I mean down a steep hill. The one blitz caused a turnover and changed game. One question for Sutton: How many times have we been burned by blitz? NOT enough."
Oscar Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:02pm ET"I'm way off topic here, but Hey Randy, am I the only one that noticed that in 5 games with the Oakland Raiders Justin Miller already has 2 Kickoff Returns for TDs..? If he becomes one of the greatest Kickoff returners Jets will feel very very dumb by letting him go and keeping 2 Kickers or even D.Coleman."
Randy Lange Said:
"Oscar, you are not the only one who's noticed that Justin Miller has taken two to the house for the Raiders."
Ira Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:02pm ET"The Bills scored 17 pts off of big plays. McGee's INT,Posluszny's INT and Parrish's PR all set up Bills scores. The Jets must clean this up so they can finish the season strong. A lot of fans with good reason are all over the Jets. All i know is that at 9-5 with 2 games to go the AFC East Title is there for them to win. So Jets go out and take care of business. Play HARD, SMART and FINISH STRONG."
Pete Rosato Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:02pm ET"Who cares what Bill Parcells would do? Did he take the Jets to the Super Bowl...um no! What is wrong with you folks!! The Jets have gone from 4-12 to the top of the AFC East with two games to play...REJOICE!!! Seattle here we come!"
sal Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:12pm ET"all teams go thru these these slumps ask the gmen. trick is not to peak to soon, which the jets did but that wasnt long enough to consider peaking,they went away from what worked, other teams are doing the ball controll short pass game NE. Thing is Farve and this team does it best. Theyll be back"
scjoe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:16pm ET"Randy, can you give Eric a message at his next presser? Please tell him to take a couple of hours this week and watch tape of the Steeler 3-4 defense. Watch how their OLBs get pressure AND play coverage. Is their talent on D really that much better then ours? I think not! On a wishful note, if Arizona can somehow find a way to beat NE, this west coast trip will not even matter for us. It will come down to the Miami game."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:16pm ET"Fans are killing the D and rightfully so for not fighting and getting tougher when they needed to but how come the offense is getting a pass here? Both of Favre's INTs were costly (even thought the 1st wasnt his fault) and the play calling was bizarre again. We kept giving the Bills chances to score with poor execution on offense and a rare bad ST's day. Game should have been over in the 1st half"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:22pm ET"Give credit to Buffalo they played hard.Ira is right you take ANY win. Frank Mangini "dodged"a bullet, so lets not bury him, there is still life left in that body.All of you crazy fans that say fire Sutton,Shotty or Mangini give it a rest, nobody is getting fired until after the season if then.We are 9-5 & control our fate, yes we have problems that may not be solved this year, but we are alive."
Sam Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:31pm ET"Each week it is something different with this JETS team. This week it's the Defense that can't TACKLE and bring down the guy with the football. What is MANGINI's speech going to say this week? Mangini will say, we have to correct these MISTAKES and LEARN from them! Until next week, when a whole NEW set of MISTAKES will happen for MANGINI to correct and speak about."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:32pm ET"Couple of points from this game....Where has Big Kris Jenkins gone? His play has alot to do with our struggles on D recently. Favre has got to realize that punting is not a bad thing sometimes. Is it me or has Leon forgotten he can fair catch some of these punts recently? I love him but a fair catch could save us 10-15 yrds...Nice to see Devito making some plays. OL is really good. Revis is a star"
Rob Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:36pm ET"Great to get a 'W' no matter how we got it. Yet another embarrassing performance and only handful of plays had pass rush, which came from 3 guys...no blitz packages at all. But win is a win...and we are still on top, so thats great. GO JETS!! Bob Sutton, watch some GIANTS TAPES!"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:41pm ET"The TD after the Parrish return,Sutton had his guys in Position.B.Thomas was right there.If he was playing with any intensity he would of knocked that ball away or even intercepted it."
jarocknroll Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:44pm ET"it is so frustrating watching a reactionary defensive scheme. we actually have a talented defensive backfield, but opposing quarterbacks are getting way too comfortable with our anemic 4 man rush. pass defense starts at the line. please BLITZ more, good things happen when we do."
DE Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 12:58pm ET"this is unrelated to the article but i read in a few articles that people thought that favre didnt play all that well. i thought that he played pretty well other than that second interception that he just threw up for grabs. he made a bunch of real good hard throws that were on target and completed for big gains. he still has something left."
Jim Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:10pm ET"The Jets have to learn how to deal with adversity better...after that freak int , when Coles hit the ball up in the air..they kind of started feeling sorry for themselves and went in a funk.."
sal Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:28pm ET"while im at it look at Phil,Dallas, and now Tampa cant stop the run, all the last three weeks prove, is thatthis team isnt immune, cant count ealier losses, cause we had them playin the Gmen in the superbowl. Its the only way they can look at it and get it done"
Kori Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:42pm ET"Favre is awesome. Even at 39 he still has a lot more to offer than most QB's in the league. I think the team as a whole has a lot of good talent, they just need to play more consistently. Go JETS!"
richard Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:44pm ET"On 3rd & 2 o4 4th & 1 can we run somewhere besides the middle where the stack is & we NO CHANCE except to get bouinced BACK, STUFFED EVERY TIME ? Off-tackle MIGHT work on 2nd & 5 but ..come on. We have to get the ist downs!!"
Sindrew Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:44pm ET"Randy, you think Mangini deserves credit? Even the CBS announcers were talking about how calm Mangini was during Lynch's 4-yard TD push with the entire defense wrapped around him. They said any other coach would be throwing their headset. Mangini? Chews his gum like he's disinterested."
Troy Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:48pm ET"Man its funny,when the Pats or Colts or Pitt. wins a game on some luck the anaylst (espn,nfl netwk etc.)its because they willed their way or the leadership wouldn't let them lose or the coach is a genius,but when its the Jets its all about what was given to us or how bad the other team played ,nobody wants to give credit to Elam for still playing hard or even our lame D coord for finally continue"
Sindrew Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:48pm ET"I've asked this before and still haven't seen an answer. Why isn't Brett throwing downfield and more touchdowns? If he can throw 6 against Arizona he should be throwing 2-4 every game. Who has shut him down?"
Troy Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 1:54pm ET"cont.. making the right play call at that time. All im hearing is how they have no chance of winning the east,this league is so unpredictable except for the bunch of know it all morons espn rolls out every monday who back pedal more than our corners do everytime one of there so called Locks go wrong. We didnt look good winning but neither did Miami who's already being called the afc east champion?"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:08pm ET"DE, Favre didn't play well after the first quarter, he had a 60 QB rating for the game.I don't want to pick on him because we won.Our problem is this soft zone D, with no pass rush. Did I mention we're still alive@ 9-5."
Troy Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:12pm ET"One last comment: after reading all these post and this mornings ny area paper columns and the fan feedback from those,please stop blaming the secondary for the lack of pass D ,its completly an element of not getting to the QB,it doesnt matter who it is at QB if you have 6-7 sec to throw you can drop all 11 players into coverage ,you cant cover for ever,DB's not bad when pressure is applied,SHUTUP"
Oscar Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:12pm ET"Hey Randy, Thanks for responding to my last comment, but I want to know your opinion on the release of Justin Miller and how they never gave him a chance to redeem himself. Leon Washington might be our future back and I don't think he will be our long term kick returner if so. What do you think?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Since you asked, Oscar, I think the Jets did what was in the best interests of the organization and of the player in releasing Miller. Neither of us knows exactly what chances the Jets gave Miller to "redeem himself." And Leon Washington is one of the most exciting players in the NFL at present. "
blinka Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:14pm ET"Ira, when the jets rush three, do they ever do it with Pace and Thomas. I know I have been harping on this but to me the reason for their poor pass rush is Pace and Thomas in pass coverage as often as they are. Uncle Joe, you proved my point"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:16pm ET"Drew let me Answer your Question again CAUSE THE OFFENCE GAVE US 11 POINT LEAD IN 1st-- 5 MINS OF GAME & THE DEFENCE GAVE IT AWAY IN JUST ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME Does that clear it up for you ?"
davetharave Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:18pm ET"I said it 4 weeks ago after the Patriots game . . we nearly lost that one because of the prevent. Hey Sutton - "Get off the prevent defense !!" The only thing it prevents is victories . . . stay aggressive, bring pressure, blitz, sack, WIN !"
Row Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:32pm ET"I just watched Miller's youtube video's, shame on Mangini for being stubborn and releasing a great player. (for Ty law) I find that important because the guy has 10 more years of football in him. As for the D, poor tackling is killing us. Drills do not fix this, must scrimmage at 100%. What happened to the 2nd team running the opposing team's scheme's? Schotty is obviously ruining the offense."
mark Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 2:55pm ET"As usual Leon has to save our butts, why not more plays designed for him, screen passes, anything. And does anyone know how tackle anymore below the waist, I'd start benching guys if they can't wrap up low, pathetic. We have alot of talent on this team use it. Get Clowney in there he was having a great preseason, cut that special teams player who keeps holding on Leon' runs"
Greg from Albany Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 3:08pm ET"Some good points today... I have to agree with several posters. The Jets played poorly enough to lose that game. However, I also have to agree that if this were NE, analysts would be talking about how "gritty" they are and about how they "never give up." A win is a win. We're 9 and 5. Let's worry about Seattle."
wayne Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 3:10pm ET"Brett Favre has no receiver that can get free downfield(maybe Clowney).But he had to wait for a guy that's contributed directly to 2 losses to get injured. Elam would have been on the sideline had Eric Smith not gotten hurt. The coach don't even know what he's got on his roster....HOW MANY NUTS CAN A BLIND SQUIRREL FIND???"
Stephen Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 3:12pm ET"You know what i don't get. If we can beat the pats and the titans how are we losing to the broncos and 49ers. We barely beat buffalo. How are we going to beat Miami if it come down to that im worried. Were falling apart."
Stephen Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 3:17pm ET"If the jets play like they did yesterday idk who's going to win the division. Rand who do you think will?"
Randy Lange Said:
"You know me, Stephen. One game at a time, just like the players. But I'm pulling hard for the Jets."
jak, 19 wk jet fan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 3:22pm ET"the seatlle game will pit favre against his old sprbwl coach holmgrin. jets should decimate this team,but this is the nfl. hope we can do it...all the miami talk makes me puke. kc 31 miami 20. yes being pinned twice behind our own 5yd line was unfortunate,but thankfully ball wasnt turned over to the bills anywhere deep ."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 3:31pm ET"I would expect nothing but a silly answer from you Ex Jet...The Favre/Coles INT led to the score being 14-10...POOR punt coverage gave up a 60 yrd return that became 17-14. As bad as the defense played a INT and ST's did lead to those 2 scores after we took the lead. Again I stated the D played poorly but the offense did nothing after 14-3 (besides Leon's run) to win the game. "
Drew Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 3:35pm ET"Row... The Jets were not going to resign Miller and even though he is a good returner he cannot cover anyone at CB. He is the Raider 4th or 5th CB. Believe me I am sure there are 8 guys we could have cut besides Miller but having him on this team would mean zero to our failures or success this year..... I cannot disagree on the tackling or your B-Schott complaints though."
CHEPS13 Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:03pm ET"Good win "but"whats up with the tackeling it seems like the players are always so busy going for the strip that they forget to make the tackle!Plese fix it guys..Get Clowney more involved Shotty keep giving TJ the ball it starts with him Leon your awsome!!!!!!!!!!"
Stephen Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:06pm ET"Randy, do you think if the Jets don't win there division they can still make the wild card?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Yes, Stephen, it would require help in the division and from Baltimore or Indianapolis, but the Jets could also reach the postseason as a wild card."
jet jeff Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:10pm ET"dolphins and patriots have beaten oakland, 49ers , seahawks , we must beat seattle, and they are playing good but are a weak team pennington for m.v.p."
Robert Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:14pm ET"Incredible how no pressure was put on the Bills QB. Was this a conscious decision on the part of the coaching staff? I just don't get it. With a young QB who has been fumbling along in prior games, why not pressure him into submission? They just sat back and watched him throw all over the field. On the 5 game roll, the defense was much more aggressive, and that comes from coaching...Why change?"
JetsFanInMaine Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:22pm ET"The past month or so I see everyone is saying Eric needs to stop chewing gum. I recon that he was chewing gum during the 5 game win streak. O well have you ever thought he might be a chain smoker . Get over the gum chewing"
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:40pm ET"say what you will but facts are facts bills were held to single field goals in the previous 2 gms but looked super against the jets,a bad call by juron not to run the ball outside 2min saved the jets season, lynch ran all over us and why they chose that play was a blessing. sutton needs seriously to be let go and mangini the door as well they are killing the spirit of this team JETS ALL THE WAY"
davetharave Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:43pm ET"You would think with this many fans weighing in about the utter futility of the prevent defense that the coaching staff would immediately listen to us and change their strategy. How much more proof do they need ? (ha ha) Tell you what, I think the Miami game is going to be WAR. Who would have thought it would be such a critical game at the start of the season ? NYJ-Miami games are classic."
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:47pm ET" lucky is not good yesterday's win not good ,jets are not good why because the coaching is not good, yeah the blls laid it on us some say but common man they cant let teams run and throw all over us this defense has gone from the talk of the town to the worst in the league in just 3 weeks what the hell is that BAD COACHING IS WHAT THAT IS PLAIN AND SIMPLE BUT GOOD LUCK IN SEATTLE BRING THE WIN"
draz Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:52pm ET"Very simple: 1) Farve is done 2) Coaching is the problem 3) The Jets peeked too soon and now it will be too late to recover in time. Finally, You do not draft at 6th overall for a guy that doesn't fit the 34 defense and then put him inactive this late in the season. With that pick someone should been playing and contributing by now. "
msmelo Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 5:03pm ET"For all of you JETS fans who might be a little tired of Brett's INT's. Be happy your team is where they are. His old team THE PACKERS are toast. They're 5-9 and were eliminated from ANY hopes of being in the playoffs. Though I must say I'm not surprised. There's no leadership at all."
Joe S Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 5:08pm ET"3d down play calling is atrocious. in the 2nd or 3d quater,Jet's ball around the 50 and they try to run a fake screen draw?the defensive line bit but they were still too slow to get out to the reciever putting them in perfect postion to make the tackle. how can a team of this caliber not have a few surefire plays to get 3 to 4 yards? I'm interested to hear what the vets really think of this staff?"
Rich Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 5:09pm ET"ok while it's clear that we got an early Christmas present from the Bills some good things happended yesterday, like Coles and Jerricho being more involved in the offense however, Leon Washington needs more touches and the Defense needs to rush four All The Time !!!!! ...if we do not get more pressure we wil not matke the playoffs!!!!!"
cjames Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 6:18pm ET"Well folks, Thank god this is Brett's last year I just wish they would have drafted Colt Brennan who wound up on the skins. I hope this is Clemmens is last year Id rather see Ratliff start. Brett does bring some intangibles here like a winning mentality. But that is overshadowed by a losing coaching staff and a horrible GM. We would have 2 more wins if Chad was throwing the ball. I hate to say it."
JetinDallas Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 7:19pm ET"I never hear any analyst say that the Jets had a "disguised coverage." It actually has to be DESIGNED. The Jets don't blitze because most blitzes are DESIGNED plays. Are you getting my drift here? I believe the Jets would love to blitz more....... they just don't know how."
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 7:32pm ET"cjames, we'll see the squid the last game and after that game chad will be done. hes been a nice story but you can only go so far with chad. stop the squid run game which i have faith they will in that game and you'll see a different chad. farve wont lose that game, he knows he has to validate his being here. its seattle im worried about"
duaine Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 8:21pm ET"Matt Cassel is available next season lets get him.Thank u Bret.Please mr Woody lets get a HC thats wants to be involved on the sideline with the players.I will not subscribe for the NFL ticket season because I cannot waste my money to see a team FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!Please make a change ASAP.We need coaching staff changes ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:21pm ET"cjames, Chad would not be able to take the hits that Fvare has taken he would be out for the year & we would not have won any more games with him you dont know what you are talking about we would have lost to the Cards, the Pats & the Titans. Chad landed in the perfect place for him Miami where he does not have to deal with the elements he could not throw in New York with the winds hear look at "
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 9:26pm ET"8 homes games at Rams, Cards, Bills (Canada), all 3 domes & at Pats & Ravens in September still nice out name 1 bad weather game Chad has played in all year ? He has not played in 1 well 12/28 8:15 pm it is going to be bad in the meadowlands & he will be throwing 10 yard ducks & you will remeber why we let him go "
knucklehead Said:
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 10:59pm ET"it is like an inexperienced docile general that has his hands on some great weapons but doesnt know how to use them. is it possible for the jets to ever have a coach or coaches that actually get fired up once in a while and fire the players up with some screaming and emotion. if nobody told you nfl games are wars not on the job teaching seminars. teaching is for training camp. ATTACK THE NOW!!!!!!"
Sindrew Said:
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 12:32am ET"Leave Brett alone. He had worse stats 2 years ago and came back the following year with the best of his career. He needs weapons and the handcuffs removed."
HazyDavy Said:
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 10:32am ET"I'm likin' the fact that Miami and NE play early and we play late this week. I'm hoping at least NE loses. This way if the Jets lose and Miami wins It'll come down to 1 game, and I agree Chad will have problems throwing at the Meadowlands in late december. I also hope we can put some pressure on him and stop their running game."
JR Said:
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 12:01pm ET"WOULD SOMEBODY TELL ME WHICH TEAM IS SHOWING UP ON SUNDAY THIS TIME? The defense quit or lost drive. The offense could go either way. TJ and Leon thanks for playing but you guys can not do it alone. Where did the team go that whipped Tenn. and NE? C'mon JETS...YOU CAN DO IT. Please find out how we can get IHEDIGBO off the field for the rest of the season! Have a great game"
Dan Said:
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 5:04pm ET"once again, this team has no identity!!! Offensively, they are a good running and screen team, but the WR's dont get the ball. Defensively, they dont exist. Every QB has marched right down the field on this D this year. WK1 - Chad ripped us and had a shot to win on a last second pass. WK2- Cassell is an all star. WK3-Phillip Rivers ripped us. WK4- Warner engineers a near comeback?!?!?!?!?!"
Row Said:
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 5:37pm ET"Cotchery has separation, but has been underthrown in recent times. Here is how you blitz, bring an OLB, DE and an ILB to the weak side. Anyone seen the Ravens do this with precision? I want to see B. Smith get some screens with a WR block. Favre must play better. Seattle is a 70/30 pass happy team with a firecracker of a back in Julius Jones, he can have a break out game vs anyone. Go Jets"
mikeod Said:
Wed, December 17, 2008 - 6:17am ET"ineffective offense?, embarrassing defensive?, clueless special teams?, lousy coaching? lucky wins? yea but,.......7 pro bowlers, HOF QB, solid placekicker, division leader facing 3-11 opponent. bottom line ..jets must win "
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kevin Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 7:43pm ET"i like the fact that we won this game, but why do we not keep running the ball? they didnt stop it all game and we were killin it with jones and washington. no reason to stop and go the way we did. should have rolled this team, just like the last 2 games. another thing, why no feild goal to make it a 7 point game? please explain ercis thinking on this one. thank god we won"
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