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12/07 — Where did the Jets of the five-game winning streak go? They need to make an appearance here in Candlestick park quickly. The defense stops the Niners on their opening drive of the second half, but on the punt, Ahmad Carroll is called for an illegal block in the back, starting the Jets at their 8. And three Favre passes net 9 yards and a Reggie Hodges punt.
Frank Gore, who scored the touchdown in the last minute of the first half, was carted off the field with a left ankle injury and it's announced that his return is questionable.
The Niners have fourth-and-a-foot just shy of their 44. Coach Mike Singletary purses his lips, quickly ponders his options. He decides to go for it.
And Kris Jenkins makes it easy. As the defense is lining up against the Niners' heavy package, Jenkins jumps offsides. First down the easy way.
But then San Francisco gets sloppy. Shaun Hill drops back and looks for Isaac Bruce. But he never sees David Bowens in the underneath coverage. Bowens snaps up the interception and returns it to the SF-45. Maybe this is the spark the Green & White need.
Apparently it is. The offense needs only four plays to go 45 yards to the tying touchdown. It starts with a Thomas Jones 9-yard burst, moves into the red zone on a Favre needle-threader of 15 yards to TE Chris Baker, and concludes with TJ getting off right tackle, cutting crisply back and going untouched until he hits the goal line at the end of his 17-yard run. It's 14-all with 5½ minutes left in the third.
Jones ties Curtis Martin's franchise record of 12 rushing TDs in a season set n 2004 and equals the mark of 14 total TDs in a season held by WRs Art Powell (1960) and Don Maynard (1965) and RB Emerson Boozer (1972). Congrats, TJ.
However, the Niners come right back. They get a key automatic first down when Kris Jenkins is called for defensive holding. But the Jets get a break when a touchdown pass from Hill to TE Delanie Walker is wiped out by holding on T Joe Staley.
But the Jets give back when Dwight Lowery, blitzing off the Niners' right side, misses a sack of Hill, who then completes an 11-yarder to Jason Hill to set up third-and-9. And it's Hill to a wide open Bruce for 13 yards to first-and-10 at the Jets 14 as the quarter comes to an end.
Fourth Quarter
Hill throws three passes to open the final 15 minutes but all are off the mark, either intentionally or accidentally, so Joe Nedney come's on to give the 49ers back the lead at 17-14 with a 32-yard field goal.
Leon Washington comes right back with a dazzling, weaving 99-yard kickoff return for a TD, but the play is wiped out by a holding call at the Jets 40 on James Ihedigbo. It's good that James came back from his first-half injury, but the hold is not good.
Then Chris Baker is called for a hold on the first play from scrimmage, and just like that the Jets are going backward. They're at their 20, then they're at their 18 on a 1-yard loss on a screen pass to Jones.
Then Hodges hits a line-drive punt (3.2-second hang) that Arnza Battle returns to his 49. The Jets need to suck it up, on defense now and then with another scoring drive. There's still 12:40 left on the clock, but that will loom larger and larger if the Green & White don't stop this possession.
The defense can't post that third-and-3 stop as Jerry Hill springs loose on an out, Lowery not close in coverage, for 13 yards. And the Niners move into short field goal range. Then another third-down coversion from (Shaun) Hill to (Jason) Hill, with Darrelle Revis missing the tackle, and it's first-and-goal at the 3. The Jets need a stand.
They don't get it. Shaun Hill takes a quick backpedal drop and finds Bryant Johnson loose in the end zone. The 5'11" Lowery can only swing and miss on the high throw to the 6'3" Johnson, who gathers it in for what could be a backbreaking TD. The Nedney PAT makes the score 49ers 24, Jets 14 with 6:05 to play.
You can tell the Jets are pressing. Nedney's kickoff hugs the right sideline, where Brad Smith picks it up. As he works his way up against heavy traffic, he laterals backward over Washington's head. Only Leon's calm recovery and squirminess at the goal line keeps this play from being a safety. On the other hand, the Jets offense starts out from its 1-yard line.
On second down, Favre heaves a pass downfield that goes well past Jerricho Cotchery and the Niners deep defenders. On third down he's sacked at his 8. Hodges punts, Battle fair-catches at midfield and this one is almost over as the clock heads past four mintues to play.
Washington takes a punt and tries to find room but it's hard to locate. He's shoved out of bounds at the Jets 22 with 2:28 to go. Brad Smith catches a crossing pattern for 7 yards on second down but pays when, pursued from behind by S Michael Lewis, he's crushed from in front by MLB Patrick Willis. Smith bounces up but then, returning to the huddle, drops to his knees and has to be tended to before he leaves the field on his own.
Favre keeps hope alive with a fourth-and-3 completion to TE Dustin Keller for 9 yards that takes this to the two-minute warning. The Jets have only two timeouts left and are still 62 yards away from a touchdown they need to set up the field goal they need for a fantastic finish.
Then Favre steps up, airs out for Laveranues Coles. CB Walt Harris rides Coles off of the pass and intercepts at the SF-7. But wait. Flag is down.
It's against Coles for offensive pass interference, pulling Harris down as he made the pick.
Right now there are 44 seconds left. It's all over but the triple zeroes on the clock.
Eric Allen will have the game story shortly, I'll file my locker room Radar entry when the team flight returns to New Jersey around 3 a.m., and Tim Carlson will have a feature for the morning cycle.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (141)Pranit Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:26pm ET"Mercy please....Get Rid of SUTTON...Jets defense looks ugly...worse every week...Mangini stop chewing gum on the sideline.."
jtgreeny Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:26pm ET"wow huge holding call on that return for a touchdown.. but why arent I suprised? We always find a way to lose..."
shly Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:29pm ET"Brett we know you can do it .... Wind Lake Wisconsin"
Upstate Mike Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:32pm ET"San Fran has had wide open receivers all game long. Absolutely terrible, disgraceful defense again this week. Completely out hustled by the niners on both sides of the ball. Thats 2 weeks in a row. Yeah the score is still close, but this is just BAD football from a team that 2 weeks ago was looking like a playoff team."
jak 19 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:32pm ET"are we blitzing at all?"
Bad D Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:35pm ET"what a horrible job by this defense. after all the talk about the pass rush by the media this week youd think the jets would would presure the qb. but no i hate to say it but its THE SAME OLD JETS!!!!!!"
jak 19 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:36pm ET"49ers just scored 24-14 ,this guys gonna throw for 300yrds on us .we could always let our recievers play defense ,and secondary play offense"
Why am I a Jet fan? Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:41pm ET"Even the great Brett Favre can't stop the Jets from taking their usual DDS - Decemeber downward spiral. Why can't we cover anymore?"
Anonymous Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:42pm ET"This team continues to break my heart! "
sal Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:42pm ET"thter shot they will be lucky to end up 500, Miami, NE have a better a better shot then this team, look for a Manning vs. Manning Superbowl. This was the best shot this team had in years and they blew it. shotty and sutton and have to go. at least"
BC Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:42pm ET"After a second putrid outing in a row, 8 and 8 looks like a real possibility. Shame on me for letting myself believe this team was any good. I should know better after 30 plus years of crap football."
Jason Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:43pm ET"At this point, I feel like these Jets are a bigger disappointment than last year's. Last year, we at least knew we were a losing team... This year, we've seen what they're capable of doing against good teams, and to underperform 2 weeks in a row like this... when we really NEED to win, when it counts... that just proves that THESE Jets have no will, no character, no heart, and definitely no fight"
Jeremy Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:45pm ET"Are you serious--this team isn't going anywhere. Don't deserve to be in the playoffs after losing to OAK, DEN, SF. Nice West Coast trip. I can't believe this coaching staff could fall this flat and lose a game like this! Shotty & Sutton need to be taken out back and you know what. Can't wait to here Mangini's press conference about how he liked this and liked that. Total BS DECLINED: ABBREVIATED OBSCENITY (BS)"
jtgreeny Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:45pm ET"this is embarrising and a huge disapointment..The defense looks lost...i seen lowery with blown coverage couple times ...like all season long..I know its a west coast game but thats no excuse..I guess we werent as good as i thought we were..and our O line is getting blown up..i give up randy"
Jeremy Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:47pm ET"What a JOKE! I'm done watching this team. What a let down. SUTTON & SHOTTY need to be fired after this one. You've got to be kiding me! Mangini can't get this team to show up after a horrible lose to Den you make a road trip to SF and get utterly dominated by a horrible SF team with a sub par QB. So disgusted right now! "
JETFOREAL Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:48pm ET" J-O-K-E :: JETS ARE A JOKE THEY ARE DONE "
epk Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:49pm ET"Wow, The NYJ. What can I say. Where is the secondry??? where is the emotion? The defensive play calling is completely off point. Rushing 3 all game!! niners Qb has had all day to pick apart the secondary. ADJUST and bring at least a safety! They did the same last week. No adjustment there either. Will the jets ever get over the hump!!! Show some emotion!!!!"
Tony C Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:49pm ET"We are who we thought we were! The same old Jets"
anthony Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:53pm ET"Fire the offensive coordinator please he is the weak link of the offense."
rich Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:55pm ET"where did the offense go what happen to the line no protection and why not use thomas jones more"
jak 19 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:58pm ET"so favre gets an int ,on a desperate last minute pass[presumingly]. [play by play nfl com ,cant c it] how do we get in these predicaments.?someones gotta review film and throw out whats not working.i dont know if we were in 3 man prevent most of game ,or what but if we were, we might as well start blitzing half of the time as were losing anyway."
jet jeff Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:59pm ET"these last two weeks were the most awful football ever, i thought this officiating crew stunk all year and today was no exception , holding call on kick return was horrible but it would not have mattered anyways. o- line stunk today also "
Stunna Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:59pm ET"JETS vs GIANTS superbowl... put that on hold a lil while coz miami is bringing the heat and this jets team has run out of gas, offense is under par, defense cant stop pass...Keller, TJ, Coles, Washington are playmakers and not used at all these guys were on fire then the next week the gameplan shifts esp when its against a team that is to their strong points, coaches r gr8 but too many misques "
lc Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:59pm ET"What in the world? Where is the team that defeated the Titans and looked good doing it. This week with the 49ers is awful. It appears that no attempt to make adjustments defensively happened at half time. A child could have caught the ball from the 49ers QB as far off as the defenders played. It looked as though they had no game plan going in against this team.....a 4-8 team,!"
Bob Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:00pm ET"I now realize that the Jets offensive line is probably the worst in the league. The off season acquisitions for this line were a complete waste as even the FORTYNINER DEFENSE CAN PLOW RIGHT THROUGH THEM. and talk about the most inconsistent defense ever. 4th against the run in the league? You sure don't show it in the most important month of the football season. Brett Farve isn't that good sorry"
FIRE SHOTTY & SUTTON Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:01pm ET"If the JETS want to keep any of their fans they better do some major house cleaning this off season--I can't believe this garbage. Sutton can't stop the Raiders and 49ers. Shotty can't win against 2 of the worst Defensive teams in the league. This team is pitiful. I'm looking forward to Mangini's press conference. JETS showed no heart and deserve to lose that game!"
jet jeff Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:01pm ET"horrible, pathetic, disgusting , out coached, embarssing , , randy am I leaving anything out???? "
Bill Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:02pm ET"Super Bowl here we come!! Yeah right not in this lifetime. Will be lucky to be 8-8. Time to fire Manstoopidus and get a real HC of the NYJ. Bill Cowher are you listening? Need a new QB because no way Favre comes back to this mess. Cut Rhodes, the most overrated player in the NFL "
JETFOREAL Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:04pm ET"wow the patriots just took the lead as well as the dolphins winning more great news for the new york jokes lol cant wait to hear the excuses all of you come up with from defending the loser mangini to the brett favre factor i really cant wait"
james Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:06pm ET"how can you loose from the sorry teans like the 49ers the worst team in the nfl next to the lions. I think they lost it. I am sorry but I give up on these loosers. They have no hope. They are done!!!! good luck next year."
Dan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:07pm ET" Where is the defense? No pressure, and they can't get a team off the field. See ya Bob Sutton, Romeo is coming! Also, what happened to the passing game? None of the receivers can break away from their defender to make a big play. David Clowney can help solve this problem. We saw what Clowney can do with his breakaway speed in the preseason. Mangini, wake up and finally play Clowney!"
Howard Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:07pm ET"wheres the passion ,this team plays with no passion the 9ers play with fire they run to the ball they cover recievers they tackle,we just stand around waiting for the play to come to us"
Jason Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:07pm ET"Randy, please no spin this week. The team was 1-10 on third down conversions. The 49'ers completed almost all of theirs. The Jets forced 5 fumbles, but only recovered 1... that's not capitalizing. I'm sick of Mangini preaching consistency... it is time to SEE it on the field and not just talk the talk. There is no player of the week and there are no positives from this game. The Jets were BAD."
Drew Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:08pm ET"No defending this loss. Gameplan was horrible. Defense couldnt get off the field and everybody played badly. i will give TJ and Leon a pass but overall a putrid showing. Feels much worse than last week. Of course the Phins and Pats made things more interesting...."
jak 19 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:09pm ET"3 way tie for first ,i moan as i take off my jets green,getting ready for sleep.its a sad night ,the car broke down, the dog froze to death,my leprosys in stage 3, my arm fell off, and big al has been awol for a week.and tomorrow is monday.bur worst of all jets r losing games they should win."
Anonymous Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:10pm ET"Can a team be anymore disappointing than the Jets.. So much for the Jets being For real. Only thing there good at is disappointing everyone.. but i don't know why you guys are complaining.. you should be used to it by now.. i am.. "
Joe Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:10pm ET"is there a way i can start a pettition to fire bob sutton?"
OP Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:12pm ET"T. Jones, L. Washington and Faneca are the only Jets who truly have any desire or heart.... Mangini's lack of fire and leadership will ensure that the jets go nowhere in the playoffs"
CB in SC Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:12pm ET"There is no way to explain this team's 8-5 record. How can this team walk all over Tennessee and look like a high school team trying to play Pro ball in its next two games? Coaches and players...that's it. The Jet secondary has been a weak spot all year."
GangGreen08 Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:13pm ET"from 8-3 to 8-5, i wouldnt be suprised if we go 8-8, its a sad sad day when you lose to the 49ers, where did the jets go when they played the Titans, Chad and the fins might even take the division. Sad sad day today and next week as well."
jet jeff Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:13pm ET"BC I feel the same way shame on me for thinking january was going to be exciting and brett favre looked very irritated on the sidelines watching this defense , it looks like its startin to get to him after watching this mess for 13 weeks, he also looks frustrated that his receivers cant run , he throws the ball out there and they just watch it, they dont even try for it"
Anthony Trad Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:14pm ET"It aint over yet. Still 3 more games. Still tied for first in the division. Don't knock em till its all said and done. If they won 5 in a row they can surely win three in a row."
pk Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:14pm ET"I think if the Jets blow this season I will become a Bills fan because let's face it they really are the only football team in New York!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Jason Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:15pm ET"Randy, does Eric Mangini still have special guest speakers come to speak to the team early in the week to get them pumped up? I thought that really worked in 2006 and that the players seemed to respond. The 2006 definitely had character and a no-quit attitude... I don't think we can say the same about this team."
Luis From Olathe KS Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:16pm ET"I know now what I want for Christmas; a new coaching staff for the New York Jets, with accessories like real headsets! play books with good plays! AND! please no more blah, blah, blah to the fans..."
Chris K Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:16pm ET"Good teams always find a way to win, especially against weaker opponents. What does this loss tell us? This one stings more than the Raiders one. I'm shocked & speechles, but shouldn't be, this has been a recurring nightmarish them for over 30 years. "
Eli Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:17pm ET"Wow these posts are harsh. I see what they mean about New York fans. Too bad since you guys have Brett I am classified as a Jets fan. They are going to win their division. Not go 8-8. Brett Favre can get it done. Look at the packers this year without him and look at them last year with them. Here in Madison WI the newspapers are talking about how the packers made a mistake."
Jean Muckian Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:20pm ET"When Bret Favre played with the Packers, we loved him no matter what the score. He is magic to watch. The New York Jets are very lucky to have him as their quarter back, and we are very sad that Green Bay let him go. Your record is STILL better than ours (5 and 8). "
mark Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:21pm ET"thanks jets!!! for always b eing the same!!"
H. Stephens Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:21pm ET"I am not sure what was worse today. The defense that time and time and time again let short passes to the left and right go for 10 to 15 yards a play or the offense who could not get first downs and sustain any drives. 10 carries for Jones? Terrible! Less than 150 yds passing when we are down the whole game? Where was the Jets WR's today. Coles/Cotchery 2 catches for 15 yds? Unexcusable!"
Troy in Houston Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:21pm ET"If this isn't the game that gets this entire coaching staff FIRED I can no longer support this freaking nightmare of a football team ,why is it so predictable every year they show flashes of greatness just to overnight turn into a bad team,the've done this some many times ,you just knew it was coming ,funny how a season can go so bad so fast ,only the JETS can accomplish this feat over and over DECLINED: vulgarity (freaking)"
gb10 Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:21pm ET"jets d is weak, offense has no imagination , receivers cant run routes, "
Dan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:24pm ET" Where is the defense? No pressure, and they can't get a team off the field. See ya Bob Sutton, Romeo is coming! Also, what happened to the passing game? None of the receivers can break away from their defender to make a big play. David Clowney can help solve this problem. We saw what Clowney can do with his breakaway speed in the preseason. Mangini, wake up and finally play Clowney!"
Da Nocker Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:25pm ET"Pathetic & out coached...I think ownership should do what's best for the team and that is letting go Eric Mangini and the rest of the coaching staff and start in a new direction....We all know that Bret Farve is not coming back next season and we need a quarterback that can run the ball (scramble)..If the jets lose next week to buffalo then kiss the playoffs goodbye....I am very disappointed.."
jtgreeny Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:25pm ET"My heart is broken in pieces..LOWERY GET A CLUE!!! and law is getting burnt bad..this team just made singeltary look like a football genius..shotty needs to go..i cant believe this guy was offered a coaching job last year.maybe im in the wrong buisness..RAndy if I send you my resume will you give it to MR T..thanks"
Don Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:27pm ET""Sutton its third and five on there forty what do you want to do?" mangini "Uh lets drop back into prevent, rush 3, and let hill try and pick though our insanly good secondary, its worked all year." FIRE SUTTON AND SHOTTY"
sal Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:28pm ET"Maybe the clean hit on smith will wake this team up, they got what they deseved, a punch in the mouth, no pass rush, no secondary gholstons a waste of a roster spot, both lines need to grow some hair on their chest "
darrel Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:28pm ET"Mangini and Schotty should be fired there is no reason this team should have lost these games other than poor coaching. Heartbroken once again."
Rich Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:30pm ET"am a huge jets fan always will be...but they just always seem to dissapoint. Terrible performance by the offense and defense. WAY TO BE JETS now we have to basically win out in order to get a playoff spot!!!! REMEMBER JUST TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE WERE 8-3 everyone was talking about us being one of the best in the NFL. now everyone sees the truth.... we arent anything special still.... so painful."
Tate Hadachek Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:31pm ET""Fire him! Man i'm a Dolphins fan and I still say fire him. I like Brett Farve and he deserves better than this offensive cordinator. Randy i'm pretty sure you agree with me, you should anyway." P.S GO FINS!!!!"
Big Ed Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:32pm ET"Pathetic, in all phases. Looks like a bunch of confused guys without any discipline and LEADERSHIP!"
scjoe Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:34pm ET"Out played and out coached by an inferior team for the second week in a row, just horrible! We tried to model ourselvs after NE, well, NE don't beat themself, they do not lose to inferior teams no matter how far across country they travel, even with so many starters out. THAT, is the difference between them and us!"
Da Nocker Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:37pm ET"It's time for ownership to start looking for a new coaching staff...Eric Mangini has let the organization & it's fans down...and we all know that Bret Farve is not coming back next season so still the jets need to find someone not only with arm strenght but can also scramble (Run the Ball)...How can we lose to a team that was 4 & 8 record.....Very disappointed of how the jets played..."
CFU Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:42pm ET"WOW this is deja-vu the team is playing exactly how they played last week but just worst. Only 10 carries to T.Jones. I really don't know what to say at this point. I guess I can go on and on about what we did wrong but it's not going to help. Instead I will think happy thoughts and imagine what it might have been if we went to the P.O and won the SB. Mangine and the coaches have no clue."
Rod Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:44pm ET"there r so many things wrong. the O was horrible, WR are not running good routs, not getting open, giving up on routs, not holding on to the ball. LC,JC,TJ,Keller and even Leon all did nothing. the D had no pass rush, i cant belive the lack of pass rush, the secondary got picked apart, y do we move away from what weve done so good. and once again the coaching was horrible. "
Anonymous Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:46pm ET"I'm jumping ship over to the Detroit Lions, that way my expectations won't be too high."
JETLAW Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:47pm ET"Out coached once again! No creativity on this passive defense. Bob Sutton & Mangini have to go! It's a shame because this team has talent. No more excuses from Mangini about game planning etc. He is just a bad coach! You can blame the prevent defensive mantality for a team who once had the division in their hands to a team that will be out of the playoffs! Period! "
CFU Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:49pm ET"Call me a fake fan or whatever I've been a Jet fan since early 90's. So I know all about the bad luck gang-green has every single season. Call me a quiter but to be honest I quit watching the game after the 1st half. Players played with no heart and coaches don't have a clue. Mangini chewing that gum on the sideline with that dumb frown really ticks me off. Please would someone wake this team up. "
kimosabe Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:53pm ET"Just when you thought you've seen their worse..."
Mike Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:58pm ET"What happened to this team? It's like we decided that after we beat the Titans, all we need to do is show up....horribly uninspired football the last two weeks."
dade county jets fan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 7:58pm ET"Terrible terrible terrible defense. Please nobody say Revis and Rhodes for the Pro Bowl. This is the worst secondary i have ever seen. They cant cover anybody. If the Jets do make the playoffs they better hope they dont have to play a team like the colts because they might as well forfeit if that happens."
razmataz Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:00pm ET"I want to hear the optimists paint this one.I said after the win against Tenn., we owe apology to Mangini, but this was rock bottom today. we are a seriously flawed team, and do not have the ability to adjust at 1/2time. OL/DL have regressed, DB's are terrible, 3 holding calls on KO's?, Brett looks lost?, we cant convert 3rd down and cant stop the other team on 3rd, 4th down, how far we fell!"
bart marsala Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:00pm ET"been a jet fan for 30yrs.they tease and fold. cant blame west coast. NE won. You are a pro team no excuse. Look at time of possession and penalties.Mangini doesnt motivate game in game out. With the money Johnson laid out, He should be furious. Give Cowher a blank check .How ironic if Pennington knocks them out."
John G Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:01pm ET"Lost a J-E-T-S Fan!!!! I am going to take a Page from the JETS Players. I'm going to Q-U-I-T!! QUIT,QUIT,QUIT!!! They were Out coached out played. Yes the Jets are still in it, But the Jets let Three games they should have won slipped away. All of them were Oakland, Denver and now San Fran. "
blinka Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:02pm ET"I don't understand your complaints. It's obvious to me. Rush 3 guys against an NFL offensive line and your mother-in-law can make a completion. Been complaining about this all season. No one cares. "
THE NY FOOTBALL JETS Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:18pm ET"Terrible job. We lost this season now... no way to come back. We are in a 3 way divisional tie, we will drop 5 straight to end the year 8-8. Brett will retire and Clemens takes over the offense, and here goes another decade of maybe next year... Why dont we just fire Sutton, he is a TERRIBLE defensive coordinator for a 3-4 defense, and I just can't understand what is wrong with our offense either"
Viveca Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:24pm ET"Good team are beginning to step up, but the Jets as usual are spiraling downwards. Miserable, listless performance. From the owner on down this team is emotionless. Wouldn't be surprised if we missed the playoff again. Just as well ,we're going nowhere! We were outcoached again!Same old Jets!!"
terrance Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:25pm ET"wow. nothing short of embarrassing losing to the niners. almost as bad as losing to the raiders. as for post season hopes, the defense needs to man up. special teams also needs to be more aggressive. offense, well what to say, when brett only throws for 132 yards, you probly need to change something"
rocco Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:25pm ET"Its all about the defense what hapened to the pass rush? The offense is still inconsistent but they tied the score at 14 and what does the defense do they allowed SF to drive the ball down the field for a field goal killing all the momentum.PS SF beat us but referreing last coupe of weeks havent help."
RobR Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:26pm ET"I have said it for a long time, this is an extremely weak coaching staff. Every week opposing coaches figure out what to do against this team and this staff makes no adjustments and looks unprepared. How many times does an opposing receiver need to catch a ball with no one near him before you fix it? When a team comes out this flat and ineffective it's a coaching breakdown. They look clueless"
pk Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:28pm ET"Every year it seems to be the same old thing, they always find a new way to mess up the season, I think if they blow this season I am going to become Bills fan, let's face it they are the only REAL New York football team!!!!!!!!!"
shane Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:32pm ET"i have never seen a bunch of losers like these jets, shaun king? the 49ers? officials didnt help but neither did the d. whats wrong with these retards?looks like 8 and 8. same old fn jets "
Brandon Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:35pm ET"Thomas Jones averaged five yards per carry, yet he was only given ten carries. The Niners fumbled five times and recovered four of them. Apparently the Jets coaching staff and the players slept through their flight and forgot to wake up for the game! "
fljetfan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:41pm ET"im speechless, lookin for a shoulder to cry on. we cant give up. like they say, its never as bad as it seems and never as good. we hang our hat on our schedule. still favors us. we have to believe we beat buff. seat. is not very good and then it would be showtime.an im sorry, penny,s not outplayin farve in that one. ILL NEVER! EVER! GIVE UP "
Mark Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:42pm ET"Poor at best, I believe the coaching is responsable for not getting this team up for games like this ( S.F. & Oakland ). Veterans have let this team down like Jnkins and Farve. They must improve or the season will be lost to Miami or N.E."
Jim Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:44pm ET"I'm glad Ellis was not suspended for having drugs in his possession. He was such a force on defense today! Way to go Captain. What a joke he and the entire defense demonstrated today. Who was that 49er QB? They made him look like John Brodie in his prime. Sutton should have been let go last year. BRUTAL!"
Dan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:47pm ET" Where is the defense? No pressure, and they can't get a team off the field. See ya Bob Sutton, Romeo is coming! Also, what happened to the passing game? None of the receivers can break away from their defender to make a big play. David Clowney can help solve this problem. We saw what Clowney can do with his breakaway speed in the preseason. Mangini, wake up and finally play Clowney!"
RobR Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:48pm ET"Wretched, unimaginative football. It's December, leading the division, and this team can't get execute and play inspired ball? There is no bigger crime when it comes to playing. And that is an indictment of the coaching staff. Both coordinators look clueless and Mangini just shakes his head and fumes quietly while the formerly 1-15 Dolphin s are playing inspired. Embarrassing."
fljetfan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:51pm ET"we need kerry to show up. i mentioned it early in the season. hes made no signifigant plys this yr. i dont know why he gets a pass cause he sure cant defend any. he looks slow and soft. we need someone to pop these recievers in the mouth so there not runnin free all over the lot. these next 2 teams on the sch. have nothin to play for we need to make sure they know it!!!!"
fljetfan Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:06pm ET"last but certainly not least, LEON DID WHAT LEON DOES and he sparked this team! he is our playmaker, unfortunately the zebras took it away from him. lifelong nfl fan and im so tired of officials deciding outcomes. last weeks blown call, now this one, but ya gotta move on i guess. pains me, deep down, it really hurts man! Luv ya LEON"
Drew Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:09pm ET"I would kindly ask all Packer/Jets to not tell us Jet fans were lucky to have Favre or love the team no matter what... These last 2 weeks have totally erased any magical feeling we had after 2 huge wins prior. We are now in a damn dog fight to even make the playoffs after dreaming about a 2 seed.....To all of the usual haters.....the forum is yours. There is now defending what I saw today. "
deathbyjets Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:11pm ET"just 2 weeks ago everyone was dancing on the grave of jets collapses, unfortunately the demon "SAME OLD JETS" rises from the thrid circle of hell to feed on the high expectations of jets fans. Once the feeding frenzy of delusion was at its peak (first round byes, home field, running the table) it was time for soj to show itself. Selfish players (Lc,Se) sorry brett you dont deserve this."
wayne Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:19pm ET"Imagine at the end of the season if Chad Pennington is standing between the Jets and a playoff spot. I'm not a Chad fan, but it would serve Jets right if he'd beat them....This division was served up on a silver platter and the Jest are choking on it. The job is too big for Mr. Mangini. Once again,the Brad Smith thing still is'nt working!!!!!!"
BaronN Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:20pm ET"Pass defense was terrible all year (remember Kurt Warner throwing 450+ yards, or Matt Cassel 400; of course when you win you don't look it that way). In fact Jets are second to worst in defending the pass in the whole league! Bottom line: If we can win the last 3 games, we win the division. If Arizona beats New England, winning home vs. Bills and Dolphins would be enough."
Xavion Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:24pm ET"The D was terrible The SF wr were open all game wide open and what happened to the quick drop passes that we were soo effective with and what the hell happened to the blitzing. I cant believe Lowery missed that Sack. And that was a horrible call on the Leon Run back if the coverage person spins that is not considered a penalty. I see why Hoculi got hate mail."
Pranit Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:32pm ET"Dan, the jets can't wait until next yr to get crennel or anybdy else...they have to fire SUTTON before the next game else this team won't make the playoffs in all likelyhood...SanDiego fired their DC, and the jets badle need a spark...there is no next yr for this team...."
JETSFAN Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:37pm ET"Two words to sum up all the posts- WE STINK Coach- 137 passing yards out of 20 dink passes especially when our defense can't stop anyone today? I can't believe what I am seeing. Coach- you successfully and solely destroyed our season. "
bart Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:51pm ET"all i want for xmas is cowher. need coach with emotion"
FAN Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:02pm ET"This guy gets out coached regularly. Why does no one ever take him to task. He was lost out there today after the first snap just as he was last week. The problem with this team is coaching and lack of ability to adjust their game plan."
joe dooley Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:18pm ET"So, you guys shooting for 8-8 this year?"
Ray Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:22pm ET"I think the hardest part of watching this team is their total inability to stop ANY team on 3rd down. We make the most pedestrian receivers look like the second coming of Jerry Rice. Need a first down? Just plug in your 7th string fullback, and no one will cover him out of the backfield. 3rd and goal, don't even give a thought to F. Gore coming out of the backfield."
Hate2BAquitter Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:23pm ET"Just about had it! I'm tired of being played like a fish by this team every other season! It's no wonder they've only won the division twice since the merger, and both times were in the last ten years!!! If they are lucky they can sneak into the playoffs on a wildcard, but what's the point they'll just go one and done!!! "
Ray Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:29pm ET"Oh and one other thing, I love JC but isn't it about time he learns NOT to slow up on a deep route?!! Isn't that like the 4th time he's pulled up on a play? He isn't playing with CP anymore, Favre can throw it a little deeper than that. Other than that I think we got em right where we want em!!!"
JP Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:30pm ET"The Jets make another bad team look like a SB champ. D was horrible - King had all day to throw; no pass rush - SF was driving at will. TJ once again played with fire but our receivers were never open. D-Brick kept getting beat and Favre was forced to scramble - against the Niners! The O strategy is gone - and Cotchery always gives up his routes! Jets need to win all games to get to the playoffs. "
Jey Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:39pm ET"Coach needs some more emotion. He needs to fire the team up. Not enough pressure. Where is the pressure??"
ed duignam Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:42pm ET"the two best victories in the last 5 years followed by the 2 worst!...i am sitting here in south florida where i get the up and coming FISH for free....me thinks DIRECTV is gonna be gettin my cancellation....maybe ill go get a bag of weed and forget my problems!"
carl Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:49pm ET"Hey Randy , Whats up here? Hottest to coldest like that ?They look so predicable out there.!Where's the emotion?Did the coaches even fly over? This west coast game bull is an excuse! Coach Singletary looks like the real thing , Just like he Played! Mangini?Mr. Johnson please do whats right for your Jet fans and grab Coach Singletary if you can?Hey Mangini lets try some different formations?Wing t?"
Jay Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 10:54pm ET"Well if/when we choke away the playoffs, perhaps we clean house...Cowher? I'm with you fellas calling for Clowney, we can't find him a spot? Drop Coles, move everyone else up the depth chart. He quit on this team weeks ago. He only cares about his stats- not winning- because his priority has always been his contract(s). 28 years as a fan, I'm as close to quitting as ever. I feel sick/tired."
Brian Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 11:24pm ET"Where the heck is Clowney? We need another deep threat to help lesson the burdeon on everyone and make Jones more effective. This is a Coaches loss. No motivation, no cohesiveness, no nothing. Randy, no sugarcoating this one ... this was downright ugly!"
Joel Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 11:26pm ET"Anyone who thinks the offensive struggles are Brett Favre's fault is sorely mistaken. He is slinging it very well still and has led the Jets to an 8-5 record. I like LC and J-Co, but they do not consistently get open or get much separation from their defenders. This makes Favre's job very difficult. he's never had a hall of fame receiver, but Driver and Jennings are faster and more physical."
jet jeff Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 11:46pm ET"randy, please answer this question on what you would do, NOT THE JETS , 4TH & 2 at the oppositions 38 ???? well my answer is go for it everytime even if you down it at the 1 , if you dont make the first ,usually a couple of plays and they are right where you would have been anyways, this coaching staff needs changes SOON!!! "
JP Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 11:53pm ET"I do not know if this is true, but I heard that at Postgame David Harris was asked what adjustments the D made at halftime and his response was "We didn't make any halftime adjustments,,,They got us." If this turns out to be real than there need to be changes immediately. Either the coaching staff starts adjusting to other teams or get them out. The players are down and it shows."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 11:54pm ET"Hey Mangini groupies how you like him now ? Him & his staff need to go I will some up the game like this 1st & 20 or over on 4 occasions & got 30 yards or more NP.. Any questions crew ? The team has taken on mangini personality lackluster uninspired boring no Imagination Like I been saying all year he can't adjust our DBS were running around like chickens without heads ARE U KIDDING ME"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 12:03am ET"This was the most disgusting display of football to date with this team constantly getting burnt on the same play time after time .. AGAIN 3 MAN RUSH I'm going to puke.. This staff can't win in the pee wee league that's a fact if they don't fire this coaching staff at seasons end I am finished that's it we will not make the playoffs hey crew get a real life cause this 1 your living is in orlando"
sal Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 12:14am ET"put shotenheimer on the sideline, he dosnt deserve or good enough to be sitting in the booth. Eliis killed the rep of the team. o- line horrible, d-line& ellis horrible, secondary horrble, rhodes, reevis, lowery ,elam horrible. no heart or will to win. Team ,characture =chumps The consistancy speech is old,&worn out"
mike ex jet fan Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 12:14am ET"Hope every1 sees what I've been saying all year... losing last week was a nightmare then lose this game . I can't even describe the disdain I have for this team & Org. from top to bottom.. But lets hear the excuses again this week from the regulars they will have them for sure... Again we will be the jokes of the NFL this week I am so sick can't stand it anymore No more excuses Randy"
mike ex jet fan Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 12:31am ET"I've heard of not being able to walk & chew gum at the same time think it gos not being able to coach & chew gum at the same time don't you ? Well we left the door wide open for the finns & NE how sad is that ... Rookie QB & Rookie head coach going to knock us out of playoffs noodle arm & all "
mike ex jet fan Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 1:02am ET"OK lets hear the speech again give them credit they played g8 they stopped us all day .. What they should be saying the truth we were out coached & out played by 4-8 team with a rookie head coach AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN"
Northern Wisconsin Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 1:41am ET"The bright side: The Jets are 1st in the three-way tie for first place in the division at 8-5 (note that the Pack is 5-8). The dark side: The Jets got lazy or over-confident or complacent. Where are the Jets who beat the Titans, Pats, Miami and Arizona? The talent is there, but now it'll be tough: Win 3 more straight or pack your bags. You can do it, Jets! Go get 'em, Brett! Let's have some fun!!!"
dan Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 3:28am ET"maybe mangina aint the genious every one thought he was time to send him back to his boyfriend bellidick he sucks as a coach i dont even think he would make a good waterboy hey i know lets hire ritchie cotite. what the f@!$% when are we gonna get a winning seasoned head coach who has some balls not some one who was under another guy and cant win on his own. DECLINED: IDIOT, NAMECALLING, ABBREVIATED OBSCENITY, VULGARITY"
jak 19 wk jet fan Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 4:17am ET"well miami and jets play each others of todays opponents next week . lets hope we kill the bills and the 49ers rip the fish"
jak 19 wk jet fan Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 5:07am ET"WELL ..IM PUTTING IN THE TAPE OF THE TITANS GAME .its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago.its 2 weeks ago"
gee Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 6:17am ET"Until we get a pass defense we will not win again. We cannot stop the pass and it is hurting us drastically, we cannot get to the quaterback anymore it is time to switch our game plan. bad play calling, penalties, miscues on offense and defense what are our coaches doing. In the last two weeks how many catches have Coles & Cotchery had."
pk Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 7:27am ET"remember the great chant from years ago JOE MUST GO, well heres another one Bye Bye Eric!!! Bye Bye Eric!!!!!!!!"
steve in indy Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 7:30am ET"It"ll be alright! They will win the last 3 games BUT remember only one team wins the whole thing so you just have to be realistic and enjoy the journey. These last 2 weeks were quite sickening but you just have to keep believing. I do agree that Mangini should stop chewing that gum because he looks silly."
Carol from Wisconsin Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 8:10am ET"Ouch! Where did the team that beat the Titans go???? Come on guys, step it up and you can do it. Don't give up now. Yikes!!!"
mikeod Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 8:43am ET"this was certainly "complimentary' football....both side of the ball stunk. this was the second game in a row where the coverage team was no where to be found as the opponent fumbles a kick..blown opportunity run to the hills! the tuna, chad and the fish take the division...unbelievable!"
viveca Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 8:45am ET"Our recievers can't get any seperation-Clowney, the only one with speed is held out. Watching the last two games it seems that we're right back to last season. Pushed around and outcoached. Instead of building a team we tried to buy one. That never works! We drafted sixth and except for Keller, what good did that do us? Gholston is a giant bust. We could have had Rivers, Flacco, etc.! "
RichieRich Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 10:14am ET"Now I see why the Jets fans can be so pessimistic. This team wins your heart over then rips it out and tears it to shreds. The defense, or lack thereof was atrocious. I am so embarrassed for thinking the Jets had a chance to make the big game. Does anyone believe that a defensive coaching change will make a difference, or is this a case of players just not giving 100%?"
viveca Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 10:34am ET"What about this love affair with Brad Smith.? He should never handle the ball. He's not a good qb, or reciever and not fast enough to be a slash player. He's strictly a ST player. Get Clowney in there, the rest are possession recievers that don't scare anybody! In that group Stuckey is the best!"
Dublin Jet Niall Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 10:36am ET"Ah Mike, didn't take long for you to revert to your previous nom de plume! It would appear I was lucky I couldn't actually see the game and had to follow it via play-by-play on NFL.com. It sounded pretty awful accross the board and I won't even attempt to defend it. But one request buddy-could you at least attempt proper punctuation in your posts?(I'll let you off with the spelling) Cheers!"
Rodger Crank Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 1:06pm ET"The AFC's leading rusher only got 10 carries. maybe if you give him 20 to 30 touches in the next 3 games the jets make the playoffs."
Rudy Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 1:46pm ET"Randy I don't envy you as you have to defend the ownerships position in their hirings of Tannenbaum and Mangini however it is high time that Woody step up to the plate and fire Tannenbaum & Mangini & bring Marty Shottenheimer as GM & Bill Cowher as HC. The Bill Bellichick disciple experiment didn't work, admit your mistakes and move on otherwise expect a Jet fan revolt."
jets2good Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 2:42pm ET"i do not understand this coaching staff at all.one the defensive cor. doesn't know what he is doing a good 3-4 defense isn't just rushing 3 look at the steelers the have alot of blitz packages with alot of now name d-backs that get it done. stop trying to be like new england.please.blitz these QB's who on earth is shaun hill.you tell me. then u didnt bring in brett to short pass,u could of keep pen"
Frank Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 3:32pm ET"BTW Mikey Mc ,Favre winner of superbowls, multiple records holder and future hall of famer I will give the benefit of the doubt where there is no obvious offense. Mangini with a 3 year and thus far losing track record with very healthy teams does not get the benefit of the doubt. It's time fish or cut bait there are 3 games left and the sharks are swimming under the boat with blood in the water."
Row Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 4:49pm ET"Rogers-Cromartie returns one for a TD in almost pro bowl form, and our 6th pick VG is playing special teams. I am tired of watching Coles bail on routes. Brad Smith wants to win, play B. Smith! As far as Favre goes, he should have been pulled with this performance. We get Law and get burnt. Good coaches coach, no more excuses win or fire! Someone is accountable."
gjp Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 4:53pm ET"like i said about the coaching, why is chad throwing bombs and doing great with miami, and now favre is in chads place doing nothing. it shows it was'nt chad but mangini's system. your taking a legend in brett and making him mediocre. time for a coaching change. woody talk to cowher."
Ray Said:
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 5:47pm ET"RichieRich, to answer your question, YES I do believe a change of the defensive coach WOULD HAVE made a difference if they had done it after last season like they should have. To do so now is closing the barn door after the horses got out."
David Burke Said:
Tue, December 9, 2008 - 3:33am ET"Brett Farve's performance thus far is nothing to talk about. His net yards per pass is far less than Chad Pennington's at Miami. He pads his stats with dump off passes to the backs instead of going vertical. The Jets might make the playoffs but Farve needs to wake up and throw to his receivers. Farve doesn't make my top ten history of Jets QB's . Get with the program Farve and open it up. Go Jets!"
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TJW Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 6:11pm ET"Watching King play pitch & catch against this Defense is sickening; SHAUN KING??? San Fran about to score again..1st & 20 blown AGAIN...someones job has to be on the line for this debacle..We play the Seahawks soon, I shudder to think what SENACA WALLACE will do....gonna be tied with Miami maybe New England after today, gonna have to win the division to make the playoffs..looking very very bad.."
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