Jets-49ers Means Harris (Maybe) and Willis
Published: Thu, December 4, 2008 - 1:44pm EDT
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Eric Mangini, David Harris, David Bowens, Flight Crew, Patrick Willis
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12/04 — For fans of young, hot inside linebackers, Sunday's Jets-Niners game was circled on their calendars when the schedules came out: David Harris vs. Patrick Willis.
Needless to say, the two won't be squaring off against each other, and with Harris still working through his groin injury, the two may or may not even be on the field together at Candlestick Park.
But last year the two were among the NFL's top rookies. Willis, San Francisco's MLB, was named Defensive Rookie of the Year after unofficially leading the league with 174 tackles. And Harris might've given the new Niner a run for his money in the award and honor areas since he had 93 of his 117 tackles and all five of his sacks in his eight starts in the second half of last season.
Harris, who has missed the last five games since suffering his injury in Game 8 vs. Kansas City, remains limited in practice and not available during locker room media availability. But head coach Eric Mangini, asked at today's news conference if "the Hitman" would be available for San Fran, said, "Yes, I'm pretty optimistic."
And for those who may have forgotten some of the finer details in the last month, Mangini gave a scouting report of his second-year inside 'backer.
"David's a very, very good young player," Mangini said. "He had an excellent rookie season and I thought he was doing a good job this year. He's stout against the run, more fluid than you think in the passing game, a good blitzer, very consistent in his performance. He has an excellent feel, too, in terms of blocking schemes and getting to the ball. All those things I think he does really well."
But the Jets, who traded up to take Harris in the second round, also did their homework on Willis, who went 11th overall to the Niners.
"Patrick has a great motor, he has great instincts, he’s very good at avoiding blockers, takes excellent angles with the football," Mangini said. "You could see it in college. He’s one of these guys that you turn on the game and there’s 15 or 20 tackles a game, and if he’s not making a tackle he’s causing a problem. He was really impressive on college tape. As you talk to people from Ole Miss, people that played with him, in terms of his mentality and his approach, it’s just all football. It has really transferred well."
I checked with David Bowens, who's been ably starting in Harris' place, to see if he had an opinion about Willis.
"Great nose for the ball," D-Bo said without hesitation. "We've watched tapes of other offenses when they've played the 49ers, and you definitely see No. 52 all over the place."
So the Jets offense will have to be at its crispest to keep 52 in red and gold off of Thomas Jones and Leon Washington. And Jets fans will be heartened if 52 in green and white is out there for the first time in a month and a half to help in the effort to keep Frank Gore and the Frisco offense in check.
Rain Riff
Mangini had a great perspective on questions for the third time this season about the physical and mental effects on players' boadies when they go from East Coast to West Coast to play a game.
"It doesn’t sneak up on us. We’re not heading on a safari or anything," he said. "It’s the West Coast. It’s three hours. I don’t see the big deal. It’s hot in Miami, we knew that going down in September. It was going to be cold in Green Bay a couple years ago when we went up there. What’s the big deal?
"As kids, you used to die to get outside in the rain and play football, and in the cold and the snow. It’s the same thing. Now it’s just a couple hours different, with a little extra sunlight."
Performing in the Precip
Speaking of rain, the New York Jets Flight Crew continues to be a featured unit on the weekly sportsillustrated.com slideshow featuring cheerleading squads around the NFL. Click here for four shots of the Flight Crew ignoring the inconveniences of Sunday's inclement weather with knockout individual and team performances during the Denver game.
Brick's Story of Heart
Eight Jets told their stories and fans can help turn one of them into the NFL's "Super Ad: Believe in Now" commercial. And one of the stories you may not have heard involves D'Brickashaw Ferguson's tale of heart.
Before Brick made it to the Jets, or to the University of Virginia, or to Freeport High School on Long Island, he had to make it off of a hospital bed as a child. In his story, Ferguson talks about his journey from open-heart surgery as a child to playing professional football.
Rookie TE Dustin Keller's story about how hard he pushed himself at this year's training camp so as not to show any weakness, is another Jets feature. Fans can visit the Jets section to also see the pieces on Ahmad Carroll, David Clowney, James Dearth, Vernon Gholston, James Ihedigbo and Wallace Wright.
Fans can vote on the 24 stories from AFC players on nfl.com/superad beginning today through Dec. 17. Four AFC stories, one from each division, will be selected to continue to the Championship Round, where they will compete against four videos from the NFC as well as one wildcard video.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (42)Ira Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:03pm EDT"Randy, It will be good to get harris back if he is ready. Bowens has done a great job filling in for him but it has hurt the pass rush. The last 5 games is when the lack of a pass rush as come up and not having Harris in there is part of it. I think that Bowens was more effective coming in on passing downs. It seemed that Pace,Thomas and Bowens were all getting to the QB then."
uncle joe Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:21pm EDT"Hey Randy,if we look back to last years Radars,did I have anything to do with that HitMan title?Shouldn't I get a free hat or something?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Maybe a free hit, uncle joe."
uncle joe Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:43pm EDT"Hey Drew,I respect and agree with 98% of the things you post and feel you are a Radar Allstar.I particually appreciate when you defend our coach as I too feel he is very good BUT,can I have your views on #56.After the way he chased after Cutler,he looked like my 68 year old father out there.Do you still think he needs more time to learn how to RUN!"
Tom Spicer Worlds Biggest Jet Fan Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:57pm EDT"The Bills are done IMO 2 games out with 4 to go they are saying Edwards is out this week & there final 4 games are vs Phins in Canada (some home game that is) @ Jets @ Den & vs Pats they could go 0 & 4. The Phins play a so called road game vs Bills vs 49ers west coast team flying cross country 4 a 1 oclock game @ KC than @ Jets they will win those 1st 3 games so there game vs us will have alot on "
MikeMc Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:58pm EDT"Doug the problem is Clowney doesn't play special teams & wallace Wright & Brad Smith are excellent gunners so why carry an extra reciever for 1-2 plays a game."
supercooljetfan Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 3:04pm EDT"every post someone always ask about clowney...hes always on the sidelines in street clothes healthy... for some reason they dont suit him up "
Ira Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 3:21pm EDT"MikeMc, So i came up with Jets 31 - Niners 17 ealier in the week and i will stick with it. This team has responded well for Eric after a bad loss. Like i wrote before in 06 theY blew out the Packers, come home and lose to the Bills then go on the road at beat Minny, Miami and come home and take care of the Raiders. I expect them to be nasty this week and get back on track. GO JETS!!!!! "
Drew Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 3:47pm EDT"Uncle Joe....The Cutler play brought me back my one fear with Gholsten at OSU. He uses his speed then almost slows up when near the ball carrier. He dosent run through the opponent. His instincts are not great and playing OLB hasnt help. The only good part of the Culter play was he at least diagnosed it correctly and didnt bite like he did ealrier in the game. Truth? He's been disappointing so far"
Drew Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 3:55pm EDT"Hey Doug....MikeMC took the words right out of my mouth. Wright and Smith are dominant on specials. Plus our offense has not really been a problem until the Denver game so Clowney's down field presence is not a priority. maybe we have to look at practice and how well he has hooked up with Favre. I would like to see get some snaps him but he is on the inactive list for a reason."
Tom Spicer # 1 Jet fan Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 4:02pm EDT"the point of my rambling is this I think the Phins will finish 10 & 6 & the Pats 11 & 5 the only way we win the AFC EAST is to win out"
wayne Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 4:32pm EDT"Looks like a panic move bringing back Harris when he hasn't even completed to full practice session. Mangini is a young coach with no creativity. Figure out a way to not have Bowens and Pace chasing receivers. You got enough DBs on the team, use one as a rover. Do something, but don't make panic. Clowney is fast. Other WRs are incapable of separation going deep. Young coach+no ideas= failure"
joe b Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 6:14pm EDT"Just saw an article on the Journal News blog that Shaun Ellis was arrested for Marijuana. If this is true I am sure he will get a 4 game suspension. Who should the Jets have play DE. Maybe D. Bowen and if Harris is ready have him back ay LB. If not is Ghoston ready to contribute full time ? "
jtgreeny Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 6:37pm EDT"hey randy any updates on ellis and his arrest?.HEs no jenkins but he plays a big role on that denfensive line."
Jakeberk Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 7:44pm EDT"In the absence of Harris, Eric Barton has been playing incredible. I do believe he leads the team in tackles, no? And why suit up Clowney to go down the field twice when our intermediate game has been taken to a new level with Keller. Cotchery might be a decent deep threat, if he could hold onto a ball on fourth down when it hits him in the worst spot, the hands!"
mat Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 7:55pm EDT"i think we should trade ghol to a team in need of a DE.we could maybe get a 4th rounder n if we giv up more,it wil make up for the 1st,or 2nd we lose because of the favre trade.here are players i like in college percy harvin-speed chris wells-all around ability ANY QB-wide range from pat whites speed to graham harrels power courtny greene-i think he would be a good sleeper to releive Abe at FS"
Drew Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 7:58pm EDT"It looks like Wayne is back on the hater train. I understand everyones frustrastion with the LB's covering TE's but thats what the 3-4 calls for. The Miami and NE LBS do it. Go ask Vrabel how he liked chasing Keller when we beat them 3 weeks ago. I agree we need to send Pace/BT more but he's panicing at 8-4 by playing Harris?? Bowens has played well. Your shots at Mangini are again juvenile"
Duaine Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 8:03pm EDT"Can we get some info on Clowney?????????"
Drew Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 8:13pm EDT"Just read the transcript of Jenkins finally speaking to the media after a few days of not talking. How do you not love this guy and not consider him a big leader on this team? I love the fact that he said he took some time to think about how the fans felt after riding a 5 game high and then crashing against Denver. I expect him to wreck havoc this Sunday."
Drew Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 8:20pm EDT"Just read the Ellis story. If this is true it is an amazing tale. He speeds past an unmarked car is pulled over...basically has no registration or insurnace and has an attitude then to top it off has marijuana in the car?? How can this be an accurate story but it was in the Journal News."
IAMAYAHOO Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 9:32pm EDT"this should be a great game... jets win though and keep this bandwagon tugging along!"
Willie G Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 11:29pm EDT"Hi Randy, this may have been addressed already but Vilma is playing quite good for NO. WHat were the terms of the trade, I know it was a conditional pick so where are we now and where can it go ? Thanks."
Randy Lange Said:
"Willie G, I don't have the terms of the trade. But I'm sure the reporting on the trade is available online."
Ray Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:47am EDT"According to the story on NFL.com if this is his first offense Ellis won't be suspended by the league. Not exactly the kind of distraction we need right now."
Carlito7 Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 4:17am EDT"Drew, I couldn't agree with you more, I thought I was the only one who noticed that, I was lived when I saw this play. I have been defending his sub par playing effort for the entire year, no longer. Gholsten play up too your abilities or go home we need the register spot."
Frank Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 9:24am EDT"I said it all preseason we should have traded Ellis the guy is overrated I never liked him. Pot, speeding and no insurance? Are you kidding me I want him off the team right now. Tangini if you had any credibility with your "we only want character guys" you would at the very least suspend him the rest of the year and then get rid of him. We don't need this distraction I want him off the team now!"
ScottinAfghanistan Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 10:52am EDT"I am extremely dissappointed in Ellis. He's always seemed like a stand-up guy. Makes me wonder if drugs had anything to do with the Ds performance last Sunday. Who was it that got the DWI a couple of years ago? Was it Ellis? Give Gholston some time. Remember people wanted to give up on Thomas for the first couple of years, too. We have Pace and Thomas, so we can take it slow with VG."
Drew Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:03am EDT"As overrated as Ellis might be Frank hes leading the team in sacks and has had a good year. Hes also been a good citizen since we drafted him. I agree and have critized him for his actions but to once again call out Mangini's creditbilty on this is absurd. It's his 1st offense and was more childish in his role than a major distraction. Tell me a coach that would do what your asking of Mangini??"
jak, 18 wk jet fan Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:47am EDT"drew and carlito . i too was mad at vg my first reaction was why did he veer off.but then i thought oh, he saw that cutler was throwing and cut off cutlers escape,for if it had been a pump fake and vg bit ,cutler could of ran round him on the sideline .vg knew he couldnt get there b4 ball was thrown cleanly.if this is same play ur talking about."
Hogan Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:59am EDT"spoken like a true rediculous conserative Frank. OH NO not marijuana, lock up the wife and kids. "
Drew Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 12:06pm EDT"I will use Coghlin as an example Frank since you like him so much. Burress had multiple problems before shooting himself and before ever being punished by suspension. Suspeneding Ellis for the remainder of the season would be a total overeraction, I can see maybe 1 game but an internal fine and corrective action laid out by the organizationis more likely."
Drew Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 12:10pm EDT"Scott...I believe it was A Jones who got the DWI. I dont believe he was suspended. Tangini has had very little problems with their players under their watch......until things get out of control I will let them handle the punishment........What I think the Jets need to understand is that NJ cops are Giants fans not the same as the ones patrolling the Long Island Expressway."
Rich29 Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 12:11pm EDT"one of the few guys I can agree with on just about everything he posts is Drew. Frank why would we take Ellis out for the rest of the year and then "get rid of him" because of his first offense. Take a deep breath slow down and realize yes it doesn' help us at all, but he didn't kill anyone."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 1:14pm EDT"Hogan, Frank is right on this one, its not that marijuana is a huge detriment to society, its the fact that its illegal. Tangini has preached character, character, character & if Ellis is retained past this season I would be disappointed.Drew you have to realize this guy is a captain, I agree its his first offense so don't suspend him or release him until after the season. We have to be consistant"
Willie G Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 1:20pm EDT"Hogan, you are asking for trouble, Frank will now kidnap you, take him to his gun friendly, animal unfriendly ranch in Texas and line you up for skeet shooting. Couldnt agree more, these guys should have used better judgment. I have more of a problem with his speeding and rude behavior than a J. Frank is a local boy but moved to Texas, must be the air down there. See G W Bush as a reference ;-) "
Ray Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 1:20pm EDT"Frank I don't think Ellis is overrated, I just think he is not really a 3-4 DE. We saw that last year and how much better he looks because of Jenkins being here. I don't think the Jets are going to even consider releasing him or suspending him. We are in a dog fight just to make the playoffs, if the league isn't suspending him we sure aren't."
Ray Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 1:36pm EDT"Hogan I believe the term was "pot". The big guy showing his age a little. Frank I believe the proper term may have been "weed"! However, some of the younger guys may be able to chime in here and school us old dudes on proper verbage."
angels/lakers1 Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:57pm EDT"weed will work also BUD,HERB,and GANJA.Is that why he didnt play much last week?Whats up with clowney?Favre looked bad last week,we are all able to have bad weeks.He should come back this week with a big game.We need ball control.and some D.jets win 24-17"
scjoe Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 3:13pm EDT"I know Harris had a fantastic rookie season last year, but he seemed to have dropped off a little in the games he did play this year, that was a surprise to me especially with the addition of Jenkins."
Hogan Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 4:27pm EDT"I am not saying its a good thing, just the reaction is to harsh."
Skylane5CC Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 8:21am EDT"I think the injury to Harris from pre season was worse than thought and carried into the season. I think the hitman is ready to hit and give the D a needed boost of fresh legs"
Brian Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 11:48pm EDT"Boys, we need to make a big statement this week and that is ..."The JETS are for Real" We know it, but if you listen to the sports announcers (so called experts), no-one is taking us too serious beyond the tri-state area. After we trample SF, I will be there to watch a Bison slaughter at the Meadowlands. Go JETS!!!"
Ray F Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 8:32pm EDT"Usually at this game we see red, white and blue because there are more Buffalo Fans than Jet fans. Jet season ticket holders don't sell your tickets this week but show up in Green to support your Team. "
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doug Said:
Thu, December 4, 2008 - 1:58pm EDT"What's up Randy?! Can you tell me what's going on with Clowney? He had a great pre-season and we don't have a deep threat on this team. Why isn't he a part of this offense? "
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