'We Didn't Play the Way We Should Play'
Published: Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:27pm EDT
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Eric Mangini, Bryan Thomas, Brett Favre, Dustin Keller, Kris Jenkins, Denver Broncos, Jay Cutler
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11/30 — This was a tough one to read. This was not a garden-variety Jets locker room after a home loss from recent seasons. This was a 34-17 home loss to Denver after two of the greatest road victories in franchise history. And it clearly stung all involved, none less than the head coach.
"I was really disappointed with the way we played today," Eric Mangini said at the start of his postgame news conference. "We've established a certain way to play football around here, a certain identity, and that was nothing close to that today."
He faulted the defense's tackling, the inconsistency in the running game, and the coaching. He didn't alibi the conditions, which were plainly bad from opening kickoff to final gun.
"It didn't seem to affect them very much," he said of the Broncos' play in the rain.
On the quality of the Jets' practices during the week of preparation for Denver, he said, "I think it could've been better. It should be better."
"I'm not really looking for a motivator or a silver lining here," Mangini said of the loss. "I'm looking for good football."
Mangini wasn't taking anything away from the Broncos. But he wasn't happy with his own team and it showed.
"I haven't gauged it," he said of his postgame emotion level. "I'm not comparing this to some other point where I was angry or upset. I felt that as a group, we didn't play the way we should play or where we need to play as we move forward through the season."
Mangini doesn't get publicly perturbed a lot. I asked a few players in the muted Meadowlands lockers if their coach was as intense in his postgame remarks to them as he was with the reporters, as intense as he'd ever been with them.
"I really can't compare how upset he'd been at other times," said rookie TE Dustin Keller. "But if he was, he'd have reason to be. This team, this offense has just been rolling up to this point, it's been playing really well. There's so much ability on this offense, so many different things we can do. To go out and not get this one is huge for us.
"Coach Mangini has really high expectations for us. We appreciate that. We expect him to."
For the defense, LB Bryan Thomas had a similar response.
"There's a lot he has to be upset with — we didn't play well," Thomas said. "The players, we're upset ourselves."
Like their coach, the Jets players gave all due credit to the visitors from the Rockies.
Of Broncos QB, Brett Favre said, "He was the better man tonight."
Of the Denver offense, Thomas said, "You've got to take your hats off to them. They did a really good job."
There was no disrespect at all in the Jets' room, as much as Denver WR Brandon Marshall tried to stir it up.
"We took it personal," said Marshall. "Ninety percent of the guys and coaches said what they're supposed to say about the Jets, but there were some things that rubbed us the wrong way. We heard that when we got here, we should just stay on the plane. It didn't help that the fans booed when some of our guys went down."
There wasn't a single Jet that said anything disrespectful about the Broncos before or after this game. Marshall's argument there might be with some ESPN pregame analysis. As for the booing, Jets fans may be notorious but they weren't booing the injuries; they were reacting to a run of Denver players getting injured as the Jets appeared to be trying to run their hurryup offense.
But as Mangini said of the injuries, "You'd have to talk to them about that. Any injury situation, I take it at face value."
And as Broncos boss Mike Shanahan said, "I was just hoping guys were temporarily hurt. I wasn't sure if there was anything serious or not. The elbow injury to [DT] Josh Shaw looks like it could be serious. When Dré Bly went out, I said, 'Holy cow, what do we have left?' But guys stepped up."
So this also was also not an issue that could be hung on the Jets. What was an issue was why the Green & White didn't give the Broncos as good a game as the Broncos gave them, and what they do about it?
Was this a case of overconfidence? As nose tackle Kris Jenkins told SNY's Steve Overmyer after the game, "I can't rule that out."
But other players didn't agree that they were full of themselves.
"It's tough anytime you lose like that at home," said RB Thomas Jones, who had another strong game — 108 rushing yards and two TDs at halftime, 138 yards for the game. "We didn't take care of what we needed to take care of today. So it's definitely frustrating. We have four weeks left. The guys on this team, we'll all regroup, watch film tomorrow, see some things we can correct, correct them, and get ready for the next game."
The next game is San Francisco, the third West Coast trip of this frequent-flyer season. The Jets have not won in two trips to the state of California. The Niners, meanwhile, are coming off of an impressive, defensive, cross-country 10-3 win at Buffalo today. The Jets are no longer coming off of a winning streak. They'll be trying to extend their road winning streak to four. But that is not what will be on their minds for their first non-victory Monday in six weeks.
"Right now we can't think about streaks," said Thomas. "What we need to do is think about San Francisco, going out there being prepared and executing the game plan and getting things straight. Right now is not the time to think about streaks."
Here are the six highest yardage figures by an opponent in a Jets home loss:
| Year | Opponent | Total Yards | Final Score |
| 1961 | vs. Houston | 573 | Oilers, 48-21 |
| 1963 | vs. San Diego | 528 | Chargers, 53-7 |
| 1984 | vs. Miami | 507 | Dolphins, 31-17 |
| 2002 | vs. Kansas City | 504 | Chiefs, 29-25 |
| 2008 | vs. Denver | 484 | Broncos, 34-17 |
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (99)Scooter Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:50pm EDT"One last thing. This is why I hated the Jets/Giants SB talk, touting "coach" for Coach of the week (he's .500 lifetime!), and all the Jets are best in AFC talk. Lets win some important games first before the coronation next time. I'm also disappointed at all the fans that stayed home today! WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU? It was a little bit of rain! Kudos to all of us that stuck it out today!!"
MR MAGOO Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:51pm EDT"I WONT MAKE ANY LAME EXCUSES FOR THIS LOSS,...PLAYERS DIDNT PLAY!! COACHES DIDNT COACH. THINGS ARE NOT LOST,...4 MORE GAMES. TIME TO REBOUND AND GET IT TOGETHER. I DO THINK THE NFL SHOULD SERIOUSLY LOOK AT INJURIES AND PURPOSELY SLOWING DOWN THE GAME. THE BRONCOS CANT EVEN DENY THAT. THAT WAS DIRTY AND WRONG"
Jeremy Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:57pm EDT"Granted the Players made some mistakes, but everyone who watches the JETS week in & week out--know's or is hopefully finally realizing that SUTTON is one of the worst D Coordinators in the league. The schemes and play calling are horrible. No pass rush, No Secondary-which is crazy considering Revis & Rhodes are Pro Bowlers? Consistenly give up 300+ passing yards. Completely outcoached again!"
gregg Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:59pm EDT"No way the Jets would win the next 5 regular season games and then 2 playoff games we had to get the loss out of the way, feel the pain of a loss and fix the exposed weakness of the team on both sides of the ball. If the coaching staff can get the Jets to overcome they will be ready to represent in the AFC Championship game... Looks like we will play at the Steelers then off to the Titans."
JP Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 11:00pm EDT"I too was skeptical about all of these Denver injuries - it seemed that they were very "convenient" in stopping the Jets No-huddle. As for the team, I still think we are in good shape. I like their attitudes after the loss. They were dissapointed but they are still a game a head in first and this can all go away with a win at SF. Then if we win out the rest of the way, we win the Division. "
Jeremy Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 11:02pm EDT"SHOTTY is no better than Sutton. How do you keep calling pass plays on 3 & 1 and again on 4 and 1. Trust your O Line, T Rich & TJ---ridiculous that you keep calling pass plays. 16 carries for 138 and TJ doesn't get the ball when you need 1 yard?? Are you serious?? Shotty deserves to get fired! 43 passes to 19 rushing plays against Denver who by the way is 28th in nearly every D catagory! "
JOEY Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 11:03pm EDT"Is our secondary this bad ? or is it the lack of a pass rush and who should be covering the tight end ?"
jared bennett Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 11:15pm EDT"why isnt david clowney playing he is a deep threat that we need"
Ron Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 11:39pm EDT"The defense of play calling is bad in certain situations. There's too much of a gap in the secondary (at least 20yards) from the receivers. The tight end is always wide open, even the the 5 game winning streak! And when the offense is inside the 5yard line, run sometimes or play action. Don't be so obvious!!"
Emilio Harris Lauchú Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 11:54pm EDT"Muy buenas noches. soy panameño y les hablare español porque es mi idioma de nacionalidad y espero que muchos que lo hablen lo puedan entender ya que mi ingles no esta muy avanzado. Pienso que este partido fue bastante decepcionante despues de venir de ganar un grandioso partido ante los invictos los Titans. pienso que hubo muchos errores por ejemplo: la defensa estuvo pesima. "
chekov Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 12:07am EDT"the team was out coached, done, we laid an egg, now we need to focus and win the rest, lucky New England loss as well, can't hope for that all the time. but I would like to think that the coaches prepare for the bad teams as well as the good teams, right randy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Iowachick Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 12:15am EDT"I don't think it was an issue that Cutler outplayed Favre. We had no pass defense. Also, it was curious our receivers could not hold on to the ball, while Denver did not seem to have that same problem. I would think the Jets would be used to weather conditions. The guys and coaches will analyze this loss and go forth even stronger than we were. Go Jets. See ya in Tampa! "
Zachary Rudnick Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 12:47am EDT"Its okay we will come out and kick the crap out of the 49ers, Bills, Seahawks, and Dolphins its an easy schedule from here. plus we haven't played the Broncos well ever since our loss to them in the AFC Championship game. We all know how that turned out."
Aaron Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:18am EDT"the pass rush is the problem, cutler had all day to pass, where is gohlston????? we spend all this money on him, and dont have him in the game so he cud rush the passer, hopefully he wud be better than who we have in there now, our tackling is too soft for us to not be rushin the passer effectively, were not the bears"
Tammy Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:31am EDT"I'm a bit confused on why we had NO pass rush!! Cutler had enough time to have and drink and a restroom break. ONCE we went after him, and that time, we flustered him!! Not sure why we waited until we had only 6 mintues left on the clock to put presure on him. I also noticed that everytime we tried to go no huddle, a Denver player went down...We have the game plan, we need to stay consistent!!"
Brandon Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:49am EDT"Why do the refs give the Broncos so many favorable and controversial calls? The first Denver touchdown resulted from the same kind of terrible officiating that stole a win away from the Chargers. I know calls go both ways and it's the nature of the game, but no other team this season has had as many meaningful calls earn them points as the Broncos. "
Brandon Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 2:00am EDT"Should I expect another disappointing Jets loss on the West Coast next week? The way Cutler burned the Jets secondary and the lack of a Jets pass rush has me thinking that Gang Green may make Hill look like a Manning on Sunday."
Bxmacho Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 2:07am EDT"Bottom line, the jets need PASS RUSHERS!!!! Jay cutler had all day to throw. We will go nowhere until they can rush the quarterback with four (just look at the NYG)."
jimmy quinonez Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 2:46am EDT"your right injury after injury..it was obvious they had denver on the ropes and were building momentum..the league should take a look at that..it was frustrating to see seven injurys back 2 back..such cowardness"
Steve Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 3:15am EDT"How about Denver's rookie back running through the Jets D line like it was swiss cheese? And I have to agree with Joey, our secondary is that bad, look at the stats. Denver's receivers were wide open all day, and Cutler had enough time for a manicure when he dropped back to pass. No rush, no coverage and bad tackling. Jeremy, you are right too, why pass on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1. Frustrating"
Bob Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 6:10am EDT"the jets need to play with more intensity. no way that rookie should have run for over 100 yards! why did they abandon the screen passes? take what the defense gives you!"
dolphindanny Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 6:44am EDT"ah i c the real Brett Favre finally showed up"
Ira Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 7:07am EDT"I had a bad feel for this game because of the matchup. Strong passing game vs a suspect passing defense.. Credit the Broncos and you can't win games giving up almost 500 yds of offense and turning over the ball 2 times. They will regroup and bounce back. I think they blew their chance for the 2nd seed though. Randy, 34 had beed the winning score for 3 games in a row now. Has that ever happened?"
taiflem Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 7:30am EDT"I here a lot of people bashing the secondary today. Its not really far to judge them just yet cause for starters the jets are still trying to fill in some spots at corner. And if you actually thinks about the jets the last two years the secondary never really been tested because the defensive line was our weak spot at the time. The only person that really exploited the secondary was Brady then."
taiflem Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 7:37am EDT"Now from the previous games the jets have played, the secondary is showing our new weak point. And in order for the jets to get any further, that have to be worked on now. And I agree with a lot of our fans, the play calling really did stink, be tough, run the ball on 4th and 1. Doing what we did is a waste of even improving the line to begin wit. Cut out some trickery, and pick these teams apart"
Silversword55 Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 7:39am EDT"I'm not worried, we'll win the next 4."
jet jeff Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 8:14am EDT"look at the way titans, steelers ,giants , cowboys, bucs, panthers, colts, play, those are playoff teams , what a joke & favre played in green bay all those years it looked like the first time he saw rain & wind, fire sutton"
sal Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 8:27am EDT"This team plays off the front lines, and if they come out flat, it will be hard to win, exspecially on d, if u give anyteam time against this secondary, theyll lose, dont know if its talent or coaching, its one or the other, Cotherys drop was big, major momemtum killer, bottom line denver had 5 big plays, from no pressure, bad coverage, poor tackleing, offence ran last weeks game plan"
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 8:29am EDT"Just dont seem to play well against a team with a deep threat-i think this game angered LAW & you'll see a possessed player next sunday"
Mikeod Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 8:29am EDT"Once again the defense played scared of giving up the 'big play' and cutler raked up huge chunks of yardage w/o being touched. Denver stacked the los all day and took away the short passing game. Why can't we make teams pay downfield for doing that! .Can't play conservative on both sides of the ball. week 12 and they play like this at home, disappointing. come on guys!"
Monika Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 8:35am EDT"I have just one question... Where was the team that beat the Titans last sunday?? I don't know what happened out there but it wasn't pretty. Come on guys I know you can do better job than that. I still believe in you. Go out there and show what you made of and that you can win this! Go Jets!"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 8:53am EDT"I said Fri that I was scared to death over this matchup & I was right. The defense couldn't tackle, there was zero pressure, the QB couldn't throw & the WR's couldn't catch.Mangini clearly didn't have his team ready. Don't hurt yourself jumping off the Bandwagon everyone. Truth is we'll lose one more,like I said enjoy the journey its easier when we lose, look at the season as a whole."
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:05am EDT"I can't wait to see the Bronco's injury report this Weds, Ray I agree there are some SHANAHAN SHENANIGANS going on & the league should warn all teams.The only joy I get after a loss is reading all the posts from during & after the game from our loco negative nancys, the same guys that were talking 1&2 seeds are now Ex fans again, priceless.Relax guys the Draft is only 5 months away."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:05am EDT"Were are all the Mangini apologists? Hiding? Nothing to say big mouth Cedric, Drew and Mikey Mc? This loss is inexcusable for a whole host of reasons. The team was not prepared the game plan was atrocious and the play calling was awful. Hello Mangini wake up you need to pressure Cutler rushing 3 guys and trying to cover their receivers with the worst secondary in the league doesn't work...got it??"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:08am EDT"Us fans best smarten up how many times have we given up 400 & 500 yards to inferior teams this year .. WE are a playoff team in the hands of incapable coaches unable to adjust to schemes .. Sorry to sound redundant we make the same mistakes week after week .. Getting so tired of it either we get lead & just hang on or get behind & lose every time .. Is every1 that blind we need change 3 years....."
Blinka Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:09am EDT"Again please, somebody throw water in my face because I don't understand. Another game with no 3-4 pass rush. Do they not have the players for it or do they not know how to play it. When will some one here explain to me why big lineman should drop into pass coverage. "
Frank Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:10am EDT"This just in.... We now have the Fed Ex "Goat of the Week" award. This weeks canidates are NYJ head coach E. Mangini, NYJ Offensive Disorganizer B. Schottenheimer and our favorite to win the award A. Elam. Who by the way probably played the worst game a starting saftey has played in the NFL this season. He blew enough plays to qualify for a season. He stinks and E. Smith needs to play if healthy."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:16am EDT"Speaking of Elam although the entire team stunk it up except TJ who had a monster game and seemed to be the only player who showed up. Elam singlehandedly blew so many plays you can attribute much of this loss to him. Pace has fallen off the radar the last several weeks. Shanahan exploited our weakness our lumbering LB's who can't cover my grandmother. More stunning is Jets made no adjusments."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:23am EDT"Cont... Every1 here has valid points understood.....Here's the real 1 this system has had 3 years to work we gave them every lead way best players money can buy patience understanding .. This is the best your going to see from them all nice family men I'm sure . But its proven over & over when our life blood is on the line they can't handle the big boys always a gimmick to beat the jets CHOKE "
t.o. Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:35am EDT"must say im not shocked. cutlers arm & deep threat scared me cuz our secondary has been holding us back. cassel had 400 yds! thigpe looked like montana vs jets! when will mgmt. realize its not working? we're getting burned there more than anywhere else all year long! and SORRY DENVER BUT YOURE FAKE! IT COULDNT BE MORE OBVIOUS HOW BAD YOU GUYS PRETENDED YOU WERE HURT.PS-COTCHERY NEVER FUMBLED....."
j e t s jets jets jets Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:37am EDT"Getting too confident. all NY SB talk etc. Lets finish these games first. had to get a lost out of the way. still got faith in you JETS! play like you did against the titans!!!! we will win the rest of the games! J E T S JETS JETS JETS "
dade county jets fan Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:40am EDT"I hope the secondary gets ready for a pass happy Mike Martz led 49ers team. If the jets bottle up Frank Gore early then we may see how weak our secondary is again next week. Is Elam that bad? Elam got beat on 2 long touchdowns. I didn't like Eric Smith before, but now i can't wait for him to get back into the lineup."
jimmy Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:45am EDT"The defense needs to adjust to the short crossing passing underneath.They have a lot of trouble with that,and teams are gona exploit that till they fix it..Where is the pass rush?"
Troy in houston Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:56am EDT"hey rudnik, we beat Denver the very next year at Denver Victor Green popped Terrell Davis ending his career ,bad example and worst excuse."
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:15am EDT"hey look i agree with the earlier of GREGG 5straight with 2playoffs is alot to carry but still no excuse for the way they played it was bad from the start 16 or so carrys from jones over 135yds jones should have ran 35-40 x in that rain they turned it into shootout we lost due to bad coaching so that said need to get real guys teams are stepping up we need to step it up no game plan is just crazy"
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:16am EDT"well from postgame comments sounds like they werent very humble after taking down tenn, ne. now it comes out they didnt practice well? thats not a good sign, hopefully thats just an excuse. i thought we had those 'CHARACTER GUYS' that didnt read there own press clips. "
Alan Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:28am EDT"I have to get this off my chest...Denver Broncos are COWARDS!..that's right I said it!...I was so besides myself with the "Injuries" when we went into hurry up. Now, back to my beloved J-E-T-S. Our secondary is our weak spot..except for Mr.Revis. Elam is better suited for run stopping plays. May need to let Barrett play some safety there for more speed. I thought craig james retired?"
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:41am EDT"its funny but sad we lost to SD.OAK.DENVER. all 3 in the same division 2 struggling teams in the league i dont understand how you can come off 2 huge road wins and fall asleep at home with a crowd thats going crazy for ya no game plan no emotion from mangini nothing, but hopefuly they can use that loss to review exactly how cutler had all day to pick apart the jets, ps dont sleep on the 49rs ok "
J-Money Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:44am EDT"Chad Pennington will come back to Haunt US!!!"
Tom from New York in L.A. Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:44am EDT"I think this has been a great year so far and Mangini deserves a lot of the credit. But I can't help noticing that he has this bizarre tendency to call plays that make no sense at incredibly crucial times. He calls a first-half onside kick against an explosive San Diego offense just after his team has managed to climb back into the game. And he..."
JR Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:46am EDT"What in the world was that? Poor officiating....NFL should be looking for a couple replacements. Poor Jet coaching....how do you get from Tenn. game to a mess like yesterday? Did we take a week off practice? Did we let our success go to our head? NO!!! This is exactly what we do every time we have some success....WE ALWAYS FEEL THE NEED TO DO IT THE HARD WAY!! To all that played well thanks. JETS!"
Tom from New York in L.A. Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:47am EDT"...back to Mangini, and he calls passes on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 when he's got two of the best runners in the game this year, a great offensive line, and he's playing against one of the worst defenses against the run in the league. I've been watching pro football since 1963 and I've never seen calls like this."
Wayne Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:58am EDT"Where was the secondary & pass rush today?Cutler had all day.The D really let us down.After a game like today,even my 17 year old son said "Dad, the Jets will not go far in the playoffs.I totally agree!We looked like we were reading our press clippings.Leon and TJ were awesome.Favre looked terrible, LC was invisible.Gholston was playing in slow motion.Embarrassed at home.Time for a gut check Jets."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:11am EDT" Hello Mike MC your excuses are getting very embarrassing & ridiculous ..Scared of losing this game give me a break .. we didn't lose it we got out coached.. Same game plan as last week in whole diff situation all Mike S did was fake injuries every time we went no huddle to nullify it & mangini couldn't adjust .. Sutton is so way out touch with the reality of the NFL its disgraceful at best"
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:11am EDT"not gonna speak neg-i still think we take the east but i do beleive players feed off there coaches mangini shows nothing you could place a cardboard cut out you couldnt tell the difference hey i played ball and a fired up coach gets everyone pumped up look at the best out there and you will see fire and passion look at coughlin he motivates runs up and down the field man has the passion we need"
Peter Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:12am EDT"I don't want to hear FARVE sort of say, that the weather had something to do with some of his throws. Please FARVE, just say you had a bad game and didn't make some throws. Please FARVE, don' t try an blame the weather for some of your bad throws. And Mangini was a DB Coach. Why is the JETS secondary so inconsistent? This JETS secondary/DB should be a SHUT DOWN secondary by now!"
Wayne Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:13am EDT"Oh, and the play calling stunk. If you can't get a yard on 3rd & 1 or 4th & 1 by running the ball, then your terrible.Shotty needs to shelve the double tight end formation & spread the offense to look like a pass & the run it down their throats.He does double TE & runs the ball off tackle. Duh, predictable, predictable, predictable. He does that every week.Everyone knows whats coming.FIRE SHOTTY!!"
Ray Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:13am EDT"Frank I can't disagree with anything you said, I could add to it but no need to. I am still stunned that Cutler can throw across his body 40 yds. downfield and Elam can't get there in time to defend it!! BTW for whoever was asking, it was Gholston who was in Cutler's face on that play. Troy in houston, T. Davis got hit by his own guy on that play trying to tackle Green after an int."
Seawiz Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:15am EDT"Maybe it would be good if we didnt get the first seed in the AFC since we arent good at home? Just a thought"
TB77 Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:25am EDT"We let a great opportunity slip away yesterday! We should have a 2 game lead in the AFC East right now. I agree the officials blew that first call Cotchery was down by contact. That call gave them momentum and 7 undeserved points! But when push comes to shove Denver wanted the game more. We blew it! I have to say I was at the stadium yesterday to support the Jets and I feel let down!"
Anonymous Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:26am EDT"Also Shotty, we were running the ball effectively & should have had a game plan to run in rain & control the clock.Take the ball our of Cutlers hands & play ball control. Goal is time of possesion when you play on a sloppy field. Shotty must go. He doesn't have a clue. Suttons also terrible.Seconday played 10 yds off receiver..You have man up & bump receiver at line & throw him off his pattern."
JEAN Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:35am EDT"WE ARE BRETT FANS FROM WI AND WE ARE WATCHING THE JETS NOW, BRETT WILL GET THEM TO SUPERBOWL BUT HE NEEDS HELP, ESPECIALLY IN RUSHING THE PASSER OF HIS OPPONENTS......WHEN BRETT WINS A GAME WE SAY HERE: THE OPPOSITION HAS BEEN ''''FAVRED''''.....SO, WATCH THE REST OF THE TEAMS THE JETS PLAY, BE FAVRED.......... "
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:38am EDT"Ray.. you are in such denial your willing to embarrass yourself week in & week out I will say it again every division leader won this week except us hows that for ridiculous... Your losing credibility at every turn .. Your insulting the intelligence of fans who know football with your comments .. Mangini isn't ready for the big dogs in the league .Watch next week he will play scared to win"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:51am EDT"Frank your downright Giddy, Mangini did a terrible job preparing the team & Shotty called a terrible game, so did Sutton. Elam was brutal, but so was Favre Cotch, Coles Jenks , all the LB's, Barton's stupid delay penalty, the secondary(except Regis).The whole team(except TJ , Leon,Mangold,Keller, Regis) should be blamed for sloppy play."
Jets5496 Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 12:24pm EDT"We are a good team.I think we just played to relaxed because of the win over the Titans.Some times you need a loss to put you back in the right state of mind.Its a loss and you can't go back and change that.So lets pull it together and get ready for the niners.We still have first place,but not if we keep playing like we did against Denver.So lets suck it up and kick some niner but."
JETFORLIFE Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 12:29pm EDT"LOL @ little 'dolphin danny.' How's 2nd place feel??? Favre beat you in YOUR house!"
Glen Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 12:42pm EDT"We lost the game because of near freezing temps and steady rain. NE went down just as hard for the same reason. Den plays in those conditions regularly - I know, I used to live in the area. We practice outdoors, but rarely do we see conditions like this. Mangini is the best head coach in football. Our team will adjust."
CD Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 12:53pm EDT"If you want to be champions, you cannot let anyone come in and push you around, especially in your own house. I don't care if the weather was bad, the officials were unfair, and the opponents cheated. If the Jets are going to be superbowl contenders, they have to be determined enough to overcome the obstacles, whatever they may be, and win. It takes heart and real drive to be a champion. "
Russell Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:30pm EDT"OK, so the JETS put up a stinker. Plenty of blame to go around. Let's hope they get it out of their system, get back to work and prepare for this week's game in San Francisco. I for one would like to see the JETS run the ball more often, forget the gimmick plays and on defense, can the JETS generate a pass rush and tackle better than they did yesterday. One more thing, FORGET about SUPER BOWL"
sal Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:44pm EDT"Cant put it on the head coach there 8-4 in first place, players have to play, the secondary coach maybe, Mangini 500 win pct also comes during a rebuilding period, that isnt bad. secondary coach needs to do better, too many yard givin up, now their not tackling. Cutler isnt a bad, QB will see them in playoffs PS Mike I did sleep well but knew this was trouble"
sal Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:51pm EDT"PS Pace is better at pass rushin that chasin down tight ends, characture players will rebound, Characture players show up for work, not spendin time in the joint, not pointin fingers"
Luis from Olathe Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:53pm EDT"It was just a bad game, it happens. Next week we are going to start smelling roses again, GO JETS!!!!!"
IAMAYAHOO Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 2:03pm EDT"the jets are a good team not a great team! jets should min next week but for all "half a fan's" don't rely on the patriots or the dolphins losing... just look at the schedules! if baltimore can beat pittsburgh next week then we still have a shot at a bye week! jets finish 11-5 losing to the bills... call me a guru when we have a 4th seed!"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 2:12pm EDT"Twice I typed Regis when I meant Revis, the "G" is next to the "V", Mike the Ex why are you attacking me who am I defending today ? Who is Ray defending today?Your like a loose dog, get some direction.Mangini had a bad day along with 50 other guys, we move on to S.F. & try to correct the mistakes."
OriginalJetFan Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 2:18pm EDT"been a fan too long, don't usually get too high, or too low, but I really am starting to question the game prep and play calling ability of Eric"Belichek Lite" Mangini. Schizoid offense, all run, then all pass, then stupid 'trick" plays, same stupid post game comments. brett looks like Chad of LY, Chad looks like preMangini winner he always was, "it's the Coach Stupid", he's over his head."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 3:19pm EDT"Its almost funny how happy guys like Frank and Ex get when this teams loses. They eat humble pie when we win 3 huge road games in the last 5 weeks but now the team is horrible again and the coaches stink. You guys change your colors by the hour...We got outplayed and outcoached. Where is anyone hiding here? It was a bad game overall. We control our own destiny. If you jump off now just stay off!!"
Ray Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 3:43pm EDT"mike ex I am embarrassed to have to answer your bonehead blogs with reality. Look it up mr. rocket scientist, Arizona is leading their division and they LOST. Your insulting fans who can read and spell ENGLISH!! The next valid point you make will be your FIRST! Keep that Mangini can't coach because he's chewing gum line going though, it makes you sound like a REAL INTELLIGENT football fan."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 5:00pm EDT"Mikey Mc I am not giddy I am downright angry that Mangini laid a huge egg this week. It's up to the coaching staff to get the team prepared to play. They got blown out in their own building in December it's disgusting. I said it before this team will rise and fall based on the limitations of the coaching staff which would be a travesty since we have the players to perform better than this. "
scjoe Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 5:32pm EDT"Please people, do not put this on the coaching staff. They weren't out there missing tackles, fumbling the ball around, or throwing it around,or leaving receivers wide open all day long. The bad weather didn't seem to effect the Broncos at all. But the good news is NE lost as well, so we are still ok. Don't expect a W in SF next week if they play like this again."
mike Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 5:35pm EDT"Its a lose. period. It happens to the best of teams and the worst. The Jets will bounce back and I have no idea why anyone should bash Mangini. He is a great coach who went from 4-12 to now leading the afc east. Relax."
gjp Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 6:02pm EDT"like i said , you buy cheap, you coach cheap. i think woody better start looking for a whole new coaching staff. the only one who coaches is west. mangini, shot , and sutton all coach scared and it shows. they can't out coach anybody. pathetic. i feel sorry for the players. new players, same ole coaching."
mikeod Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 6:02pm EDT"I was hoping that these kind of games were behind us, only a few more opportunities left, playoff contenders are going to be playing their best ball right about now. it's too late in the season and the stakes are too high to play like they did against the broncos when do you sign on with this team? 10 wins, 11,12?......"
Row Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 6:13pm EDT"Newsflash guys, Schotty wants a head coaching job. Any time he can showboat his spread throw-up offense, he will, and it helped us lose this game. Elam was the S, not the cover guy. There is no reason to man him or any safety with a WR. It's obvious the OC wants Keller in the O, at the expense of first downs and the deep ball. Should have drafted Rogers-Cromartie at 6. Raiders 31 Broncos 10!!!"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 6:20pm EDT"Hey Frank _ how about the talent on San Diego, Cleveland, Jacksonville,Houston,Philadelphia,& New Orleans all pre-season playoff favorites. My point is we are not in a bad spot -YET. I also want to thank you for calling me "Mikey" it makes me feel warm & loved.My closest, dearest friends call me Mikey.Plus its better than that small mexican dog you call Drew."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 7:47pm EDT"You know Mikey Mc it's funny how Drew spouts me as a Mangini hater which I am not and being happy by a loss which is ridiculous. Unlike Drew, you not so much and a few others I do not have a mouth full of Mangini derriere and beer goggles on. It gets old real fast when they fall back to bad habits and keep repeatedly making the same mistakes. I am really happy I make you feel all warm and fuzzy!"
Frank Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 7:50pm EDT"By the way Mikey I have 3 Blackmouth Kerr's, Father is Jose son Taco and daughter Belle. Oh and I forgot my Chihuahua, Drew!"
jetfan914 Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 9:05pm EDT"glen? mangini is the best coach in the nfl. you must not be series. i was at the game yesterday and he doesnt say 1 word to get any of the players fired up and has no emotion"
Ed in Tucson Said:
Tue, December 2, 2008 - 12:05am EDT"Now I know how Titans fans felt last week. Confident they had the better team, they got humiliated at home. I agree with those who said that there's enough blame to go around, players, coaches, officials, all stunk. The "fumble" was huge, it gave Broncs 7 pts+ momentum. Only thing wrong with that play was execution, it should have been handed off, not pitched. Enough emotional ranting! Go Jets!"
George Said:
Tue, December 2, 2008 - 7:35am EDT"This was a horrible game. To play the way we've been playing, and to just come out flat like this disgusts me."
chris Said:
Tue, December 2, 2008 - 9:30am EDT"i think the jets will do just fine,it's one bad game,with a few bad call's. if theay just play the way theay played against the tittans for the rest of the season,who know's what will happen,let's just stick behind are jets.. !! J.E.T.S !! JETS !! JETS !! JETS !!"
MikeMc Said:
Tue, December 2, 2008 - 9:54am EDT"Easy there Frank I was being facetious with the warm & fuzzy comment. Blackmouth kerr or is it cur? Beautiful animals smart& rugged, a real man's dog. Old Yeller was one if I remember hopefully your pups fare better. But do you really have a Chihuahua named Drew or are you being pejorative?"
OriginalJetFan Said:
Tue, December 2, 2008 - 11:39am EDT"Ok, some comments on Man-genius, Yr1--took a 4-12 team to 10-6, actually they were4-12 because Chad was out, the yr prior they were 10-6, Chad came back , not Mangini Yr2-- Same team, back to 4-12, put in a 3-4 D-fense with NO nose tackle, and wouldnt change and benched QB too soon(QB who took a 1-15 to 7-5 ty), Yr 3-5 free agents and HOF QB, makes same play calling mistakes in each loss,"
MikeMc Said:
Tue, December 2, 2008 - 1:40pm EDT"Original Jetfan, your cherry picking, first Mangini isn't calling offensive or Defensive plays during the game, 2nd if your going to blame him for 4-12 you have to give him credit for 10-6 & 8-4 respectively.Some people are never satisfied or find fault in everything, look at the positives, its Dec we're on top of the AFC east & control our own destiny. Its been an entertaining yr. so why cry now?"
Frank Said:
Tue, December 2, 2008 - 5:03pm EDT"Mikey Mc I am disappointed I thought we were getting close. To correct you I was (using) the perjorative. It is Kerr not "Cur" not sure what species that is. My wife did insist on 2 Chihuahua's "Coockeracha" and "Madonnna" unfortunately they don't fare well on ranches. An owl grabbed one and a coyote the other."
35 year fan Said:
Wed, December 3, 2008 - 3:25pm EDT"We have got to have an all out attack on San Fran this week . This jets team is too good to let another one slip away .50 to 0 should right the ship again. This defense really needs to be put in a attackers role this week.We have got to put pressure on the passer . That was something we failed to do against the broncos. "
Nick Troop Said:
Wed, December 3, 2008 - 4:51pm EDT"Personally, If they had to lose at all, Im glad they lost now. We have two division games coming up and two games with sub-par teams. We need these last four wins to enter the playoffs on a hot streak and to continue to fend off the steady pats and surging phins. Obviously i would have liked to see them win-out, but i dont mind this loss as long as it lights a fire and makes them fight harder."
Howie D Said:
Wed, December 3, 2008 - 8:06pm EDT"After 3 days, it's still a terrible feeling. Weather was definitely a factor, but we were simply outcoached, and outplayed - again. Let's hope everyone comes out and earn the victory against the 49ers before prematurely checking it off in the win column. "
Goldclaw Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 10:54am EDT"The Broncos should have won Academy awards for acting hurt in the secondary several times just to slow Brett Favre'shurry up offence--The Jets will beat Frisco!!"
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Scooter Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:46pm EDT"I heard Coach's post game. His first statement should have been "WE didn't prepare this team better for today's game". That is where the blame lies at the top! He doesn't have the resume to fit his ego (how does he wear a hat?). Jets were out coached today. Please, please explain the B Smith @ QB play! Enough already with the "trickery". If this team is good enough, it's not necessary!"
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