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11/30 — The Jets stop the Broncos on the opening drive of the second half, but now comes our third officiating "situation" in this game. Brett Kern's punt bounces toward the goal line and Mario Haggan appears to step on the goal line as he bats the ball back onto the field of play. Head coach Eric Mangini challenges again. Ref Walt Coleman again upholds the call on the field.
The Jets start out at their 2, they've lost one of their three timeouts this half, and with his second replay challenge, Mangini has no more this game.
But the home team gets 15 of those 18 lost yards back when Thomas Jones has his facemask grasped at the end of a run by LB Wesley Woodyard, so the Jets quickly get out from the shadow of their goalposts. Oh, sorry, no shadow today. The rain continues to fall steadily, as it has all game.
And the adverse conditions aren't limited to falling from the sky for the home team. The Jets try to convert on third-and-1 and fourth-and-1 with pass plays. Brett Favre's first pass can't find Brad Smith. He never gets his second off, scrambling and falling short of the marker for a 1-yard sack recorded by Haggan.
The Broncos drive and appear to have scored again on a burst by the aforementioned rookie fullback find, Peyton Hills, for a 14-yard score. But flag on the play: C Casey Weigmann is called for holding the shoulder pads of C.J. Mosley, whom Hills breezed past. First-and-20 at the Jets 24.
And three plays later, the Jets get Jay Cutler on the move to his right. He tries to salvage the third-and-long field goal position but he fails as his overthrow of TE Tony Scheffler is picked off in the end zone — by Dwight Lowery. The rookie corner, who had been starting up until three games ago when Ty Law arrived, comes up with the first interception of his pro career. It couldn't come at a more opportune time.
And shortly after it's Leon Time, as Leon Washington takes three Favre passes and moves the chains deep into the red zone — on a 34-yard screen pass from Favre, then 14 yards on a blitz-beater to the Denver 19., then a 12-yarder to the 7.
Three Broncos players are injured, one on each of those plays — LB Spencer Larsen on the screen, then DE Ebenezer Ekuban on the quick outlet, then CB Dré Bly on the final completion.
But Bly comes back after a one-play rest and Favre can't find an open receiver, so the Jets have to settle for Jay Feely's 30-yard field goal with 2:50 left in the third quarter to cut the Denver lead to 27-17.
After the kickoff, Cutler, being chased from his 11 by Vernon Gholston, makes another strong pass to open TE Tony Scheffler for 24 yards. And on a third-down incompletion, Eric Barton celebrates by throwing the dead ball into the air, drawing a 5-yard delay of game. But neither of these plays prevents a punt by the Broncos, and at the end of the third quarter the Jets are moving toward midfield.
Fourth Quarter
The Green & White appear to be stalled on third-and-8 at their 38. But not with Favre and with Chansi Stuckey. The QB hits the second-year WR over the middle for 16 yards. Stuckey is stuck by S Marquand Manuel, but Manuel is the player who gets up slowly after the hit. The fans boo at yet another Broncos player on the wet turf.
The Jets find themselves fourth-and-3 at the visitors' 39 and the call is to go for it. Favre, well-protected, checks down from one receiver to another. He sees Jerricho Cotchery break free down the right sideline and puts a ball up inside the 10 that looks like it has a real good chance. Except that it hangs up just a little too long and CB Karl Paymah catches up to J-Co and forces an incompletion. Favre puts hands on head, then bends over at the missed opportunity. The Jets still trail by 10 with 12:10 left in the game.
Then comes the Jets' worst adversity yet. On third-and-2 at the Jets 36, Cutler rolls right and he's got Brandon Stokley open behind Abram Elam. Cutler hits Stokley in stride for the touchdown. It's now Broncos, 34-17, with 9½ minutes left. It's a dagger. Is it the final dagger? The Jets need three scores with time dwindling away.
The Jets defense force a thiree-and-out but it's too late. Then Favre on his first play loads up and throws to a temporarily open Laveranues Coles. But the ball hangs and slides to the outside and CB Josh Bell catches up to deflect it away. Coles is still catchless on the day.
Finally, Coles catches a pass, and it converts a second down, and Dustin Keller and Brad Smith add nice grab-and-runs, but it's taking too long to punch the ball in. In fact, the Jets fail to punch it in as Favre throws three incompletions on first-and-goal at the 2, the final one on a reverse of the play the Jets scored on at Tennessee last week, with the pass to Coles at the back of the end zone batted away by Bell.
With 2:43 to play, this game is over. The Broncos' Hillis completes an uncanny 129-yard rushing game on 22 carries before Cutler starts his kneeldowns. The rain continues to come down as the players flood the field after the Jets were unable to seize the reins of opportunity in their 34-17 loss to the Broncos.
Eric Allen's game story will be live soon, Tim Carlson will report from the Jets locker room on Darrelle Revis, who led the effort to hold WR Brandon Marshall to five catches for 55 yards, and Dwight Lowery, who came up with his first pro interception, and I'll have the postgame Radar entry in a few hours.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (69)Jazz Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 6:35pm EDT"What a great interception in the back of the end zone by the jets in the 3rd quarter! All hope is not lost yet!"
Ray Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 6:50pm EDT"I really don't want to hear anymore about how great Elam is! He has stunk up this place today. And BTW with the exception of two third down passes, WE AREN'T GETTING OUTCOACHED, WE ARE GETTING OUTPLAYED!!!!!"
ScottinAfghanistan Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:00pm EDT"How is it that every time we go into hurry-up offense, some denver defender lays down on the field with an injury?"
jak, 17 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:02pm EDT"are these broncos made of crystal?every time we get up to the line for hurry up one of ems down.who knows how this effects outcome that coulda been"
Ray Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:02pm EDT"What a joke! Every time we make a play someone on Denver flops on the ground. This is starting to happen too much to be anything more than a ploy to get the play stopped and to slow us down. Ekuban looked half dead and was back on the field in two plays. This ain't soccer!!"
jak, 17 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:16pm EDT"well jets fans ,we can take solace that new england will remain a game behind us.the jets tried today and thats all we can ask.for. so jets 1 game aint the season, we'll get em next week."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:19pm EDT"Hey guys that's called coaching I admit its pansy coaching but its working against us they fake being hurt to rest there defence .. Getting sick & tired of getting beat by these teams with all second stringers whole defence is hurt I will guarantee we will not ever get to the SB or deep in playoffs with this coaching staff .. We can never adjust to any teams or play from behind its sickening"
pranit Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:20pm EDT"Jets never blitzed the whole game...first blitz came with 6 mins left in the game, and Denver up 34-17...Sutton/Mangini need to prevent the prevent defense for their next jobs...this game is over...Mangini please stop chewing gum on the sidelines and show you are interested...can someone please ask him in his post game presser (about the gum)? "
Jeremy Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:21pm EDT"Mangini, Shotty & Sutton got dominated-this team always seems to play down to their opponents level. This was a miserable game to watch. How do you throw it on 3rd &1 and 4th & 1?? Play calling is disgraceful. FIRE SUTTON & SHOTTY! Completely outcoached at home--not acceptable! Atleast the Pats look like they are going to lose!"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:26pm EDT"Cont. Every team leading in there divisions won this week except us that's coaching down to your opponents .. We played scared to lose football again so all the improvement in the coaching the last few weeks just went down the drain .. They still can't cut it you win against Titans & lose at home to Denver hope we make the playoffs .. This game means so much in tie breakers & divisions wins "
russ Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:28pm EDT"Play like Champions is not in the Jet lexicon...beaten at home by another west coast loser....tst tst tst Hey Pass Rush anybody??? "
Silversword55 Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:28pm EDT"We look flat. Looks like the Jets were caught up with the Super Bowl talk between the media, so they got caught up and the Broncos caught us. And the Broncos should stop flopping, this isn't basketball!"
Alexander Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:29pm EDT"Garbage. That's all today was. Thomas Jones only had 16 rushes? Yea, over a 100 yards, so what? If he's doing so well, keep giving him the ball!!!"
Sean Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:29pm EDT"When, oh when will the management wake up and FIRE Mangini; he is wilthout doubt a horrible leader and has no knowlege of how to fool the opposition by mixing up the game. Run-Run-Pass-Kick, then Run-Run-Pass-Kick, over and over and over with the same results. Why blame Farve when he is told to pass on 3rd and long when the opposition is expecting and defending for it. Mangini: WAKE UP."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:37pm EDT"Any 1 who understands good coaching & good game planning your opponents can plainly see we were out foxed all day .. Ray g8 call moving the ball down field early in the game call a trick play in the pouring rain turn it over ... Then get INT the same play in the same spot at least 5 times this year.. It's just plain embarrassing if we can't win at home . We will not go far just kidding yourself"
sal Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:38pm EDT"They had no desire, missed a great opurntunity to move ahead in the division, Coles Elam, Both lines. horrible. Favre Jones and keller cant win it alone. Secondary needs work, if their going to go anywhere. Shotty dont revert"
Anonymous Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:38pm EDT"horrible...just awful. I wish we played well at home. I wish our house through teams off their game and was a fearsome place to play. How can we play so great against superior talent and then lose to this weak division leader. All in a days work for a jets fan. If I could apologize to the rest of the fans on behalf of the Jets I would!"
sal Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:39pm EDT"PS This ones on the players alone"
Christopher Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:48pm EDT"Very sloppy....the Jets did not look well prepared for this game...maybe they were believing the hype and took this game too lightly, but this loss only shows that they have NOT taken that next step to be an elite team in this league. TJ had a nice game, the D was horrible, 0 sacks???? and we gave up over 100 yards rushing???? I blame that on poor game planning."
Staten Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:49pm EDT"I personally think we could've won the game pretty easily, or at least kept it a bit closer. We missed four forth down conversions I believe, and I THINK that two of the three could've been field-goals... One would've been 57 yards with the win at our backs, and the other a mere 20 yards. Now, I could be wrong, and probably am! lol. *continued*"
Staten Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:52pm EDT"If we had went for the field goal (4th and goal I think) and made it, it's a two possesion game, we've got a chance at recovering the onside kick, etc. It was a three possesion game, should've hit the field goal."
Stunna Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:53pm EDT"Denver done a great job of playing possum on our hurry up plays they knew what they were doing coz we dominate at that part of the game 4 hurry up 4 injuries PLEASE n throw the ball to coles early in the game to get him going dnt expect too much from him when he has had 1 pass go his way until 5 mins left in the 4th he is a playmaker like keller gta keep him warm, Defense under par Jets bounce bak"
jak, 17 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:54pm EDT"YOUR RIGHT MIKE THE INJURYS WERE COACHED. THERE OUGHTA BE A RULE WHEN A PLAYER GOES OUT FOR AN INJURY HE SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO GO BACK IN GAME UNTIL A CHANGE OF POSSESION .THOSE BOGUS INJURYS COST US A COUPLE POSSIBLE TDS. IT WOULDA BEEN A MUCH CLOSER GAME...POSSIBLY. WE NEED TO RUN ON GOALINE.WITH 4 DOWNS NOT PASS.OR MIX IT UP."
Kara Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 7:58pm EDT"Sutton is a joke. Fire Sutton!!!!! "
Kyle Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:01pm EDT"Sutton is a joke. Its like watching a Pop Warner defense play. How many turnovers aside from Arizona and St Louis (where we didnt need them) has this defense forced. Its a joke. This is undoutably the worst defensive team I have seen in 20years. Whats the point of making the playoffs? The first team with a QB will tear us apart. "
FavreFan Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:01pm EDT"Tough loss, no excuses didnt play well at all in all phases. We need to get better, Basicly the jets have to win all of the last 4 games because 11-5 probably wont get them in the playoffs. We have the talent and the potential to do so, but no more room for error or mistakes, we have to play as close to perfect as we can for the rest of the season. lots of pressure, but a good year no matter what"
JP Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:06pm EDT"What I don't understand is why we did not rush the ball more? Denver has been horrible at the run this year. Also, I love Cotchery but he really hurt us today - that horrific fumble and that 4th down catch he dropped. D was simply pitiful today - Denver looked so much faster than us. Pats lost so we are still in first, but I hope this is a wake up call."
Drew Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:08pm EDT"I unlike some of the regular haters will not overreact to this loss but what a letdown. We were clearly outcoached/outplayed by Denver. They ran out of passing formations and passed out of running ones. Cutler made some ridiculous completions and Favre didnt play well. It also looked like Elam came back to earth today and the bogus fumble by Cotch didnt help. Was not in love with the refs either."
JP Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:08pm EDT"This is the type of team and offense that we might meet in the post season - what if the Jets get a home game and Denver comes here...are they going to play this flat? They found a soft spot in the middle of the field and we could get no pressure on Cutler - Forget about the Farve interception, it was Denver's O that killed us and a lack of motivated players. Hopefully this lose will spark us."
Trevis Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:10pm EDT"Just a sad game,. whats with the 4th down conversions lack there of? "
scjoe Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:11pm EDT"Well, I really thought we were on a roll and that "same ol Jets" syndrome was behind us. But how can you say that after this mismatch. You just can't be a championship team and lose games like this more often then not. You just have to be able to beat an inferior team at home."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:16pm EDT" NOW THE WORST PART IS HEARING ALL WEEK LIKE CHRIS COLLINGWORTH ALREADY SAYING HE CAN'T BELIEVE HE JUMPED ON THE JETS BANDWAGAN & HES RIGHT CAN'T BELIEVE i DID TO .. AGAIN THE IMBRASSESSMENT WATCHING THE SPORTS REPORTERS ALL WEEK MAKING A MUCKERY OF US .. THIS TEAM DESERVES WHAT THEY GET NO EXCUSE LOSING THIS GAME ... CHOKED PLAIN & SIMPLE LIKE I SAID OUR WEAKNESS DBS & COACHING"
Drew Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:17pm EDT"We will have to run the table to have any shot at a bye and will need to win 3 of 4 to secure the AFC east. What a difference a week makes. Was LC awake today? Denver also completely shut out Big Jenks. Their O-line was great.....Leon, Revis, TJ, Keller and the O-Line played well but overall a bad showing.....Just a reminder a ton of teams lost at home today Ex Jet...Its the NFL. It happens!!"
draz67 Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:19pm EDT"You could see it in his eyes at the beginning of the game and first half stats. Farve was not into the game Next to the Oakland game, easily a terrible effort and a brutal obvious game plan. Had to have been Favre's worst game I have seen him play in a long, long time. Now we all know why he was thinking about retirement. Terrible throws ; off target and often"
CFU Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:24pm EDT"After last weeks win I didn't believe in the hype but I did believe in Mangini. I guess I was fooled. This game was by far the worst of the season. I just want to cry in a corner. LOL This game brings back bad memories. Y can't we just adjust if the gameplan isn't working. We were doing great on the ground all game so we decide to throw. Wow what a way to out think them Mangini. This game is a HBk"
Tony V Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:25pm EDT"The Cotchery call was blown, they claimed he did not have possession. lying on top of the ball in your gut is possession. Herm could not manage the clock and now we got a guy that can’t make proper in game decisions. How do you go for it on 4th in the 3rd and then punt with 8+ in 4th. How do you not blitz and let him sit in the pocket the entire game. We got lucky in New England.."
JetsFan2Long Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:34pm EDT"I was afraid the Jets would lose this game. They never play well against Denver. That said, it was inexcusable to lose this game at home, especially as badly as they did, and after the great game they had last week. It's a sign that there's still work to do over the next month before they're the team that they and we want them to be."
T-Dub Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:39pm EDT"Man this lose hurts alot. I guess its because we were on such a good winning streak and had beaten the pats and the undefeated titans away, and maybe under estimated the broncos. Maybe it would be good if we didnt get the first seed in the AFC since we arent good at home? Just a thought"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 8:42pm EDT"Mangini lovers ... I might understand losing if our coaches ever showed some emotion any good coaches I ever seen don't stand on the side lines chewing gum & shaking there head & I've watched the best not 1.... Embarrassing to watch shows a sign of weakness then translates to the field .. Untill he kicks some butts were 1 & done with any luck"
Donna C Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:05pm EDT"Ok, they played bad. But being in the front row and watching the game I have to say that I think the refs were from Denver. Some of these calls were crazy today and while I don't think that lost the game for us, the officiating overall was horrible and DID have an impact on the game."
Silversword55 Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:09pm EDT"We underestimated the Broncos, and Jay Cutler, and it cost us. And we are not in bas shape, we are still 1st in the AFC east."
fljetfan Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:09pm EDT"why is it when the jets get down the crowd goes silent?thats when the crowd should try and help the D. watching on tv i saw alot of empties in the 3rd qtr? i thought that only happened in miami.the jets chant is nice but you have to make it difficult on your opponent with noise. personally i think thats why the jets dont have a huge homefield advantage pretty BUSH really!!!"
jet jeff Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:16pm EDT"I read these comments about bye weeks and seedings, & playoffs, what a joke after that pathetic performance ,winning another game is going to be a challenge, playoff teams have good defenses , ours is terrible at best."
Dave Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:26pm EDT"Never seen so many faked injuries in a game- Never seen so many blown calls and missed calls -Never seen so many overruns of the clock after a play was dead (In the 4th quarter) Very foolish play selection by Sutton- our inside linebackers got shellacked and exposed. In this game ghoulston would have been a better fit inside than Barton. When we are down and need quick scores where is Clowney???"
jtgreeny Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:28pm EDT"im just so disapointed in this team..players and coaches are to blame..whole team effort this time.thank god the pats lost.no pressure on cutler whatsoever.I dont even know what to say..just a bad game..ill suck it up and lets get them next week..o yeah FIRE SUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
saintjohn Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:29pm EDT"Take solace; the jets are just another team (everyone; exception colts) to lose after playing the titans. Too physical, too much emphasis on the titans, and drinking too much of the NY kool aid that you were already crowned AFC champs. Jets; BACK TO EARTH. "
fljetfan Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:40pm EDT"clearly we need a deep threat. tired of BF throwing deep ball int's. every time he does the defense is further down the field then we are no speed and no height with our recievers. give clowney a shot or stop throwing deep its that simple our recievers cant make a play on the ball. ive been sayin it from day1 we have possesion guys not deep guys!"
Ray Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:50pm EDT"My first comment on this is that I sat back for the last couple weeks and mostly just shook my head at all the SB and #1 seed talk going on in here. How we were going to have no problems with Denver, they got embarrassed last week, did you guys think they were going to play like that again? How some thought Ira was crazy for being worried about this game. You guys set yourselves up for this one."
JetsFanInMaine Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:53pm EDT"Watching the game today was VERY HARD to watch for a few reasons the winnng streak, Favre was looking good for over a month, and because denver is not that good. But the loss is a good thing. Get it out before the p word start. "
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:58pm EDT"Drew your kidding right? How can you run the table with these coaches . No 1 I mean no1 can coach in playoffs & SBS with A wad of gum in your mouth... How do you communicate unless he a ventriloquist ... Don't even have a clipboard that's proof he never makes adjustments he gos in with a game plan & never adjusts if its not working we lose... So obvious makes me ill the fans deserve better "
Ray Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:58pm EDT"Mike ex, it may have been within the rules, but don't try defending making this into a soccer match. Shanahan is an embarrassment. First they had to institute the chop block rule because he taught lineman to take out D Linemens knees, now they will have to look into rules to avoid guys flopping all over the field to stop teams from going into the hurry up against them. He makes the game a joke. "
Ray Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:02pm EDT"And finally, I love how everyone bashes the coaches, but hardly anyone holds the players accountable. Hey Elam, how about making ONE tackle where you use your hands? Nice coverage downfield, Cutler throws one 40 yds down field across his body and you can't get there in time to defend? Nice catches by Cotchery and Coles. Another pick by Favre to the same spot he must have six right there.... "
rod Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:05pm EDT"what a terrible game played. i honestly could take the loss, its the fact we got stopmed on that eats at me. this team cant just lose a game decently, they have to get embarassed. its fair to say that if this team is down by 2 or more scores in the half, theyre gonna lose. this team has the worst halftime adjustment i ever seen. and again NO PASS RUSH!!! we cant win w/out pressuring on the QB. "
jay Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:10pm EDT"I don't care what Mangini's demeanor if we win. Fact is he doesn't grab the reins when it is clear we have a poor Off Coord. and the worst D-Coord in the league. We are so "game-plan specific"? Why haven't we stopped a TE all year? And Schotty- when TJ gets 30 touches we win. We did not play well but still could/should have won if coached properly. Denver is dismal and this game made me sick."
Drew Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:13pm EDT"2 things I can count on after a Jet loss. I feel awful and Mike Ex Jet says something ridiulous. Why does the emotion of Mangini have anything to do with the game?He didnt react when we blew out the Titans or after today's tough loss. It's called being a professional. Watch guys like Belichick or Dungy tell me how they act after wins or losses? The only thing weak is your attempt to kill Mangini"
Ray Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:15pm EDT"....Nice throw to Cotchery's feet. We let a 5th string RB look like Larry Csonka. Barton? What were you thinking? And YES, the coaches too. I really believe they think they will outsmart everyone by doing the opposite of what everyone thinks they will do. Two of the worst run defenses and we throw all over the field. Why the Wildcat and no runs on 3rd and 1? This was a TEAM disaster."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 10:23pm EDT"Drew your right the ton of teams that lost were the losing teams all the front runners won look it up .. We're the only front runner to lose today the jets to another decimated team.. Only some1 with the last name mangini can defend this display of uninspired football .. No excuse for losing this game Shanahan made sure he didn't with a crippled team.. we have no leadership no fire its a shame"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 11:00pm EDT"Guess its time to dust off mike the ex again this game was a statement game . Was loud & clear we can't play the better teams or coaches in the league & expect to win when it counts .. Willing to make a friendly wager with any1 of the crew we lose any playoff game were lucky enough to attend cause we won't be hosting any.. We'll be lucky to win the division"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 12:34am EDT"Bet the house if Parcells was coaching this team with the talent here were no worst then 10-2 & no way he would lose to any team with the players broncos had on the field today . Ray doesn't matter what you say about Shanahan he won with the tactics & didn't get penalized he coaches like a lion did whatever it took to beat us .Uses his time to think & read off his play sheet not chew gum "
iowachick Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:01am EDT"Okay, our players and coaches were awful tonight. I worried all season about no pass defense. I am disappointed, but I BELIEVE IN THIS TEAM! They can look at their mistakes and come back and win. Never give up on your team until the season has ended. They may play poorly in a game, but they will always come back as winners. The NY JETS are WINNERS! Go Favre! Go Jets!"
Ray Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:15am EDT"mike ex, you and your comments are a joke. the great Bill P. lost to the lowly Indy Colts in 1998 the year we went 12-4. In week 10 no less. Indy was 1-8 and finished that year 4-12, so you comment already is worthless. As for the coaching you are focused on the fact that he was chewing gum and that means he was doing a bad coaching job? Real insightful analysis."
Ray Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:30am EDT"No need to dust off any names mike ex, I never referred to you as a Jet fan anyway. As I predicted, the first bump in the road and THUD!! The sound of you hitting the pavement after falling back off the band wagon. It's funny when you were all positive for like 2 weeks and Drew kept referring to the haters you said "give it a rest", but now that your back to being your true self, we will have.."
Ray Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 10:43am EDT"...we'll have to listen to your incessant blather non stop. He can't coach because he was chewing gum? He couldn't communicate with gum in his mouth? Coaching guys to lay down and fake injuries is coaching like a Lion? And BTW I looked it up Arizona lost, so I guess we weren't the only front runner that lost. And, believe it or not, it is possible to chew gum AND speak at the same time!!"
FavrefollowedmetoNY Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:23am EDT"The Denver diving was shameful. I will never vote for any Denver player to the pro-ball until everyone on that team is gone. I second the idea of keeping any player who goes down with an injury off the field for the entire possession. Football isn't soccer- we shouldn't reward diving. Silver lining? Chris Collingsworth liking a team is the kiss of death. We're better off when he hates us. "
IAMAYAHOO Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 1:40pm EDT"3 out of 4! thats what the jets have to do in december to win the east. the jets let a game they should of won get by! bad throw to coles by favre... all him. 16 carries for 136 yards and you stop running? bad play calling! a reverse in the rain? poor defensive game plan! 8-4 isn't bad though... they need to win on the road to make the playoff. "
Drew Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 3:13pm EDT"Ex.....We just ran off 5 in a row. 3 games you thought we would lose so dont tell me they cant run the table. Heres what bothers me about you....you make it like you should trash the team because you feel bad that they lost. Do you think I or any other real Jet fan dosent feel as bad or worse than you do? Your chew gum complaint is as silly as most of your other nonsense. "
Row Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 5:53pm EDT"It was really hard to watch Coles bail on every ball thrown to him. We should sit him next week in favor of Brad Smith. The guy is always there on ST's, watch the film. Maybe we did need Justin Miller, Law looked like a HS corner. I don't know why Favre wasn't pulled, when he flopped a first down throw 5 yards short, it was time for me to turn the game off. I wish I had.. "
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UtahTim Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 6:28pm EDT"Pathetic defense and offense isnt very impressive either.......the Jets rollercoaster ride is open again."
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