Experience Helps Lead to Road Excellence
Published: Mon, November 24, 2008 - 5:10pm EDT
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: David Bowens, Leon Washington, Brandon Moore, Abram Elam, Tennessee Titans, Tony Richardson
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11/24 — A major chunk of what the Jets are accomplishing this season is what they're accomplishing on the road. The 4-2 record is deceiving because there obviously were some issues and meshing going on through the losses at San Diego and Oakland.
But this current three-game road streak is a thing to behold. Consider that the combined records of the Bills, Patriots and Titans at the time the Jets played them makes this quantitatively the best three-game away stretch in franchise history, and second is not even close. Here are the top four such streaks, including the 1968 finish with the Super Bowl against the Colts, which of course was played at the neutral Orange Bowl:
| Season | Road Opponents | Comb. Record, Pct. |
| 2008 | BUF (5-2), NE (6-3), TEN (10-0) | 21-5, .808 |
| 1968 | SD (8-2), MIA (5-8-1), BAL (13-1) | 26-11-1, .697 |
| 1998 | TEN (6-4), MIA (9-4), BUF (9-5) | 24-13, .649 |
| 1986 | NE (3-2), SEA (5-3), ATL (5-3-1) | 13-8-1 .614 |
I asked a few of the players in their businesslike LP Field visitors' locker room Sunday afternoon to what they might attribute this road hot run. The one common theme was experience and not necessarily age.
Kris Jenkins put on his stand-up hat when he was asked about the gray-haired and -bearded Brett Favre's antics.
"Oh yeah, oh yeah," Jenkins said. "I've got the luxury of playing with somebody that's almost my dad's age. I was watching him when I started growing my adult teeth. When my mom started helping me walk, he was on the field."
That was a popular take on what the Jets of Eric Mangini and Mike Tannenbaum were attempting to do when they added Favre, now 39, along with FB Tony Richardson (37 next month), G Alan Faneca (32 next month), T Damien Woody (just turned 31) and TE Bubba Franks (30) to the likes of DE Shaun Ellis (31), RB Thomas Jones (30) and CB Hank Poteat (31). See if you can get deals with Ensure and AARP, the wags sniped. This gang is all over the hill.
Well, the original Over the Hill Gang didn't do badly, and these Jets are showing themselves game by game to be a different kind of thirtysomething.
"It's not old guys. It's guys with experience," said LB David Bowens, a youthful 31 himself. "You take a bunch of 30-year-olds that are healthy and can play ball, they know how to play, that's not taking anything away from the young guys, but they haven't played enough.
"The thing I like about our defense, the older guys that we have, we're able to see stuff and can adjust on the sideline. We bring something to Bob [Sutton, the DC] and say, 'Bob, I don't like this.' We throw it at the chalkboard and whatever falls off and whatever's left on the board, that's what we've got."
That's not by mistake. Mangini was asked at his Monday news conference a few hours ago about bringing all the different parts together this off-season and he broke into one of his favorite mantras about Jets Core Characteristics. (In case you've forgotten the holy six, they are: smart, tough, competitive, hard-working, selfless, football is important to them.)
"I've really been happy with the group we've brought in," Mangini said. "I feel it hasn't been a mistake, because we proactively search these things out. There's always someone who can give you information and insight about how a player's going to be at practice, in the meeting rooms, with younger players, what his finish is like, is he 'rep-smart' or a 'board learner,' any off-field issues."
Jenkins made the major point, in Tim Carlson's story on the defense that went live this morning and in more than a few other stories today, that the older players got the youngster's attention and "the young guys bought into the system."
And as loosey and goosey as Jenkins and Favre can be, they share the same bottom line with their teammates new and old.
"I think the statement we wanted to make," Jenkins said, "is that we're taking this seriously. We want to be a good team."
A whole lot of teams (not to mention Jets fans and other NFL fans, Jets reporters and chattering heads all around the league landscape) are finally hearing the statement, especially when the Jets show up at their door for a road game.
Long-Distance Leon
Leon Washington, already the franchise record holder for most kickoff-return TDs in a career, has added another feather to his crowded cap. With his 61-yard streak down the right sideline for a fourth-quarter touchdown, he became the first Jet ever to have two 60-yard runs in the same season and the first to even have two 60-yarders in the same career.
Neon Leon had his first 60-yard run on the nose also on a burst off his right side in the second quarter against Kansas City.
Curtis Martin, Johnny Johnson and Freeman McNeil have had two or more 50-plus runs in a career, and Curtis had those pair of 40-yarders in the same game, at Buffalo in 2005. But no one had done what Washington did with the 61-yarder Sunday.
Typically, Leon preferred to talk about his team rather than himself.
"This game was not necessarily a statement to everyone else but it was a statement to us," he said. "We know what we have to do when we get into the game, even before we come into the locker room. If we come in with a lot of energy, execute the game plan, start the game off fast and not let the other team pick up their pace, we can be a pretty tough team to beat."
A Shorter Route
Richardson, best known so far as a Jet for paving the way for Thomas Jones, was still basking in the success of his 14-yard run with an inside handoff from Favre that helped position Jay Feely for his short second-quarter field goal.
"I've had my day in the sun," T-Rich said to anyone looking for him to make a big deal of his longest run in six years. "We called that play earlier in the game but the play was blown dead. It's something they don't expect. I don't think they were really ready for it."
But Richardson had a comeback for reporters who were hammering the infrequent-ballcarrier theme with him on a conference call this afternoon.
"I have carried the ball before," he said. "I had a 160-yard game for the Chiefs in 2000."
That's almost right on. Richardson enjoyed a 23-carry, 156-yard affair with a long run of 33 yards for the Chiefs on Dec. 17, 2000 (coincidentally Richardson's birthday), with all three numbers setting career highs.
And the opponent for that game was the same as the foe for the Jets' next game: the Denver Broncos.
Richardson and Nick Mangold, coming off one of his career games against the Titans, joined Eric Allen for this week's "Paving the Way with T-Rich" radio show, which will be on the site tonight.
Abe's Greatest Hits
Mangini brought up a great stat: Going into the game, Tennessee's backfield tandem of Chris Johnson and LenDale White had not fumbled once this season. But S Abram Elam ripped the ball out of Johnson's grasp and Bryan Thomas recovered to set up the drive to the Favre-to-Coles TD pass that made it 20-3.
"I thought Abe did a great job yesterday," Mangini said. "He had some outstanding tackles, one near their sideline in the flat on Chris Johnson — that was a great play there. He's just a good person, he works the same way since the day he arrived here. And when he gets these opportunities, he's taken advantage of them, which is what you're looking for."
"Inside the Jets"
Tonight's "Inside the Jets" radio show on 1050 ESPN at Charlie Brown's restaurant in Chatham, N.J., has a full guest list. The player roster will include TE Dustin Keller, WR Brad Smith, K Jay Feely and P Reggie Hodges. And the Flight Crew will be represented by Laura D. and Liana.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (60)sal Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 5:55pm EDT"I dont know if my last post got saved, Whats going on w/ Baker, and Harris. Cutler is going to be tough. The secondary still has something to prove, Think this game is why they brought Law back. Cutler may have the best arm in theNFL"
Alan Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 6:21pm EDT"In 1998's AFC championship game I had tears in my eyes believing the Jets were going to the Superbowl, winning 10 to 0. We all know what happened after that. Today, that feeling is creeping back into my head. Maybe the Jets can do it! It is definitely not out of the realm of possibilities now!"
jak, 17 wk jet fan Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 6:41pm EDT"i hope mangini wins coach of week for this one.after the unfair gb winner last week.favres 2nd trip to superbowl the young qb met a graybeard qb named elway ,whos late game heroics won that game. got both bretts sprbwls on tape and no matter how i try i cant change elway outcome..graybeards can do it. "
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 6:41pm EDT"Randy.... whats the new trend today's 30 is like yesterdays 20 guess the guys are proving it .. Not like us buggers our 50s are like there 60s ."
Peyton from WI Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 6:53pm EDT"Randy, GREAT article. (The holy six - smart, tough, competitive, hard-working, selfless, football is important to them) In the last 7 of 8 games the Jets played smart, got tough, focused/worked hard, enjoyed others success, and showed all Jets fans a team effort. Missing is, They all LOVE playing the game. Which makes us, as fans, love to watch and listen to them. Keep it up, GO JETS, get it done!"
Peytom from WI Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 7:08pm EDT"Yes, Denver is going to come to "THE HOUSE" and want to win. It's a must game for them. We could hold them under 100 yds rushing, but we need to stop Culter on the long ball. I bet Denver will run 20-25 yds passing routes on 1st & 3rd downs. Add play action 1st and 2nd downs to keep our D in their lanes. (part 1)"
Anonymous Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 7:11pm EDT"(part 2) Even though Mangini relies on the short pass, during practice he'll have the secondary work on coverages. Our secondary will be tested this Sunday. I don't see us loosing, but we can't let this game slip away. Jets win 34-24, Go Jets, get it done!"
Susan Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 7:29pm EDT"Tell you what, Green Bay will trade Thompson for Favre. How bout it?."
kimosabe Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 7:43pm EDT"Our older vets are super..for sure...but Mangold ..is the best C in the league !!"
Drew Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 7:53pm EDT"I do not fear this game or Denver and their horrible defense. I would usually be scared of this game but this team is different and I have been saying it for 2 months now. Denver cannot stop our run game and they cant run it. B Marshall and Cutler will makes some plays but they are not walking into our stadium and leaving with a victory. Relax Jet fans were about to make some noise!!"
Howard Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 8:13pm EDT"great win sunday,its good to know how these players have respect for each other and they know when to joke and when to be serious,randy heard coach at his after game presser give a get well to m canazzaro,i noticed he hadnt written for a bit in the post is he ok and if you speak to him give him a jets fan get well please,i enjoy his articles in the post thank you"
Randy Lange Said:
"Howard, Mark is ill but I know he wants to get back out on the beat as quickly as possible. I'll pass along your good wishes to him."
Don Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 8:24pm EDT"Randy i have a question how much salary cap do the jets have and how much do you think leon will demand.... i cant imagine us not signing him for a long deal?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Don, I have what's called plausible deniability in the salary cap area. I used to have to know these things when I was a beat writer, but now I don't, so I can't help you. But I'm sure your fellow fans and the writers and columnists still covering the Jets will have some opinions on your questions."
Jeremy Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 8:38pm EDT"Excellent article. Nice to see Shotty & Sutton both have beautiful game plans and the players executed perfectly! Props to Mangold & Front Line and Jenkins & D Line! Mawae & Haynesworth got dominated! Leon showed why he needs a huge Contract! Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon now--just keep playing complete solid football we love it. Beautiful-I was so happy showing up to work today! "
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 9:16pm EDT"Sal... your right Cutler has a g8 arm there O-line don't match up to our D-line no running game to speak of pretty sure we can take them barring any stupid turnovers .. We got this sleep easy this week "
Ira Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 9:32pm EDT"Randy, Great stuff as always. I recall those Curtis's runs in 05 at Buffalo. Thats the game right after Vinny came in and beat the Bucs. And that J.Johnson run of 90 yds was on Throwback Uniform Night vs the Bears back in 94. Johnson just ran out of gas and the Jets ended up not scoring after that run. Boy were those Bears uniforms ugly. The vets will be huge to this team down the home stretch."
Kevin Magee Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 9:39pm EDT"I havent always been a N.Y. Jet fan I'll admit it but I am now. Brett brought me here but I gotta tell you,...this is a TEAM. There is no one person that puts himself above the team. I will continue to be a Jet fan after brett retires. This is a great website and the articles are written without the politics like the Packers and the cowboys have. Very well written and always on the money. Thanks"
Kevin Magee Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 9:44pm EDT"We need more space to write on here,..I think for denver we should go out of the power i formation and let brett scorch them w/ playactions and power sweeps."
Drew Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 10:09pm EDT"What a suprise to J McCariens dropping balls. Where have we seen that before?? Actually saw Gholsten rushing the passer a little. You can still see he is thinking. He continues to try and bull rush on everyplay. Let him continue to learn. I know it's under the radar but Pouha and Mosley have been playing well.... I also continue to be proven wrong on Elam. He is so much better than he was in 2007"
Jets1/12/69 in SC Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 10:10pm EDT"I was born the day of our Superbowl win, and wishing for a 40 year anniversary/birthday present. This is the best I have felt about our Jets! I say all the time, I will cry happy tears if we make it all the way and my wife doesn't get it. As she says "you didn't cry on our wedding day!", I just tell her it's too hard to explain. I did cry at the birth of our 3 kids, this will rank as my #4(ironic)"
steve, from hattiesburg Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 10:44pm EDT"Jets fans can have confidence that this run is no fluke. With these older players we can be assured that they will not come out and "lay an egg". They know the importance, and will not be a team that "does not show up". They might get beat, but they will not come out "flat". This is a REAL run at the post season."
Zartan Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 10:51pm EDT"all i can say is this is our season to shine.I said all season that we are going to the Spr Bowl(a vision i had).hope the guys can put it together and win it all.on another note,can some one plz tell me why our Cbs play so far back on coverage and lbs watch the run too tight in.I really need some one to explain this to me.I tierd of big pass ganes on this team."
Glen Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 11:20pm EDT"Very appropriate title to the article. This Jets team is dominating through a combination of brains and brawn. Mangini encourages feedback from his players, and adapts the game plan accordingly. Only a man who is very intelligent and emotionally secure can adopt this approach. "
Xavion Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 11:27pm EDT"Mangini Should get coach of the week but we will get snubbed again watch it go to Belichick for figuring out how to not get beat 2x by the dolphins. Go figure.. Or it will go to cable for beating the broncos"
chekov Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 11:47pm EDT"I am so glad gb, who just lost, gave us brett favre, Instead of him leading them into the playoff and superbowl, we are going!!!!!!!!!!! thanks Mike and ted you drop the ball on this one. go jetsssss and bring on denver."
Carlito7 Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 12:05am EDT"As a life long Jet fan, I would of loved to had a win in Oakland. They have been a thorn in our side for a long time, but in the larger scheme of things I truly believe that lost is going to keep us grounded and focused on “never underestimating your opponent." This is our time."
BigEd Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 2:51am EDT"What a game! Clicking on all cylinders. Scary part is we're gonna get better! Love the fact our offensive identity is we can do it all. You never know what you're gonna get from us until we line up for the first series. Very cool. Very tought to game plan for."
uncle joe Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 6:40am EDT"Denver's Defense is not the greatest in the world.Plus we are at home.Our crowd will probably be insane.Four o'clock game leaves plenty of time for fans to get nutty.Long drives will keep Cutler off the field and this one should be smooth."
Randy Lange Said:
"Nice turn of phrase, Uncle Joe, "getting nutty.""
Ira Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 7:33am EDT"One thing i think i forgot to mention is that Thomas and Elam each had tackles that saved a TD. These are very exciting times for the Jets. And its great to dream about the big game. The papers today are off the charts. Eric can't let the players get caught up in this you know what talk. Please lets all just focus on the Broncos for now. GO JETS!!!!"
Chad Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 9:21am EDT"As Brett put it in the new conference...It's a great team start... Many more to go.... GO TEAM JETS!!!!!"
Ira Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 10:01am EDT"unclejoe, You should be right about Denver but be careful. Don't like playing teams that just got blownout plus their passing game is not a good matchup for the Jets. If they can't get to Cutler this could turn into a shootout. You don't want that to happen. Jets need another game were they control the clock."
flwipackersjetsfan Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 10:05am EDT"It is fun to watch the Jets team have fun. I watched the Packers have fun for 16 years with Favre and now I see the same enthusiasm, little kid attitude in the Jets. Favre brings a different attitude to a team and the Jets now have it. Enjoy the ride Jets fans! Packer fans are not having fun anymore."
uncle joe Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 10:09am EDT"I'm learning Randy!Hey,it's really cool to see Our new GreenBay fans who crossed over & their perspective on the team.Being a fan for years we usually look at other teams and imagine how great it would be to have that.Having fans that never really watched the Jets before speak so highly of our team is really awesome,& again you fan crossovers are welcomed for as long as you want!"
uncle joe Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 10:27am EDT"Hey Randy,How can someone sit near a watercooler and represent our team to a Giants Fan and not realize that NICK MANGOLD IS IN FRONT OF HIM?"
Anthony Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 10:49am EDT"I will be at the game this weekend and I can't wait. I think we have to run all over Denver if we will win. And our secondary has to be tight besides that keep showing the heart this team has been showing so much this season. That never give up attitude is paying off. I think by showing emotion I have not seen in years from this team is not only uplifting to the Players but to the fans as well"
MikeMc Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 10:52am EDT"UncleJoe, The NFL should prohibit 4:00 Jet games, because of the Nutty factor. I never get nutty because I make excessive trips to the men's room, & miss alot of the game. I think the Meadowlands will open the gates 5 hours before kickoff."
uncle joe Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 11:07am EDT"Hey Drew,amazing how Mangini is a Genius again.People mad because he got snubbed for coach of the week against Pats,screaming for it this week.Shotty being mentioned as a head coach again,Suttun is great!How bout a Great big "I TOLD YOU SO"from you.I still feel turning point of the season was Westoff's return.Special Teams is such a momentum changer it's unreal!"
Ira Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 11:22am EDT"The Jets are avg 29.4 pts per game. If they continue at that pace for the rest of the season they will end up with a total of 470 pts which would shatter the two other highest amounts. 1998 -416 and 1968 -419. Just amazing."
steve, from hattiesburg Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 11:23am EDT"Ira talked about the papers and press getting caught up. With the older and experenced players , we have less to worry about. Believe me, Brett will not be happy till the Sup.... not going to say it!!"
Rob Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 12:18pm EDT"Its great to see JETS playing as good as we are, and everyone is part of it which is awesome. This will definitely help us in longer stretch. Can't wait till our offensive line, TJ and Leon run all over broncos. As much as I have critized brian schotty in past, I have to give him his props after seeing offense run over Titans."
Doug Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 12:48pm EDT"What's up again Randy! What a fun season this has been! Just curious about the kicking situation. Mangini isn't seriously considering putting Nuge back in the lineup is he? Seems to me that Feely is as much a part of this season as anyone. Do you agree it would be a mistake to change the kicker at this point in time, even if Nuge is 100% healthy? Thanks and take it easy."
CFU Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 12:58pm EDT"Like many have predicted I to was really confident that the Jets could be the Titans. Denver will give us trouble this week after that loss to Oakland I'm sure Denver is fired up but Gang-Green will prevail. It's going to be a shoot out. Mangini keep doing what your doing because it's working. Don't let the boys get over confident still a long way to go. I won't speak SB yet but for once wecanhope"
kaya Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 1:24pm EDT"I agree Ira. The players just need to keep focusing a game at a time. These reporters are going to Jinx us. They need to stop and let the players play thier games."
Tom Spicer Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 2:11pm EDT"Pack 5 & 6 Jets 8 & 3 I think the Pack knows they made a mistake by trading Favre that is for sure you can have a 1st rd pick we will take the championship On a side note even with the trade for Favre we still have 9 draft picks for next year also I am worried about the game this weekend if you asked me what is the Jets 1 weakness I would say defending the pass & that is the 1 thing Denver does "
Russell Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 2:48pm EDT"As a diehard JETS fan, I don't want to get to excited about the future of the team. Remember the 1986 season, the 1998 season and you'll see what I mean. First things first, beat the Broncos this week. Control the offernsive and defensive lines of scrimmage, create turnovers and don't turn the ball over. The JETS and us, their loyal fans, just need to focus on this Sunday's game vs Denver."
Row Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 3:01pm EDT"We need to contain Denver's receivers, this will be a chore. I don't know if anyone noticed, but they re-signed Bell, so running the ball will be easier for them. This is just as important as any other game. Pass rush is key, Cutler has put up some big numbers this year, he also is a running QB at times. That said, I think we can run on them, and the play action pass will be fun to watch. "
steve Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 3:13pm EDT"My main concern is when will david harris be back in the line up and when is clowney coming back? these two studs are only bonuses to a strong roster and clowney provides that quick deep threat we dont have. Harris the stud in the middle behind jenkins needs to come back as well. just curious if you know how long it will be before they suit up?"
Denise Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 4:04pm EDT"It 's a joy to watch the Jets become a REAL TEAM & I know of what I speak since I saw it happen before-in a small city in WI. Every once in a while U C a player, (& u are lucky enough to have several), who can inspire a group of people to believe in themselves & play better than they or any1 else ever imagined. Packer management didn't value that & they R paying the price- in wins & fans. GO JETS"
Dublin Jet Niall Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 5:45pm EDT"To those of you lucky enough to be going on Sunday, don't forget to bring your A game! Seriously, get it loud early and keep it that way-don't let up even if we have a wobbly start. They're carrying the match here(after a fashion) so I'll be roaring at the tv but it's not quite the same. All us out of towners are relying on you guys, don't let us down. J!E!T!S! JETS! JETS! JETS!"
Frank Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 6:45pm EDT"OH Puleeeeazzz....Mangini in his hard hat will be guiding a D9 right over the Broncos this weekend turning the entire team into a Broncos "Fathead"."
Ed in Tucson Said:
Tue, November 25, 2008 - 10:45pm EDT"Cutler's arm will be rendered irrelevant if his butt is on the bench. I love the Revis line about Sunday's game being the only 1 he ever sat for most of the game. That's the key to victory, keep their O on the sideline, don't be in a hurry to score. I love the idea of killing 1/2 a 1/4 with 1 scoring drive. 40-20=victory should be the Jets' mantra. Controlling the ball for 40 min=victory. Go Jets!"
rick Said:
Wed, November 26, 2008 - 12:50pm EDT"Please! The Jet's barely beat NE, and their BACKUP qb.If the coin toss went NE way the Jet's would have lost that game and be 7-4. The Titans were bound to lose. The Jet's have done nothing special. Don't get excited Jet fans. The Patriots are still the best team in the AFC. If Jet's make PO's, they will face NE. They will lose, Jet's are 2-13 against NE, and NE dont lose twice in a row to a team."
sal Said:
Wed, November 26, 2008 - 1:25pm EDT"I hope ur right Mike, Lowery Poteat. have to stay focused. theyll be picked on Elam is an animal. Lookin for a big game from him"
Tom Spicer Said:
Wed, November 26, 2008 - 2:41pm EDT"Rick, wahhhhhhhh wahhhhh you sound like a baby crying football is a mans game there is no crying in football take your beating like a man. And your backup is not a backup he just had 2 400 yard games in a row stop with the excuses you should be thinking about Pitt who is going to beat you this week you we be 2 games behind us by sunday night 3 if you count the tie breakers THIS IS OUR YEAR "
Tom Spicer Said:
Wed, November 26, 2008 - 2:58pm EDT"Rick we just gave you team a beating & we will give them another one"
MikeMc Said:
Wed, November 26, 2008 - 4:26pm EDT"Spicer you may be right but I for one do not want to see the Patriots again."
Ed in Tucson Said:
Wed, November 26, 2008 - 5:25pm EDT"Tom Spicer, I’m not so sure that Pit will beat the Patsies. Pit is pretty banged up this week. I hate to sound like a heretic but I want the Pats to win this Sunday, we’re better off if Pit loses while we win. That’ll make us the 2 seed in the conference. MikeMc, don’t worry about the Pats, they won’t make the play offs. Jets win big, 35-7, controlling ball for over 35 min. Leon runs wild. Go Jets"
Drew Said:
Wed, November 26, 2008 - 6:33pm EDT"C'mon rick....you sound like another silly fan. Do you think the Dolphins (the team everybody was in love with 2 weeks ago) had a little problem with the "back-up" QB. He lit that team up in a close game. The Titans were bound to lose but they were giving a beatdown in front of their own fans......Take your loss like a man and move on."
MikeMc Said:
Thu, November 27, 2008 - 10:16am EDT"Thats Big talk all the way from Tuscon. Let me say it again " I do not want to see the Patriots again""
packer/jetsfan Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 9:16pm EDT"I have never been on your site until Brett started playing for you. I really enjoy reading all the comments from all the Jets fans. It's great seeing all the supports you have given to #4. Now a Jets fan. I watch all the games here in WI., never missed any this year. Go JETS!!!"
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sal Said:
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 5:52pm EDT"Randy, Denver is going to be a bigger challang Cutler who we had a chance at gettin is going against the part of the team I feel still has something to prove, Cutler may have the best arm in football, is goin to be tough. I think this is the game they brought Law back for. Whats going on w/ Baker and Harris"
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