Hint of How the Second Half 'Shapes Up'
Published: Thu, November 6, 2008 - 3:12pm EDT
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Eric Mangini, Brad Smith, James Dearth, Buffalo Bills, Sione Pouha, St. Louis Rams
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11/06 — Conditioning is one of those things that every NFL coach wants, every NFL player knows he needs, and yet some coaches and players may stress it just a little more than others.
The Jets seem to be in that "stress it more" group.
"We're really emphasizing conditioning," head coach Eric Mangini said at today's news conference. "Everybody comes out of camp in really good shape. Then when you go to three days a week, it's easy to lose some of what you've built up in camp. We stress that all the time."
The coach mentioned the Jets' daily work on two-minute drills, something that one of his mentors, Ted Marchibroda, taught him, is a big part of his conditioning program. A few players had some other thoughts on the emphasis on staying in shape through a 17-week regular season.
"If the offense is working on their schemes and you're not participating in anything, you take the chance and run the field," said NT Sione Pouha, who had an active game behind Kris Jenkins with a batted-down pass and a tackle for loss at Buffalo. "You run to the ball. You just look for different ways."
"I think Coach has taken it to another level, and the guys have as well," said WR Brad Smith. "The leadership on the team gets guys together after practice to do extra sprints. Starters hop in there to do scout team reps. I think that's where the guys have taken it."
And the "11 hats to the ball" mantra that Mangini mentioned last week is another way to work on conditioning. If you're across the field and you run to the ball, you're at least getting in some running.
"It's habit-forming," Pouha said. "You run to the ball, you find the ball. You never know what's going to happen. The receiver bats the ball and it goes in the air. The DB comes up and makes a tackle. It's all about hustle, and that comes down to conditioning. We know you can do it in the first quarter. What about the fourth quarter?"
This is not to say anything about the Bills, who are also known for their conditioning. But the Jets' physical stamina was on display at Buffalo. It had to be for the defense to be on the field for 15:08 of clock time on two separate drives and not give up any points.
"It was good for us," Kerry Rhodes said after the game, "but I was tired."
And then it showed up again in the offense's drive of 8:41 to Jay Feely's pivotal final field goal. That's when the Jets did their best running of the game — eight carries for 48 yards — and converted three third downs.
"The ability of the offense to effectively run the ball last game and in other situations late in the game," said Mangini, "that's always a key."
Pouha had a ready metaphor for the shape the Jets are in for their last eight games.
"Conditioning is the engine of the game on Sunday — think about it," he said. "The more well-tuned your engine, the more you're able to function, the more you're able to think. Once conditioning fails, you start to lose focus, all the extra edge things start to work against you."
"You can't get around it," said Smith. "If you're in better shape than your opponent, you have a better chance to win."
And as long-snapper James Dearth summed up: "I think we're a team that's in very good shape."
"Nuge" Watch
Mangini said "I think there's a possibility" that Mike Nugent could kick Sunday vs. St. Louis, but he wasn't committing to the Nuge's return.
"Mike's been kicking for a couple of weeks now to different degrees," the coach said. "He did some kicking yesterday, kickoffs and field goals, but there's a big difference just going through the process of kicking and getting the right speed you need for field goals. We have to see if he can go through that full range of motion and with power."
Jets-Rams: One "Hall" of a Game
The Jets and Rams will be playing a "Throwback Game" on Sunday.
Don't worry, the Jets are not wearing their Titans uniforms for this one. But the game is being billed as the Pro Football Hall of Fame's "Throwback Game of the Week." Each week during the season, profootballhof.com reflects on one of the weekend’s matchups and the Hall's archives staff combs through the millions of documents, artifacts and photos in its collection to help tell the story of that game and series.
You can find the Jets-Rams file here on the Hall of Fame's site.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (37)Row Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 3:57pm EDT"Fitness is what makes a team, most of the work that wins championships is done in the off-season on a bench or a leg machine, even attached to a parachute improving speed. It takes a lot of heart to be a guy like Brad Smith who is forgotten after a record setting college career. I wish he'd come back to Columbia and hang with the guys. The second we get Nugent we should utilize it! Go Jets"
MikeMc Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 3:58pm EDT"Randy it looks like Elam didn't get the conditioning memo, I bet you could have caught him towards the end of that momentous pick-6. I hope Mangini doesn't bring Nugent back until he's 100%."
Randy Lange Said:
"MikeMc, I'm built more like Kris Jenkins, with a 10-yard burst but no 100-yard speed."
Ira Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 4:27pm EDT"Randy, Just heard part of you and EA talk about Revis. I don't know if anybody has mentioned this yet but you can see were his basketball skills from HS have paid off. On both INT's at Miami and Buffalo he had perfect position and boxed out the WR. Clearly a perfect box out for a rebound skill. And i do think he is the best CB in the league now."
Randy Lange Said:
"Ira, thanks for listening to "Jets Two-Minute Drive" on newyorkjets.com."
zartan Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 4:51pm EDT"did you guys vote for our players yet?Randy,can the jet afford to get D.Hall.I hope so cause i would hate to see him in New England."
Matt Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 5:13pm EDT"What is going on with the Jets, I'll tell you what's wrong... Their letting the Bret Farve thing go to their head. It's like their allowing Farve to coach the team. The Jets offense looks like Green Bay. How on earth could you allow Farve to dictate the offense and that's what it looks like. You have a great runningback and you don't even use him???? Farve just want's to pad his stats."
richard Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 5:46pm EDT"Randy: I came over to the Jets from Green Bay along with Brett. I'm happy to be here, too! (For the same reasons)..I go back with the Pack a long ways.. to Lombardi..and I was close to some of the team of the Starr era. Coach Lombardi was a torturous conditioner fo the team and he had a saying that he pounded out in a way that, to this day, only he could: "FATIGUE MAKES COWARDS OF US ALL!" "
mike ex jet fan Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 7:35pm EDT"Finally I agree with the guys design & install D packages with Murrell- Spenser & Cummings maybe rotate each with the regulars... See which of these guys work strong with Pace & Bowens.. WE need miller in guys believe me hes good when given the chance.. Elam is OK but as u seen Sunday his conditioning is a little suspect still should rotate DBS also"
mike ex jet fan Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 7:49pm EDT"Cont,..... Its very important this time of year to get them playing experience, In case the regulars go down at a critical part of the season, They can step right in .. Harris case in point Have to trust they can play... Good or bad at the moment VG needs playing time so does Miller even if its few plays"
Ira Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 8:18pm EDT"I know it seems that Lowery has hit the rookie wall and he was replaced by Barrett at Buffalo. But in defense of Lowery having Revis on the other side you're going to get picked on. But no one seems to mention that he made a very good play on Evans on the Bills last drive. He stripped the ball and Ellis almost came up with it. Lowery will be just fine in time.Jets 27 -Rams 13 GO JETS!!!!!"
Xavion Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 10:41pm EDT"I think its funny that Lowery is being made an example of after stellar play the first 6 or 7 games When Coleman has been getting beat since game one. Can we please have someone cover the TE or Slot in this game We are making stars out of TE this year Gonzales, Fasano, Fine, "
Jeremy Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 3:22am EDT"Regardless of Lowery starting or not, I'd like to see Revis match up with Avery instead of Holt. Avery seems to be the one that can do more damage. Sounds like Steven Jackson may not be able to go, in which case the JETS should be work on getting VG and others some PT! No Jackson & Revis on Avery & Game Over! Randy, Can we thank Teddy Atlas for some of this conditioning and stamina? If so, thanks"
Drew Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 6:42am EDT"Mangini was hard on these guys in the first 2 years of camp because he had to change the mentality from the previous coaching staff. He now has players that fit his system and clearly scaled back camp this year...something I rememeber Frank was screaming about. This is the year and results I have been defending and waiting for. We need to ride the Buffalo game and make this season really matter."
Drew Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 6:47am EDT"I agree with Ira 100%. Lowery will be fine. He is clearly gettng picked on (Revis) and seems to get called for alot of incorrect PI calls. He is a great tackler and seems to always make a play....even if he is struggling...something everyone's favorite underachiver Miller never did Keep starting him..... At 5-3.....nothing is wrong with the Jets Matt???"
Ira Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 7:41am EDT"Don't worry about this Rams game being a trap game. In 06 after the Jets lost to the Browns[Oak} and beat the Pats[Bills] they went 5-2 with a loss vs the bears and bills. All the other remaing games they beat an inferior team by an avg of 15.6 pts per game with 3 of those games on the road at GB,Minn,and Mia. Eric will not let this team have a let down. They are ready for Takeoff. GO JETS!!!!"
Ira Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 8:24am EDT"Another thing i not sure if anybody has mentioned. In 06 and 07 the Jets had 0 INT's for TD's. Already in the 1st 8 games this year they have 3. Barrett,Revis and Elam. I expect a few more before this season ends. Next one up is for Kerry and Revis has another one coming up too."
zartan Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 9:33am EDT"Mark Chad down as another jet to get better after he leaves.why is that so?it has to be mentality thats going on in the oganization & one that needs to change.I think we have a great team but still feel their underacheiving."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 9:34am EDT" Have to say if there is any player on a football field today who should not be winded it's a DB & we all know it .. If Elam's pick was 1 yard longer he # 1got caught by ML who was 20 yards behind him # 2 he would have needed oxygen... If that's the result of 2 years conditioning Uh Oh"
Frank A Dicesare Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 9:53am EDT"Has anybody noticed how the Jet offense is starting to resemble the Raider offense developed by Bill Callihan??"
TasDog Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 10:15am EDT"espn report jets in the hunt for FA CB d-hall randy can u confrim?"
Randy Lange Said:
"TasDog, no I can't."
fljetfan Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 10:28am EDT"tough decision with nugent. i "think" im more confident in feely, but if there gonna bring him back i say do it this week when the fg's will probably be less crucial then at ne and let him try to gain his confidence. what do you think randy?"
Randy Lange Said:
"fljetfan, that's one of those coaching decisions that I don't have a big opinion on, but I like your "thinking" on the subject."
Frank Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 10:31am EDT"Drew glad to see you acknowledge my heavy criticism on Mangini for beating his players up in camp. The team is responding physically. Depending on how the game plays out Mangini should really limit Jenkins reps this week with the Pats game on Thursday. The same for a few others that are dinged up like Coles and Cotchery. This weekend would be a great time to get Stuckey, Clowney and Smith reps."
Mike Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 12:04pm EDT"I wish we wore our old uniforms from the 80-90s more -- we should do different throw back besides the titans..."
Drew Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 12:14pm EDT"I agree Frank about resting guys but I think everyones whipping boy B-Schott is going to let Favre sling it on Sunday. He will have Cotch and Coles playing alot. ......As to Nugent/Feely does anyone really have more confidence in Nug? He hasnt kicked in 6 weeks and struggled early on. I would just leave Feely on the roster and IR Nugent. I get scared with both of them anyway."
Drew Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 12:22pm EDT"Was just about to post how I hated the Thursday night game but then I was informed that I have to return to China for a week leaving on the 16th.....What a nightmare. At least I wont miss a game this time. Thank god for Thursday night games......LOL"
scjoe Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 1:13pm EDT"Randy, some of the NY papers have NE leading the division at the halfway point, the way I see it, the division records show the Jets should be in the lead. Division records, Jets 2-1, NE 1-1, Buffalo 0-2 Isn't division record #1 tiebreaker for three teams in same division?"
Randy Lange Said:
"scjoe, technically the first tiebreaker for three division teams is head-to-head competition, so the Patriots (1-0) are "ahead of" the Jets (1-1) and the Bills (0-1). But to quote Bill Murray in "Meatballs," it just doesn't matter. Teams with the same record are tied until tiebreakers can break the tie, which usually doesn't happen until Week 17. Now if your point is that the New York papers should list the Jets ahead of the Pats and Bills because they're the New York area team, that's another issue."
Ray Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 1:15pm EDT"I agree Ira, I think Lowery is doing fine, he's just the one they are always going to go after. If we can continue to pressure the qb in this game like we did against Buff. I think he and the others on that side will make some plays. He wasn't even supposed to start so he's gotten some invaluable experience that will hopefully make him better for years to come. Go Jets fleece the Lambs!!"
Xavion Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 2:40pm EDT"I still Think we need another MLB Im not comfortable with Bowens there. They Have becht and MCmicheal I think at TE. I say try VG in the middle he seems to be more athletic and faster than Bowens that or Cody Spencer, Hey Maybe we can sign John Lynch to man it for a few weeks. "
MikeMc Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 3:04pm EDT"Frank I'll go one step beyond , if the jets are up 3scores in the late 3rd/ early 4th I say get Jenk out, I also say his practice for NE should be so light its almost a walk-through. The same goes for Cotch, Coles & Baker, even keep it light with Leon & Jones."
Tom Spicer Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 3:21pm EDT"Steven Jackson has been ruled out this is big for us he is by far the Rams best player "
sal Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 5:22pm EDT"PS i nevere want to see the uniforms from the 80-90's ever, maybe the black and green, that were never worn(that way there wont be a coslett connection). sorry but the Jet logo is sacred to me"
CEDRIC Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 10:18pm EDT"You guys really think this game will be easy dont you? You guys must've forgotten that these are the jets"
ed Said:
Sat, November 8, 2008 - 1:55am EDT"The Jets are undefeated in those Titans uniforms. I think the all white uniforms are not that appealing and the team has a losing record in them. The Jets lost to the Raiders after not wearing the Titans uniforms. Wear the Titans uniforms until the jets dont win wearing them. Ditch the ugly uninspiring all white w/green trim. "
Alex M Said:
Sat, November 8, 2008 - 7:27am EDT"I like those boomer easiason dark green 80's 90's uniforms. they're absolutely ugly in a way, but they're cool throwback ugly, not like the titans uni's. those are just plain ugly and have no real visceral connection to the jets."
MikeMc Said:
Sat, November 8, 2008 - 12:30pm EDT"Alex M ,nice word visceral isn't that a word describing your colon or some other organs of the body? Either way I like it your raising the intelligence bar on this sight."
David E. Said:
Sat, November 8, 2008 - 4:39pm EDT"No fears on Lowery. That's a good corner. Getting picked on is part of his development at corner. I got no worries there. Revis is money on the other side. Rhodes will get his..i loved tat they dialed in a few CB blitzes last week. As far as the throwbacks, the late eighties, early nineties are great! Lets keep flying high JETS !!!"
Row Said:
Sat, November 8, 2008 - 6:08pm EDT"Ira, I'm sorry, but I have to correct you. There is no way the Rams will only score 13 on possibly the worst scored against pass defense in football. (27th in yards) Lowery will look confused when Holt or Avery schools him, and Miller will not be wearing a jersey. I am sorry guys but this one will won or lost in the 4th quarter. I am just being a realist. Go Jets (wish we'd run the ball)"
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Ira Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 3:44pm EDT"Randy, It sure looks like Eric's idea of shorter practices this summer is now paying off. The players seem fresher and they didn't enter the season worn out. Like Randy said for the D to be on the field for 15 min and not give up any points showed a lot. Everybody check out the Jets-Rams file. Some real classic stuff."
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