Another Round of Applause for the Defense
Published: Wed, November 5, 2008 - 12:53pm EDT
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Darrelle Revis, Jerricho Cotchery, Kerry Rhodes, Buffalo Bills, Brett Favre, Kris Jenkins, Reggie Hodges
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11/05 — There's still a very much defensive flavor to the Jets as they begin their work week for Sunday's Meadowlands match against the Rams.
For starters, head coach Eric Mangini announced at his news conference this morning that monster nose Kris Jenkins has been named the AFC's Defensive Player of the Week.
That award, coupled with Darrelle Revis' entry as one of the five finalists for the GMC Sierra Defensive Player of the Week, which we mentioned Tuesday and which fans can vote for here, sums up the Jets' defensive status coming out of the Buffalo game. In fact, Mangini named Jenkins and Revis as the team's co-defensive players of the week.
And Brett Favre in his weekly remarks threw major bouquets at those two and the entire "other" side of the ball.
"The defense is playing outstanding," Favre said. "I've been impressed with the way the guys have played with a lot of energy and a lot of communication.
"It all starts with stopping the run. Kris Jenkins has made all the guys around him better, as we thought he would. I had a chance to play against Kerry Rhodes and I think he's an outstanding safety, the quarterback of the defense. And Darrelle Revis, I told him from day one that he can be as good as he wants to be, shut down whoever he wants to."
The one player Favre mentioned who didn't get a slot in this week's awards roster is Rhodes, but he played a strong supporting role vs. the Bills. Early in the fourth quarter, his balletic PD on Lee Evans in the end zone prevented a touchdown.
And the play that only a few have talked about was Rhodes' run support role in the second quarter. Jenkins got the credit for leading the charge that stopped Fred Jackson on the pivotal fourth-and-1 at the Jets 8, but it was No. 25 representing the "fire in the hole" by beating his man on the run blitz and meeting Jackson for no gain.
"It was definitely rewarding," Rhodes told me today before heading out to practice. "On third down they got a pass on me and Darrelle that we didn't want to get caught on [Lee Evan's 19-yard reception to the Jets' 29]. So on the same drive I was able to get a stop on fourth-and-1 to get it back. Everything worked itself out."
Things will continue working themselves out at inside linebacker despite David Harris' groin injury. Mangini wouldn't go into specifics but didn't sound optimistic about a return to action for Harris against the Rams, although he didn't think "the Hitman's" absence was a long-term thing.
"I don't think the timeframe is really set one way or the other," he said. "We're just moving forward, trying to get him back as quickly as we can."
The same can be said for S Eric Smith, whose concussion kept him out of the Buffalo game — and in the process enabled Abram Elam to provide another big play with his 92-yard interception-return TD.
"I'd say it's still pending," Mangini said of Elam starting again. "We'll see how Eric does this week. Abe is a good example of a guy taking advantage of his opportunities. The more playing time, the more he can generate plays. You want those guys to go in and make an argument for staying on the field."
More Honors
As is his tradition on the Wednesday after a victory, the coach revealed all of his players of the week for the Bills win. On offense, Jerricho Cotchery took the prize — and he talked with Eric Allen, whose story on J-Co will appear on newyorkjets.com later this afternoon. The special teams chalice went to punter/holder Reggie Hodges, and the practice player of the week went to Kareem Brown.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (41)Medstar Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:15pm EDT"I am very proud of our defense and i think that Abram Elam should start for us"
Ira Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:35pm EDT"Randy, Glad you gave Kerry his due. Jenkins and Revis played lights out. And Bowens settled down after missing the opening Bills play with Lynch. Would love to see the Jets jump on the Rams early and just maybe the 4th QT some of the starters can get some rest which would be a good thing since they're playing 4 days later. Elam needs to stay in the lineup."
Mike Lincoln Jones Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:38pm EDT"REGGIE HODGES FOR MVP.. GET THAT MAN ON A 10-YEAR EXTENSION. "
Howard Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:39pm EDT"congratulations to big jenks on his award,and vote for revis the whole d deserves the dpotw after b-lo"
Ira Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:40pm EDT"Randy, With the NFL soon to be playing every Thursday i think it is bad for the game. I understand its all about money but 3 days later playing another game is not good for the players. Its just not enough time for their bodies to recoup. The league needs to rethink these Thursday games."
Row Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:51pm EDT"I want to see Clowney in the slot. Where is Stuckey? Kinda weird how players disappear week to week in this offense. Brad Smith is sitting for no reason. He continues to develop on ST's and always runs hard. Forget about rewarding players, we barely had one TD last week, and that was negated by Favre throwing a pick 6. Offense must change identity to run first, beat the coverage second. W/Clowney!"
jak,ex packer fan new jet fan Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:53pm EDT"our run defence is great ,and pass d is improving, i dont think will see the big scores like sd ch and az cards had against us until perhaps the playoffs,and actually i think we can go 5-3 for the last half making jets at least 10-6 for sn.] if key players remain healthy .its exciting to be rooting 4 new team. leon , jenkins. revis ect coles is a good reciever him n brett will get it going again"
pat Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:59pm EDT"our d is good but we should pick up DeAngelo Hall who was just released by the raiders get and were set "
Ira Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 2:13pm EDT"TonyC, Your not wrong. All players can always look to improve their game. Coleman has 27 tackles at the halfway mark which is only about a 1/3 of his 07 total of 90 for the year. But he is playing a different roll this year i believe. He needs to take on the LT and hold his gap so Pace can follow behind him and get to the runner or QB."
Young Jet Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 2:27pm EDT"i say we pick up Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila kenyon coleman is doing nothing at defensive end, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila just got released by green bay and would be a great addition, plus he has a great personality, he would become a great addition and would do wonders for our already number 3 ranked pass rush. Does any one agree with me?"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 2:47pm EDT"Yeh, with all these sacks and stuff you tend to forget all the little things that Rhodes does that makes him GREAT.I've noticed him alot at the line on these short yardage downs.He comes around that corner so quick to stop the run.He's done that alot of times this year."
scjoe Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 3:09pm EDT"Don't know why the Raiders released Hall, probably off the field issue, which our front office stays away from, but he would definetly upgrade the secondery which is probably our weakest link on defense. A weak secondery is not a good thing with the Rams coming in. I think we will see Clowney make his first appearence in the NE game next week."
Drew Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 4:08pm EDT"The Raiders released Hall because he is horrible He has been overrated for years. Our front office should stay away from him because of his on field issues. They will probably release J Walker who hasnt lived up to his bloated salary......Kerry Rhodes is still the star of this defense. He has made a handful of game-saving plays this year. It's nice to see guys like Jenks and Revis becoming stars!"
Troy Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 4:29pm EDT"This is the 2nd person Iv'e read that says K coleman is not doing anything ,I say you dont know what the hell your talking about ,this guy is the other reason with K jenkins that the run d is stout ,d-ends in the 3-4 are not expected to be sackmasters ,K col does is job perfectly so let the KGB washed up comments go if he was that effective GB would not have cut him. d hall out oak.we need"
monte Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 4:40pm EDT"GET HALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Jack Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 5:06pm EDT"I say try out Gholston at DE, that is his natural position and your right coleman isnt playing that well and with the way bryan thomas is playing Gholston will never get a shot. we spent 50 mill on him i would really like to see him there"
JOHNNYJET Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 6:16pm EDT"HEY RANDY- ANY NEWS ON HALL WHO THE RAIDERS RELEASED AND KABEER GBAJA-BIAMILA WHO THE PACKERS RELEASED- THOSE 2 WOULD BE GREAT ADDITIONS TO OUR UP AND COMING DEFENSE!!!"
Randy Lange Said:
"No news here on DeAngelo Hall or Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, JohnnyJet."
tfrank Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 7:34pm EDT"Hey Randy, do you have any update on the return of David Clowney?"
Randy Lange Said:
"tfrank, I have no update on David Clowney, but Brett Favre had some interesting comments about the speedy WR. You can hear Brett on the video of his news conference now or you can wait until midnight and read Favre's answer in the transcript of his remarks."
Drew Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 7:46pm EDT"Some fans continue to have me scratching my head. K Coleman is playing pretty well.His job is too hold his blocks and stop the run. Things he is doing for this defense. Jenks is breaking down the middle which has freed S Ellis up to get sacks. VG cannot play 3-4 DE people. he is 255 lbs. A 3-4 defense needs big DE's We have 2 in and Coleman. Case closed!!"
Drew Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 7:49pm EDT"Some what out of charecter Mangini spilled the beans stating that Harris might be out for a while. It sounds like this groin will keep him out for a few weeks. Not great news but as long as Jenks is eating up the middle we might be okay. Would love to have Harris back by the NE game. We will need all of our troops for that game. "
Donovan Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 8:33pm EDT"Ok if Mangini starts Eric Smith over Abe Elam im going to be heated. It wouldnt make any sense. Elam proved he can make more plays than Smith. What has smith done this season besides get a pick off a tipped pass? I wished his suspension could have been longer! Revis is a beast and so is Jenks. Pick up Hall please. Him and Revis in the same secondary could be dangerous. and then we still have Dwigh"
Greg Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 9:52pm EDT"Our defense is great against the run because we can not stop the pass. We need to go and get D. Hall since is was released and it will improve oue secondary tremendously."
BP Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 10:28pm EDT"Are the Jets working to improve their success in the red zone? Last week wasn't very good at all in that category."
CEDRIC Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 11:11pm EDT"Fellas, we dont have enough under the cap to sign D-Hall, he woiuld be a great addtion, but you have to question if he would fit the Mangini core values, he's been know to be a loose cannon."
CEDRIC Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 11:16pm EDT"I've High on Elam since last season, his play is no surprise, the problem with the pass defense has been with the linebackers in coverage, we need to be slighty quicker up front to close the pocket, we can survive with the corners we have."
Gavin Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 11:24pm EDT"Randy what is your opinion on this, I really think that Gholston and Keller should get more playing time. Especially Gholston since he was the 6th overall and getting paid 50 mil. Move him to Coleman's spot at DE. I don't know what the Mangenius is thinking. Also I think that the Jets should sign Deangelo Hall. Lowery is getting abused out there. Sign D-Hall and shift Lowery to nickle so he learns"
tim in nj Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 11:57pm EDT"Rhodes' pass defended, which Randy mentioned, was "vintage Kerry." I'm also looking forward to seeing Lowery get a couple of picks this second half of the season. This defense is consistently a pleasure to watch. Who thought we'd be saying that about the '08 squad a year ago?"
Ray Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 4:00am EDT"I was interested in D. Hall like everyone else...........until I read the following from NFL.com. "In his eight games in Oakland, Hall was beaten 40 times for 552 yards on 66 passes thrown his way, according to data compiled by STATS LLC. He gave up more yards than any defender this season and was tied for third worst in catches allowed." Still think he would be an upgrade?"
Upstate Mike Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 5:15am EDT"This defense is one of the best we're had for years now. But now they gotta get mean. They have to play with a chip on their shoulders, and smash people in the mouth. The whole team needs to step it up and really pound the heck out of the other team. There can't be a let down this week against the Rams. The Jets have for years played down to lesser teams, and better for good teams. GET MEAN!"
DaveBleedsGreen Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 8:44am EDT"Hey Randy, now that DeAngelo Hall is a free agent, do you think that Tannenbaum will be looking to complete our already almost solid secondary by signing him? Imagine Revis and Hall at the corners and Lowery working the 3rd corner with Rhodes and Elam? Thats how to stop the pass and the run."
Randy Lange Said:
"DaveBleedsGreen, I don't have any insight into what the Jets are thinking regarding DeAngelo Hall. But as it reads on a wall here at the Atlantic Health Training Center, "Every Rock, Every Day." If there's a player that Mike Tannenbaum and Eric Mangini feel will help the Jets this year, they'll bring him in."
Charles D Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 10:10am EDT"Guys, We don't want D-Hall because he is a "head case" and would disrupt the Chemistry of our team. I think one of our competitive advantages is our team-chemistry and this intangable asset will be very helpfull in big game situations such as a potential play off run. What do you think Ira and Randy? Charles D Go Jets!"
Xavion Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 11:27am EDT"all I have to say is D Hall cant be any worse than Drew Coleman, I went and watched the game again he had about 10 bad plays in the Buffalo game alone. Him and E smith have to be both shopping at the same shoe store both play like they have flat bottoms on every play falling down. Keller also had a bad game against buffalo"
sanman ftball59 Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 12:00pm EDT"This team has probowl plyrs. Not 2 mention super bowl experience. there is enough talent on this team 2 go far. The Jets can challenge the div. if only they believe they can. Each plyr is coming around and the team is jiving right. The next few weeks will show if they think they can strive. just remember Jet plyrs, coaches, and fans....be dangerous, and unpredictable...and make a lot of noise!!"
Drew Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 12:52pm EDT"3 things you fans have to understand.....1) We are not signing D Hall. He is a horrible CB. He was cut from the Raiders because of money and he's horrible!!! 2) Kenyon Coleman is doing exactly what he is supposed to do. His job is not to get sacks. It's to stop the run. Ellis, Jenkins, BT and Pace has plenty of sacks. 3) Gholsten cannot play 3-4 DE. He is 255 lbs people. Please do some homework"
Kevin Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 12:52pm EDT"D-Hall would be a good pickup for a halfway starter at a possible contract next year his attitude has changed but he has had a lot of on and off the field issues in the pat he would be a significant upgrade to our nickel spot or to give lowery or revis a breather but he is def not a "WE HAVE TO HAVE HIM" player we have good CB's starting he would just sure up our nickel spot"
Row Said:
Thu, November 6, 2008 - 3:40pm EDT"Gholston's contract was conditional 40 mil (5years) with 20 in guarantees says NY Daily News. Just to show everyone how horrible the pick was, Darelle Revis contract was 30 mil for 6 years. I am sorry to say, but VG is a huge bust. Probably the worst first round pick in 20 years. Take a look at Mayo. Elam will start guys, chill. K. Coleman is an amazing player who is doing exactly what is asked."
Patrick from PA Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 11:41am EDT"Take it easy on Gholston, Everyone adjusts differently to the NFL and he needs time to make a very difficult transition. We all want to see him out there making plays but give the man some time. He knows he's struggling so that is why he reached out to Lawrence Taylor. Worst in 20 years? Hardly, I think Browning Nagle takes that award. "
Patrick from PA Said:
Fri, November 7, 2008 - 11:47am EDT"Correction, Browning Nagle was our first pick in the 2nd round in 91, so I have to change my selection to Blair Thomas or Kyle Brady. Also, don't forget to vote for the pro bowl, you can vote as many times as you want: http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot?icampaign=TR_ProBowlBallot"
rich Said:
Sun, November 9, 2008 - 2:10am EDT"gholstons only considered a bust because nfl fans thought he would be a monster getting to the backfield. we had no idea that bryan thomas and the rest of the defense would be doing this good. and remember hes played defensive END in college. not linebacker so he definatly needs time to adjust. in my opinion i think gholston should go back to end and rotate every couple plays with kenyon coleman"
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TonyC Said:
Wed, November 5, 2008 - 1:15pm EDT"Kerry Rhodes is a pivotal piece to this defense performing the way it is even though his stats don't reflect it. It might just be me, but of all our defensive players that need to step up, I would say K. Coleman. It seems in every game I never see or hear his name mentioned. I'm sure Ira will correct me if I'm wrong."
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