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10/31 — We know the Jets’ recent history in Buffalo. The Green & White have won just one of their past five meetings with the Bills in Western New York and they’ve ordinarily been slow starters at Ralph Wilson Stadium.
You’d have to go back to 2003 to find the last time the Jets struck first in Orchard Park. Doug Brien’s 38-yard field goal gave them a 3-0 first-quarter advantage, but they’d eventually succumb to the Bills, 17-6, as Travis Henry ran wild for 169 yards and a touchdown.
Much has changed since — Henry’s no longer in the league and just pleaded not guilty on Thursday to federal cocaine trafficking chargers. The coaching staffs and personnel are dramatically different. But the importance of getting off to a good start is no less significant.
“We have to get up there and just keep the game close,” says veteran defender Shaun Ellis. “Don’t allow them to just jump out on us. The last couple of years, they’ve gotten a quick start on us and we’ve been forced to rally back. Roscoe [Parrish] hit us with a big passing play early in the game two years ago. They always jump on us early, so the key for us will be to do what we do: don’t turn the ball over, stop the run and just keep the game close.”
Last year the Jets were able to do that and actually entered the third quarter in a scoreless deadlock. But the Bills got a Marshawn Lynch TD run in third quarter to take a 7-0 lead and they eventually captured a 17-14 contest. Parrish (as Ellis alluded to) scored a minute into that ’06 contest before the Jets rebounded and took home a 28-20 W for then-rookie head coach Eric Mangini. The Bills also gained quick 7-0 first-quarter leads in both ’05 and ’04 in taking 27-17 and 22-17 decisions respectively.
“Buffalo plays great at home,” Ellis said. “The fans really get behind them and they make it hard for us. They don’t beat themselves at home with turnovers or making penalties and stuff. We really have to force them to mess up.”
The Jets, who’ve compiled a minus-8 turnover margin in their past three games, will need Brett Favre to be on his game Sunday. He’s never beaten the Bills in Buffalo, dropping all three of his B-Lo meetings while he was a Packer.
“They are playing outstanding — they are no fluke,” Favre said this week. “It will be a difficult game for us, no doubt about it. It has been in the past. I had gone to Buffalo numerous times and it's a hostile environment.”
Arguably this is the best Bills team the Jets have played in Buffalo over the past decade — the Bills have entered this annual Western New York showdown with no better than a .500 record every time since they were 9-5 in 1998.
“Our young quarterback, Trent Edwards, has come along very quickly,” said Bills head coach Dick Jauron. “He’s playing at a level that has given us a chance to win on every weekend that we’ve played. You clearly need that, too. You really need that guy.”
As the leaves fall and temps drop, November begins with one large football game for this Jets team. They’ve won three of their past four to get to 4-3, but this division game means a two-game swing either way. The Green & White will either move to 5-3 at the halfway point and essentially move ahead of the Bills because of a better division record or they'll find themselves at .500 and two games behind 6-2 Buffalo and possibly New England (the Pats visit the Colts Sunday night).
With all this on the line, the Jets don't need a slow start. It's not that they can't come back from a deficit — come on folks, this team has Brett Favre at the controls. But an early lead would provide a tremendous boost and it would also calm the frenzied fans.
Ellis, a defensive captain and the longest tenured player on the team, says the Jets have to come out swinging
“You have to force them into those bad plays," he told me. "They’re not just going to give it to you, so you have to force the action.”
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (36)jet jeff Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 12:38pm EDT"you cant just say we r not going to get pick-off so lets run more when the other team is stopping you or throw passes to the line of scrimmage like they have been doing every game, you have to let favre throw it and you go with it, protect him well and he can still make plays "
Jeremy Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 12:45pm EDT"Don't see Sutton & Shotty stepping up to the plate and delivering. Mangini and his crew haven't performed in Big Games. "IF you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you've always got." Sutton is going to be so concerned with Evans going deep Edwards is going to hit the short routes all game. Short crossing routes and screens always kill us. On that note-Stuckey needs PT!"
Ira Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 12:53pm EDT"EA, Great post. The is a MUST win for the Jets and like you said they must get up on this team early especially playing up there. The Jets can't afford to drop to 1-2 in the division and get to their 4th AFC Conference loss this week. They MUST win and WILL WIN! The Jets are so overdue for a good complete game in all 3 areas they will get it this week. Keller will have a big game. GO JETS!!!!!"
Patrick from PA Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 1:07pm EDT"They better come out aggressive on both sides of the ball and smack someone in the mouth or this will be a long day in Buffalo. The Billies have a solid O line so just rushing our down lineman isn't going to generate pressure. You have to send the heat and get in Edwards head."
Jeremy Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 1:09pm EDT"NFL leader in Tackles right now---VILMA. Let's keep working on Hybrid LB's that are totally unproven at the NFL level! Better yet, #5 in Sacks---John Abraham--could use that too! Hey, combine the two and that's what the JETS are after--weird how that works out! Did I mention that Mayo is pushing 50 & Rivers 40 tackles each! JETS need to stick with 4th rounders or don't give away the Farm! "
Ira Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 1:25pm EDT"Everybody here includng myself makes all types of suggestions about the staff's gameplan and who should play or not. Bottom line go out and play mistake free and smart football and you come home with a win."
Anthony Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 1:30pm EDT"I like Ellis's attitude he has it right. Come out swinging because in any fight its a punchers chance. And when you get on your opponent don't let up till that final whistle. I hope the Jets can do what I know they are capable of. I feel they need to go to Buffalo knowing that it is within their grasp and nothing is impossible...As a huge Jet fan its now or never...thats what this game is.."
Kurt Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 1:44pm EDT"Just to think if we could have fans like that. We could make a big difference. The Jets don't have the 12th man on defense like most teams in the league do. It's a real shame. They either wait for us to score or for Ed to do his thing. You don't feel the energy in Giants stadium. Anyway, we do need to come out firing and smash some mouths on defense. Pressure Edwards all game and don't let up. "
Ira Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 2:02pm EDT"EA, Here is a great a telling stat. Last year favre was 7-0 in games he didn't throw any INT's. In games that he had 1 or more the packers were 5-4 which is very much like the Jets are right now. If he can stop the picks and the defense can p/u there play they have the talent to go deep into the playoffs."
bleedinggreen Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 2:25pm EDT" we need NO turnovers in ths game..this team is not Kansas City!! Lets play smart football.run it down there throat and play action pass! jenkins and ellis to need to be in trents face all game. A great pass rush will help this weak secondary of ours.we cant afford missed field goals this game will most likly come down to the wire. Im driving 6 hrs to see this game! So they better perform well!"
MikeMc Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 2:25pm EDT"Ira, your right on once again. The players are not being coached to commit penalties & produce turnovers, yet the coaches are blamed. Now is the time for our players to go out & fight, they need to play error free. The play calling would look brilliant if all 11 were doing their job at the same time. I feel good about this Sun. "
robert Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 2:31pm EDT"I've been following Brett this year and i can't believe the conservative play calling. Air it out! In GB I would guess 13 winning seasons out of 17. By far in the top winning %. So why not air it out? Coaches need to pound the O-line and get them blocking. It's a JOKE! I do think the are missing a #1 wr. Coles is not it. JC could be but he needs to run routes better and harder like G.Jennings"
Larry Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 2:38pm EDT"Jeremy. I hated to see Vilma go too. The thing is he didnt fit their scheme.Saying that I think changing their players to fit their scheme was a mistake. As for Abraham he never wanted to play a full season. He was more concerned with his market value than whether his team needed him. The granddaddy of blunders was Kendall, cause Faneca hasnt impressed me one bit. "
Bill Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 3:06pm EDT"You guys are right about that Farve needs to do Play Action, because the Play Action will help freeze the line backers. And Favre should throw mostly up the Middle, because Play Action will help hold the Middle Line backers, which should leave the Middle open, more for the wide receivers. Yes, football 101."
Ira Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 4:20pm EDT"MikeMc, I am with you about this game. I just can't believe this team is not better then they are showing so far. Its not rocket science. Go out and execute and you will win. Get this game to start a run that will take us into January. GO JETS!!!!"
Drew Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 8:24pm EDT"Back in the states boys....I have been out of the mix for the last 2 days. Just saw we signed two players to our active roster....Anybody knoe anything about thes RB from Balt?? Still havent seen Clowney's name anywhere on a active roster. As I stated a few days ago while I was away. This game will define the season. A win and it "could" mean something special. A loss and it's more of the same."
Randy Lange Said:
"Welcome home, Drew. I mentioned Marcus Marson in my Wednesday midday blog and I'll have a Special Teams Saturday blog on Mason and James Ihedigbo that will go live late Saturday morning. Mason is an intriguing pickup."
Drew Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 8:29pm EDT"As most regulars know I've been a huge Mangini supporter. This game can eliminate alot of Mangini doubters. The Bills are a clear favorite as they should be. They very well coached. The direct opposite of what Mangini haters think the Jets have. I've killed Sutton/B-Schott in the past but this game in on my boy Mangini. A loss doesnt kill their chances but a win makes a huge statement to everyone!"
carl Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 10:06pm EDT"This could be a big game for Bret and the Jets .I think this will be a coming out party for the Jets, if Shotty figures out what kind of team the Jets are and sticks with it! This empty back field set every so often ok ,but come on Brets getting killed back there!Where's Marcus Henery 6'4 you can't teach big get him on the field! On D its simple, Get to the Quarterback! contain Parrish Go Jets!"
ScottinAfghanistan Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 10:34pm EDT"Thanks, Drew. I believe in Mangini, and what he is trying to accomplish with this team. I just hope Woody Johnson doesn't read all these blogs and decide to cut bait. I can't take another rebuilding with another coach, who would probably trade our D personnel for 4-3 players. If Tangini have faith in Shotty and Sutton, then so do I. You gotta believe! Pieces are in place. These guys can win!"
Drew Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 12:33am EDT"Thanks Randy.....Just did a search on this kid Mason. He looks like a hungry and elusive runner. A buddy of mine is a big Redskins fan and he was annoyed that he didnt make thier team. Played at small school and ran a very slow 4.65 40 at the combine. A little confused why he is on the active roster. Didnt we have 2 RB's while Chapman was suspended? This roster continues to confuse me. "
Randy Lange Said:
"Drew, when Team A signs a player off of Team B's practice squad, that player must go on Team A's active roster."
Ray Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 2:25am EDT"Yeah the way the rest of the schedule is shaping up and because of the Oakland debacle, this game can be a springboard toward the playoffs or the start of a downward spiral. They didn't come out of the bye showing any better chemistry. Mangini is who he is, your not going to see him get all fired up like Cowher or Ditka. And as for getting these guys fired up, they are pros and they are .... "
Ray Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 2:30am EDT"... heading into Buffalo for a huge game with everything on the line. If they need the coach to get them motivated to play, they shouldn't be on the field, they're gonna get hurt. I put the onus on the coaches for preparation and game planning. Last weeks game plans were terrible on both sides of the ball. Once the ball is kicked at 1pm on sunday, it's all on the players. If they play up to.."
Ray Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 2:43am EDT"their capabilities, then they can win this game inspite of Sutton, Shotty or anyone on Buff. side of the ball. This team hasn't made plays since Ariz. Woody in particular on offense needs to step up and play like a vet instead of a rookie. And on D, a few three and outs would be nice. It is put up or shut up time for THE WHOLE TEAM!!!! Go Jets!! Stamp the Bills!!"
Ohiojetsfan1 Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 7:30am EDT"From watching the games this year it seems that the play calling is poorly drawn up. We don't have brilliance on offense, we don't look like an NFL team at times. Defense is a joke, we spent big bucks on players but did not correct the Sutton factor. He needs to go. If we are going to beat the Bills then we better execute for 4 quarters and be mistake free. Where is Clowney ????"
Frank Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 8:51am EDT"I can tell you right now if Mangini trys to throttle Favre this weekend we will get killed. I said it earlier in the year I'd rather lose games with Favre throwing all over the place than watching the slow bleed we are used to under Mangini. The O-line is not very good and we will not win a boxing match in Buffalo. We need to see new wrinkles in this game the few they used last week worked."
MikeMc Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 9:29am EDT"Frank I'd rather see Favre throw also, I don't want Mangini to throttle him down either, but heres the catch, watch more film or something he can't throw into double coverage like hes been doing, & never be reckless in the red zone can't be taking points off the board. I know there will be INTs but lets make them on long bombs so its like a punt, & lets have a 3 to 1 TD to INT ratio."
Drew Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 12:24pm EDT"Thats the difference between Frank and I. I care about wins Frank cares about be entertained. Should I expect anything else from a part-tine Jet and Giant fan?? "
Frank Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 2:34pm EDT"Well guess what Mickey boy the O-line stinks he is getting pounded every game what do you think is going to happen? How many passes is he chucking up because of the pass rush? Look what happened to Chad and Clemens last year see the pattern? He's already been sacked as much as he was sacked all last year with the Packers. It's amazing he isn't on IR and Tangini is responsible for this product."
Frank Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 2:40pm EDT"Drew what planet did you just return from? Where did I say I don't care about winning games? I'd rather go down swinging than playing not to lose like Mangini...got it? and Mikey Boy if the coaching staff is not responsible for what you see on Sunday and its up to the players to perform why didn't we just keep Herm. By the way Drew did you have the Peking Duck? How was the shark fin soup?"
CEDRIC Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 5:26pm EDT"Hey Fellas, i dont care what we do, I wanna see a good game plan executed with a win. Question: When did it become ok for Farve to throw INTs & not Chad Pennington? Didnt we bring Farve here to win a S.Bowl? How is That gonna happen with 30 INTs?"
Drew Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 6:13pm EDT"I felt like I was on another planet over there. What a mess!! I have said it for 3 days now. This game is totally on Mangini. It's not a absolute must win but it could change the direction of our year from also-ran to legit AFC Eact leader. These are games we got Mangini. These are games why I defend him. When this game is over his coaches and his ability cannot be questioned. He has to step-up!!"
OldRogue Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 7:35pm EDT"MikeMc Said: '..heres the catch, watch more film or something he can't throw into double coverage like hes been doing..' Well Mike, the truth is that one of Brett's many talents is that he can throw successfully into double coverage. He did it several times in the Cardinals game, and several other games this season. There will never be another like him - so let him do his thing."
PurpleFlash Said:
Sun, November 2, 2008 - 1:01am EDT"Hey you guys. I read these blogs and everybody seems to be UNHAPPY WITH SOMETHING or another. Some blame the coaches some don't like the game plan. some want to see more passing. Some want to see more running. HAS ANYBODY NOTICED>>> 1. THE JETS HAVE WON AS MANY GAMES ALREADY AS THEY DID LAST YEAR? That there has been improvement already? (con't)...."
Pranit Said:
Sun, November 2, 2008 - 8:45am EDT"Randy, where is VErnon Gholston? ..is he being payed the multi-million dollars to play special teams? ...at what point would he be declared a bust? ..just what the struggling jets need at this point..."
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Howard Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 12:36pm EDT"the jets have to survive the first quarter fenzie that the bills fans will throw out there,we need to with stand that and then just operate the plan make the bills fan think oh no in stead of us jet fans,figure out the way to winGO JETS"
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