Coach Expects to Have Favre for Arizona
Published: Tue, September 23, 2008 - 6:08pm EDT
By Eric Allen
Allen is the senior managing editor of newyorkjets.com. He is in his seventh season with the Jets.
File Under: mangini, Graham, Favre, Jenkins
09/23 — It appears likely that Brett Favre will make his 257th consecutive start Sunday when the Jets host the Arizona Cardinals.
"He is going to come in for rehab today," said Jets head coach Eric Mangini of his quarterback during a conference call late this afternoon. "We got back at 7:30, 8 this morning. He had some [rehab] at that point and there will be some more here later today, but Brett usually plays and I would anticipate the same."
Following the Jets' Monday night loss in San Diego, Favre walked with a noticeable limp due to a left ankle injury. Favre was sacked three times by the Chargers but got the offense moving in the second half as the Green & White desperately tried to mount a comeback.
At the end of the night, Favre completed 30 of 42 for 271 yards and two scores but his two first-half interceptions led directly to 14 points for the Chargers. San Diego, which got a tremendous 52-yard interception return for a touchdown from star corner Antonio Cromartie to start the second quarter, also benefited from Eric Weddle's pick as Favre and wideout Jerricho Cotchery failed to get their signals straight.
"As we got going especially in the second half, we were able to move the ball really effectively," Mangini said. "The first half there were two very good plays by San Diego. I know the ball was overthrown, but I thought Weddle made a nice play in terms of pulling that down. I liked the things we were doing, but it's hard to overcome those turnovers and those mistakes you have on drives."
The Jets also suffered a big blow in the first quarter when nose tackle Kris Jenkins went out with a back injury and did not return. Jenkins, a 6'4", 349-pound monster, had played terrific football in his first nine quarters with the Jets.
"There were times last night where we thought Kris might come back in. It just didn't quite get to the point where we were ready to do that," Mangini said. "He was close definitely throughout the course of the game, so I'm hoping with time and treatment, that will move along pretty well."
When Jenkins moved to the sideline, reserve Sione Pouha took over in the middle and saw his playing time increase dramatically. The Chargers, who went to the break up 17, essentially sealed the game on their first second-half possession, which culminated on a 2-yard LaDainian Tomlinson score.
"Kris definitely has a presence inside and it's hard when you lose a player like Kris, but some of those runs they were able to hit on us — especially with [Darren] Sproles — those were cutback runs that Kris really wouldn't have been involved in," said the third-year head coach. "To a large degree, he would have been on the front side of those plays."
The Jets had a familiar face back at punter Monday night. Veteran Ben Graham, who was released just days before kickoff, was brought back to the roster after Reggie Hodges wasn't physically set to go.
"Ironically, he had flown to San Diego to work out with Darren Bennett and he was in San Diego late in the week, so he didn't even have to get on a flight," Mangini said of the Australian who placed both his punts inside the Chargers' 20.
On Wednesday, the Jets will be back in Florham Park and begin their preparation for the 2-1 Arizona Cardinals. If Mangini's players can hold serve at home, they'll finish the first quarter of their schedule with a .500 mark.
In all likelihood, the 38-year-old Favre will be ready to line up behind center and lead once again. He's completed 70 percent of his passes through three games with six touchdowns and three interceptions.
"There are going to be some times when you put the ball up in volume, you're going to have turnovers. Brett's made a lot of great plays, sort of ad-lib type plays, and his receivers are getting more and more used to that and I think he's getting more and more used to the receivers," Mangini said.
We'll continue to monitor the status of both Favre and Jenkins throughout the week on the site.
"They'll both be in rehab here today," Mangini said. "We'll evaluate it there and see where we're at tomorrow."
Onside Note
After the Jets scored their second touchdown and cut the Chargers' advantage to 17-14, Mangini elected to attempt an onside kick. The Chargers recovered and took advantage of the short field with another seven points, but Mangini said today he did not regret the decision.
"I would definitely do it again if it were the same situation," he said. "We had six players over there outside the numbers and they had one. We had two blockers for their one player and we didn't execute as well as we should have. In terms of sheer numbers, it was a really good situation."
Practice Squad Departures
The Jets tonight announced they have released P Waylon Prather and TE Brad Listorti from their practice squad.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (81)mo Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 6:57pm EDT"Brett did good last night. A few mistakes but he did the same in GB. Defense was pretty good on the run. LT was not that effective running, and Sproles was not much also. But the passing D. we need to cover better. Also we need to pressure the qb. Rivers had time back there to rebuild Rome. they can practice this for next week because Warner Fitz Boldin combo will eat us alive. Go JETS"
Row Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 7:19pm EDT"Can Elam start Sunday? I haven't seen a de-cleater by our team all year. On to the Offense, what did every sports writer say when we picked up Faneca and Woody? I thought they said the Jets WILL run the ball this year. Where is the dominance between the tackles? Where is the running game? Brian, this Sunday should be your new audition for offensive coordinator. (MNF 47 passes 11 runs) Grade = F"
Pack Fan Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 7:33pm EDT"Please don't get all up in arms about a 1-2 start to the season. After 2 contrasting styles of play calling, Mangini will hopefully settle in on a more balanced attack against the Cardinals. Favre didn't look great yesterday, but neither did his offensive line. If the Jets can go into the bye at 2-2 there is a good chance they can finish the season strong and gel as a team, that is key."
Dorothy Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 7:33pm EDT"We did start to run the ball in the first quarter, but when we got down by so much we had to resort to the pass. I'd like to know why we waited for the 2nd half to come out with 4 and 5 receivers.....it worked pretty well."
J. Tryon Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 7:37pm EDT"the reason we stopped running the ball was because we got behind by so much we got desperate, the only real way to come back after being down by that much is pass,pass, and more pass."
Drew Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 7:53pm EDT"Enough with the onside kick. We have the best ST's coach in the game and he thought it was a good play. I will defer to Westhoff anyday of the week. I didnt love the call becasue it didnt work......Dont coach scared, no guts no glory!!! They made a risky call and it didnt work. "
mike ex jet fan Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 7:56pm EDT"I also had np with the onside kick showed some moxey & gave norv another angle to figure out good plan so it didn't work if it did changes the whole game -- In case u all didn't notice we didn't get close to rivers b4 jenkins went out ? if we have to depend on jenkins every game just to stop the run & he does then every1 will score 40 points on us. westoff your the man WB only bright spot is U "
Drew Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 8:05pm EDT"Here's the facts. The Jets have played poorly in all 3 games. There have been some positives but they have played subpar. Funny thing is we all suspected this would happen!! Just because Brady went down doesnt mean the WR's and Favre would connect in live action after 5 weeks of practice. Everyone stated they would take 2-2 at the Bye and then hopefully go on a run. Has that changed? "
jason Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 8:07pm EDT"turnovers, no offense when it mattered, defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd down. What was all the fuss about during preseason, to me they look like they did last year except they spent a ton of money in the offseason. We better get it together quick or some changes should be made (magenious)"
Same ol' Jets Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 8:10pm EDT"Boy it is hard being a Jets fan. The oline was not even playing on big downs and where is the defense! You think that mangini would turn this team around in 3 years jaron up in buffalo sure has what is this organizations problem. 40 years of middle of the barrel is good enough for them i guess. Favre looked just like chad 2 picks one for six. We never should have got the old man. "
JOHNNYJET Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 8:10pm EDT"TIME FOR THE DRAFT- LINEBACKER FROM OHIO STATE JIM LURINAITIS!!!!! WE NEED HIM BAD!!!!"
Donovan Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 8:12pm EDT"The Jets really need to take Eric Smith out and put Elam in! On a run Elam will stick his head in all the time! Eric Smith is not doing the job. How did he trip on the touchdown in the endzone? somebody let me know! I just dont like him at the other safety!"
Same ol' Jets Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 8:15pm EDT"If they lose to the cards season over and getting all these FA was for nothing. It is like we are best friends with the lions! Stop making excuses for favre! Come to terms with he will be this year and just hope and pray he retires at the end of year. "
Alex Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 8:49pm EDT"I don't think Favre is suited to the jets offense, we would have done heaps better this season with Chad Pennington under center! The defense needs to become more consistent as they played fairly well in the first two games."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 8:55pm EDT"Randy please get in manginis ear, why u ask - If brett can't go even though he will go a few to keep the record alive -- Put Rhatty in hes going to be a reaL GUNSLINGER & has the fire to get it rolling better with him then clemens hes proved that in preseason give him a shot he won't be sorry . hes the next up & comer "
new jets fan Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 9:01pm EDT"You can blame Favre all you want but where was the defense they scored every possession but one.when Favre gets going you will be back on the wagon...it's week three we beat Arizona we go into the bye 2-2 week six is where this seasons favre train leaves the station..."
JetFavre4 Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 9:16pm EDT"Brett will do good for you JET fans--don't worry! Every time they counted him out the past few years, he came right back and made something happen--and don't forget last season! Who saw THAT comin'?? Brett is THE BEST ever! Give him some time to learn yer AFC plays! "
Charlie Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 9:23pm EDT"Farve is Favre, a gunslinger who gambles, isnt that what Chad wasnt. After the bye, chemistry should be intact. About needing Lauranitis, maybe if we dont sign Barton next year but other than that its completely irelavent. Our LB core is fine. We need a dominate FS to be a ball hawk. Come on its Week 3 though."
Howie D Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 9:45pm EDT"With a few execptions over the years, our coaching continues to be our weakest link. Once again, we have good players who should at least get us into the play-offs and beyond, but it ain't going to happen with these vanilla offensive plays. We are too predictable and don't use enough players. Giants and Fins creamed the Pats by being UNPREDICTABLE. We should be 3-0 now. No more excuses...Shott!"
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 10:34pm EDT"Im so sleepy over all the free agents the Jets have invested in the last 15 yrs. I just wish a new coach would come along & build this team w/young hungry players - My favorite player of all time is Ronnie Lott but seems like this free agent disaster started the year he came to the JETS - We always get them at the end of their career - WHY?- Its about young & hungry, NOT experienced & comfort able"
Moshe Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 10:36pm EDT"I said the Jets would have to make a statement last night and they did. But it was the wrong one. Unless they solidly beat AZ next week(I don't think they will), people are going to have to accept the fact the the Jets are not as good as they think."
Moshe Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 10:39pm EDT"...And don't tell me they have an easy schedule after the bye. Who cares if they go 5-2 if the only teams they can beat are the ones in last place? The Jets must show this week and in week 9 against Buffalo that they can beat top teams, because if they can't, they're gonna finish in last place."
Dan Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 10:49pm EDT"As far as Eric Smith I agree put Elam in a little more. But honestly I miss Erik Coleman. I could imagine having him and rhodes rotating with Elam would be nice"
dea Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 10:50pm EDT"I hope Farve plays. Over the years, he gets 'more in the zone' when he's behind or banged up. He thinks less and just plays more. See the play, make the play, that's Farve in a nutshell.(when he is playing well) I still believe Ainge is the future Quarterback for the Jets. Clemens nor Ratliff are not tall enough, nor do they have quick enough releases or strong enough arms to win a super bowl."
Check your Facts Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 10:58pm EDT"Favre is completing 70% of his passes and has thrown 6 touchdowns and you're complaining? Why don't you check the stats of the former QB and see how they match up. By the way it's a fair comparison because they both have had the same amount of time to adjust to a new system. "
spokjet Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:04pm EDT"The Jets looked like they didn't know what they were supposed to be doing at times(about 1/2 the game). Are there scemes to difficult for the players to understand? Something needs to be done to fix that or it's going to be another long painful season. On the side, there are better linebackers out there than Lurinaitis."
Dan Stevens Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:23pm EDT"We don;t want Jim Laurinitis from ohio state, He is overated and has been handled by big time offenses"
carl Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:24pm EDT"Hey guys,the jets had 3 strikes against them going into this game.1.lets face it jet nation Brett has only been w/ us for a few short months.2.west coast game.3 The refs owed a game to the chargers,i saw many no calls!!!!! THE REFS HAVE BEEN INCONSISANT THIS YEAR!!!!!!"
iowachick Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:29pm EDT"Someone is blaming Favre? I don't think you have that right. I was shocked when I saw him on the sidelines surrounded by coaches showing him playbooks. I have never seen Farve like that--in the middle of a game??? As a psychologist I wonder if you are disturbing his natural confidence and making it harder for him . Favre needs to keep his head in the game, not in books. Let him SEE the game!"
mike the ex jet fan Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:33pm EDT"My thought of the day parcells brought us the best year we had in 40 G-men 2 the SB & won NE was a joke till he came look at them now -dallas is 1 of the best in the league thx to him woody should have paid him 100 million for 10 years . we would have saved 42 mil plus the 12 we paid favre add in manginis salary bet we would be the team to beat not the g-men -NE or dallas just a thought idiotic"
matt Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 11:58pm EDT"say what you want about "old man", he is a player, one player and without an offensive line the QB suffers, the running backs suffer, without a better defense you don't win games. where is the defense!"
Matthew Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 12:10am EDT"Dude guy above me, are saying brett farve is doing bad, because he isn't give the guy some time, he just got in there and there is alot of football left, and even if we lose next week which we wont the season wont be over. And after the season we better hope brett farve is coming back because he is a big help in the lockerroom and on the field. "
ralph Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 12:18am EDT"to sameold jet. favre only threw 1 int. the defender on coles made a magnificent play that would of been an int against any qb reciever ever. the jets scored 29 points. i think we need to defend better, .jets have a tough schedule, cardinals r tough and i think there going to be one of the 2 teams this year that will beat dallas.so next week i expect you to belittle favre.3 td drives ,good."
footballdunegan Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 12:59am EDT"what ever happened to john lynch, sign him and the jets will have a complete defense."
Jeremy Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 1:31am EDT"I said it all last year on nearly every post---Fire Sutton, don't wait any longer! This team continues to run schemes that don't work with the personel. Did Rivers even get his uniform dirty last night?? The D gets burned every week on dump passes, screens, and short crossing routes that go for 20 yards. Elam needs to get some PT. NO QB Pressure. I'm Disgusted watching Sutton's D!"
Ken Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 1:35am EDT"DREW. U said. " We have the best ST's coach in the game and he thought it was a good play. I didnt love the call becasue it didnt work.Dont coach scared, no guts no glory!!! They made a risky call and it didnt work. Are you kidding me DREW! The success rate of an on side Kick is less than 5%. The JETS didn't need to take that chance so early! It was a STUPID play DREW!"
BRETTZ GURL 4-LIFE Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 3:38am EDT"WHY IZ EVERYONE BLAIMIN BRETTZ AGE??? HE WAS THE ONLY ONE PLAYIN WITH ANY HEART AGAINST THA CHARGERS.BRETT WAS GIVEN TO THIS TEAM TO MATURE THEM AND TO SET FOUNDATION FOR THE "YOUNGER MEN" ON THA TEAM.A FOUNDATION THAT CAN TAKE THEM INTO THA FUTURE WIT A NEW CONFIDENT SWAGGER.I THINK THESE YOUNG GUYZ NEED A SWIFT KIC IN THA.. THEY NEED 2 STOP LOOKIN A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH,PERIOD! BRETT4LIFE "
BigEd Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 5:15am EDT"It may be time for a new coach...especially when the current one won't admit he made a mistake with that on-side kick. Too BIG a gamble. If it works we get the ball back with a chance to score. If it fails an explosive offense has a short field to go up two scores. Pride the inabllity to admit ones faults; ultimately leading to repeated failure."
aint over yet Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 6:18am EDT"sure the offense is struggling but that was to be expected, Favre dont need excuses, its not all on him, they lost to 2 good teams and when your playing from behind things look worse than they are. We will beat Arizona and go into the bye 2-2 and the easy part of the schedule giving them time to get the offense going. In 16 Favre has only had 1 losing season, so quit the detroit lions crying."
uncle joe Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 6:52am EDT"GreenBay Fans are better Jets Fans than NY Jets Fans.Loved the onside kick & had a feeling he was gonna do that.With Sproles returning the way he had been & a shakey ST it was well worth the risk.Whats up with the practice squad moves,IS MARCUS HENRY BACK?Can Elam Please Play Sunday.If he and E,Smith both play out of position sometimes at least Elam makes up for it by KILLING PEOPLE!"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 6:56am EDT"Maybe Elam can wound and slow down Arizona's WRs and skake them up a little bit.Lowery will be tested early and often.I think he will be fine.Harris needs to step up if Jenkins is out.Come on HitMan make me proud!"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 7:09am EDT"Hey Ira and Drew,about those Bridge comments from last Radar I'd be more than willing to use my EZ Pass to get these people on the Bridge of their choice!"
Dunnie Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 7:11am EDT"Same ol' Jets ... how can you call yourself a fan. you are SO jaded. Favre is a HUGE upgrade over Penny. Also ... we have played three games !!!! There are a ton of games left. Give them the year to see what they can do !!! Jeeez."
Pranit Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 7:43am EDT"wow, talking about the draft already (3rd game)..same old jets..anyway, need to pick up a good QB, a backup nose & safety (eric smith not doing it)...OSU LB is good, doesn't hurt..also need new wide recievers...LC doesn't look interested (on the field) as far as i can tell..does anyone else see this? ..Is he still mad about Chad? Come on LC, grow up..Chad has moved on, can you also please?..."
ablity Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 8:31am EDT"JOHNNYJET u got the right team but the wrong play chirs benne wells"
ablity Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 8:40am EDT"having farve throw 60 passes in this game will be a great ideal, we need to get him feeling like this is his team and the offense is on this arm. he like jerricho had 10 catches that what we need. thomas jones is really showing a decress in speed, we need to make leon washinton our reggie bush and get him about 25 touches a game at every position on offense. let bratt throw untill he gets it"
CEDRIC Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 9:10am EDT"Drew, your right on everything you said, the same ppl who were yelling SB or bust are the same that jump off the bandwagon. I didnt expect us to beat the Chargers, i just like the fact we didnt give up, I hope Jenkins come back, Didnt Pete say he would struggle with the 3-4? Start Elam. Guys, ANY GIVEN SUNDAY, I keep saying but nobody listens. AFC's the new NFC, look at the conference."
CEDRIC Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 9:15am EDT"Oh, did u guys see Cromartie wave to leon on the pick 6, then Leon takes for 94yd on the next play, that was my "in your face" moment of the week. Leon, I hope u play more. Oh, everybody was screaming for Farve to throw more: 14pts for the other team. yea cause we know football, that why we blog & dont coach."
bratt Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 9:32am EDT"My only issue with the onside kick was that the D wasn't playing well enough to handle a short field if it didn't work. All the momentum went to the bolts on that play and we were never able to get it back. As for how good the 4 and 5 receiver sets worked, most teams move the ball well when they're down 3 scores. Opposing D's usually play softer."
Fred Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 9:33am EDT"I agree with both panicking and non-panicking fans... we are a decent team but we need to improve fast... However did everyone see our first TD from Favre to Coles?? Did you see the little window he fit that ball into finding Coles in the back of the endzone? He wasn't even looking at Lav before that.... THAT is what Favre gives us! Chad couldn't do that. OUR D needs to stop on 3rd down!!!"
Michael Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 10:29am EDT"OK - you guys had already run a quarterback sneak earlier in the game. You need half a foot to get the first down. You come to the line showing pass all the way - and then pass. What were you thinking??????"
mike ex jet fan Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 10:42am EDT"Please stop with the onside early--- was a good idea mangini finally showed me some guts. we needed points any way we could get them unless theres a 20 point play I've haven't heard of yet was another way to confuse there D & norv . In case u experts didn't paid attention SD was scoring at will that 1 isn't on westhoff cause that had his prints all over it mangini was right to go end of story "
kk Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 10:42am EDT"Mangini must have a file cabinet full of excuses. ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! The Fins have had more changes on their roster and they kicked butt last week. Hmmm I think they got a new QB when we did, how's that working out. One thing is consistent, inconsistent defense, inconsistent offense but consistent excuses!!!!!"
BIG AL Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 10:50am EDT"i have to admitt i thought favre was going to be alot better then he has been blame the line as well this is a joke because if you take this senerio and think about it how long does it take for all these vets to gel? it looks like favre is breaking down hope i am WRONG but looking at the sched we still have no guarantee to anything i can see on the +10-6 on the - 6-10 look for yourselves not good"
BIG AL Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:00am EDT"10-6 and thats with a sunday WIN, beatingCINCI/OAK/KC/ /BUFF/NE/RAMS/TENN/SF/FINS, but can they go that much in a row after KC ?? yet to be proved 10-6 is a stretch here folks and it still gets us knocked out in the 1st if they even make it sad after so much hope and expectation but this is the JETS hopefully they prove me wrong likejoey porter did to the press on NE .got my bowl of crowe "
BIG AL Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:07am EDT"to shine on some positives looking at the team stats we match up tightly against our opponents, but brett gurl seriously brett threw 6 td to 3 int thats not going to work if we are to succeed and sadly farve is old it happens we took the chance on him on hopes to get the young #4 but time is proving that wrong and the fact is next yr he is out of football so where he takes us will be his legacy "
uncle joe Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:12am EDT"BRETTZ GURL 4-LIFE,and all the other GB crossovers got some nice points.Even Farve said it.This team needs to have some fun.MESSAGE TO ALL OUR WRs: If you happen to catch a TD Pass Sunday we are expecting you to leap into the stands.If its too high get someone to boost you up.We Need Fun.And Elam is the Hardest hitter on the Team,let him start the Hitting."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:21am EDT"BK4 -- the problem---- R the jet fans ? waiting to see them fail What!!!!! if I could suit up & help this team win I'm willing to give the other team base bat bats --wish this team had half the passion for themselfs & the fans as I do 4 them "
BIG AL Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:35am EDT"just read the article by carruci feels the 12mil brett favre is not the man does not buy the transition story thinks #4 is making bad choices and decisions if so he could very well be hurting the o-line also congats we made the bottom of the barrel we are no sitting with rams/kc/oak/det/texans/browns as the worst amazing what 142 plus 12mill 154mill can buy man wish i had some of that excuse money"
Anonymous Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:35am EDT"Put Leon in hes the only one doing anything this early in the season, TJ is good but starting to get worn down by the carries by this time in his career. Leon's got fresh legs and may just be a spark to get the offence clicking a more. give him a chance. "
Hogan Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:37am EDT"Really hope Jenk is OK. It hurt us alot to lose him. Even if he would not have been directly involved he still takes up blocks."
Jerry Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:40am EDT"Everyone was blaming CP last year. Now they are blaming Favre. It's the TEAM, thats why they are called a "team". At least CP understood that much. I am glad chad went to a diff team, maybe a better one. Show 'em what ya got Chad, go Pennington!!!!!!"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:42am EDT"How bout FEELY.3 onside kicks,first one was perfect Wright had it in his hands,2nd one we got back & the 3rd,how awesome was he flying up the middle head on into the SD player?That ball doesnt bounce into him and thats ST play of the week.Cut Nugent,we need room for Chatman & Clowny.Cotchery's return was nice too.Westoff(thank God)is BACK BABY!"
Drew Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 1:06pm EDT"Ken.....My point was everyone was killing Mangini for coaching scared and now he makes a risky call and gets killed. The guy can't win. Also I understand the % but we have a great ST's coach and he thought it was a good call. I am not going to question Westhoff when it comes to ST's. Also the D was playing fine at that point Favre and the O put them 14 in the hole with mistakes."
Drew Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 1:09pm EDT"I wonder if the same fans that are killing Mangini and Westhoff liked when Shanahan went for pts (dumb call)to win the game last week at home against Denver?? Everybody screamed he doesnt coach scared....You fans are why Jet fans get a bad rap.....you're ridiculous!! I am as unhappy as anyone how we looked on MNF but I also understand we can be 2-2 and then make a run win a win Sunday. "
Drew Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 1:13pm EDT"I will add to Uncle Joe's point. Feely had 3 "succesful" onside kicks on Monday. Wright wiffed on the "awful" call by Mangini they got the second and if the ball doesnt hit Feely 1 yrd before its legal they get the 3rd. After the replay we should cut T-Rich and have Feely play FB. What a great hit by Feely to log the ball. Seriously guys if and when we beat Arizona well be okay. "
Steve Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 1:28pm EDT"No offense dea, but Ratty is listed at 6' 4" and 235 lbs. That's not tall enough?"
Row Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 5:13pm EDT"Guys, thanks for jumping on the Elam bandwagon. I still think Miller should at least dress, so he can rotate with Lowery. Drew, I understand the statistics, but game management has been my concern. TJ is averaging 4+, and Leon is averaging a solid 4, that wins games. No team in football can pass block 40 times a game and be successful. We MUST run to give the Defense a rest. "
Xavion Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 6:01pm EDT"Im going to rant abit about what Im tried about with the Jets, The so called DieHards the "I have been a fan 40-50 years and havent seen a superbowl in 40 years" Get over it....Quit it with the "same old Jets" comment was it same 2 years ago or 2years b4 that or in 98 were you saying same things then.. how about same old jets fans" Hell Im only 23 I have never seen them in The SB Im not bitter."
Xavion Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 6:05pm EDT"If you are really tired of 40 years with out a SB do whta everyone else does Jump on the Cowboys Bandwagon... but in the last 10 years we have won more Playoff games then the cowboys played in more playoff games than the cowboys. maybe evn last 12 Randy Check my facts please and How long was NE SuperBowl championship Drought? Lighten Up or Jump of the cliff already "
Randy Lange Said:
"Xavion, since 1998, the Jets and Cowboys have each qualified for five postseason berths. The Jets have played in eight playoff games, winning three, the Cowboys in five playoff games, winning none."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 6:41pm EDT"Ira if I may answer bout us going 6-3 the fans will come running back --= heres my answer I f were lucky enought to get 6-3 that means we beat weaker teams in the league- still with me - then we get -bills- Ne- titans broncos -bills again then seahawks are we gonna be 6-9 maybe 7 -8 or god willing 8-7 if they win half those games then preach to me I will be happy & humble WILL U ?"
football lover Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 7:38pm EDT"I have been reading these posts and have really enjoyed them, however, all of you doomsday chatter is irritating! Brett Favre has the 2nd largest completion % (with a crew he has only know 5 weeks) and has 6 touchdowns (ave 2 a game). How many did you have last year: 15? What is wrong will all of you? I really feel you jinx your own team-self fulling prophecy!! Ridiculous!"
Frank Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 8:34pm EDT"Drew I'll send you some band aides."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Wed, September 24, 2008 - 8:50pm EDT"Xavion your 23 & never seen us win a SB & we the hardcore fans should stops complaining about this team . OK tell u what I said 2 my son after I showed him all my scars 4 country pride & honor when u bleed green & white as long as I have seen more in a life time then any1 should have to endure god bless u when & if u ever see the SB win I've been waiting on for these 40 years "
same ol' jets Said:
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 1:35am EDT"Dunnie you should not question what type of a fan anybody is. I have been a Jets fan since i was a wee babe and maybe my comments bother because deep down inside you fear that they may have truth. Did you see favre's face and how he looked defeated in the 3rd Q. By the way garbage time points don't count. Score points when it matters to keep the game close! Ralph a pick is pick is apick 6!"
Anthony Said:
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 9:51am EDT"I feel that either way its the whole team as a one not playing as a unit and the whole team needs to start playing TOUGH, Playing with EMOTION and fist pumping after the first down....or going nuts in the endzone all the things that make this the best sport on earth to win in . I think that will pump up the Jets and show them they are better then they think..."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 6:22pm EDT"Cont. Ray to finish my point thats why baskins & robins makes 34 favors we all have our opinions Some of us hate to lose year after year some don't care "
Ray Said:
Sat, September 27, 2008 - 12:13am EDT"mike ex jet fan, i don't know if the first part of your comment didn't make it, but you lost me brother. Are you saying because I don't pile on like you guys that I don't care about losing? Tell that one to my wife when she's ducking something I just hurled across the room during a Jet game. "
Ray Said:
Sat, September 27, 2008 - 12:18am EDT"I understand by now this blog is probably dead, but Ken I wanted to point something out to you. Yes only 5% of OS kicks may be successful, but that is for all OS kicks and the vast majority of them occur when both teams know it is coming. They don't keep stats that I know of on OS kicks like that one when it is used as a surprise, but I would bet the pct. is better. He took a shot and lost."
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MikeMc Said:
Tue, September 23, 2008 - 6:53pm EDT"I for one had no problem with the onside kick, Mangini knew we had to score often, he saw an advantage and gambled, unfortunately the one guy beat our six. Ira, I for one still believe so no bridge jumping. Frank don't kick the horse cause he's not dead yet. We all had an entertaining Mon. night, so we lost ,we move on, you crazy fans need to relax & enjoy the ride. I promise it will be a fun ride"
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