Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Chad Pennington, Darrelle Revis, Justin Miller, Laveranues Coles, Kellen Clemens, Wallace Wright, Brett Ratliff, Kareem Brown, Vernon Gholston, Calvin Pace
06/06 — This afternoon's practice, the final workout of the Jets' full-squad minicamp, featured the catch of the camp plus an uprising from the first defense.
The catch was turned in by Laveranues Coles on a 7-on-7 pass from Chad Pennington. Coles and CB Justin Miller had some substantial but incidental contact (no flag was thrown), with Miller going down and Coles stumbling coming out of the contact — and sticking out his right hand to make a right-handed, one-handed grab.
From there Coles zigzagged his way downfield to get past deep help Eric Smith and continue on his way to the score.
The plays by the first D were almost equally impressive.
CB Darrelle Revis made a couple of fine efforts on Pennington throws to Wallace Wright. On the first, Revis was all over Pennington's under-pressure throw for the smothering PD. On the second, Wright could the quick hitter but No. 24 was all over him and wouldn't let him get away, grabbing a handful of jersey and taking him out of bounds.
And there were some outstanding pass rushes that would have resulted in sacks, if there were tackling at this minicamp. LB Calvin Pace had a couple of pressures of Pennington, rookie LB Vernon Gholston — still getting help from teammates in lining up in only his second full-squad practice — put some heat on Kellen Clemens in forcing an off-target throw, and DE Kareem Brown stepped up with a big pressure to force a KC throwaway.
With owner Woody Johnson on hand for a second day of practice-watching, the session ended with two-minute work. Actually, there was 1:44 left and the offense trailed, 28-20, when the drive started deep in minus territory. Pennington and the first offense could only get to midfield before one last Stanford-band play got the ball to the 20 but no closer as the play was whistled dead with time expired.
Then QB Brett Ratliff, getting some work with the twos today, stepped in for Clemens on the next 1:44 drive (much as he replaced Pennington with the twos at the end of the morning practice) and getting the offense to first-and-goal at the defense's 5 with 10 seconds to left on pass on two completions to WR Chansi Stuckey sandwiched around a long completion to WR David Clowney.
But the drive ended not with a bang but a whimper — a Ratliff long scramble, during which he might've gotten sacked, but hitting WR Chris Davis just across the goal line for the TD, but having the play nullified by an offensive hold.
Ben Graham was up and down on his regular punting but nailed some outstanding end-over-end drop punts. Mike Nugent hit two field goals under 53 yards but missed three from 53 or longer.
Saturday's schedule hasn't been made public, although the players are done with practices until training camp opens in late July. And I do anticipate making one more filing, whether it's a news story or a Radar entry, sometime Saturday afternoon.
Keller's a Catch on Jets Nation
First-round TE Dustin Keller, who had a strong morning practice and added another nifty reception in the afternoon on a high-and-behind throw from Kellen Clemens, will be the featured player on Jets Nation on SportsNet New York, which first airs Saturday at noon.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (55)Barry Richards Said:
Fri, June 6, 2008 - 8:16pm EDT"Randy, Providing no major injuries we are heading to playoffs. I think we are one season away from Superbowl."
Michael Said:
Fri, June 6, 2008 - 9:49pm EDT"hey randy, when Vernon Gholston was pressureing kellen clemens.was vernon ROLB or a LOLB??? and did he past someone or did he has to fight threw a guard to get to kellen clemens?thanks jets fan for life.is there any highlight videos to for today minin camp?thanks"
Randy Lange Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 7:21am EDT"Michael, Vernon Gholston lined up at both outside LB spots during the course of the day. "
Jake Said:
Fri, June 6, 2008 - 10:59pm EDT"this shows the Jets do have alot of offensive and defensive weapons... but the only thing i hope is that they will be able to mold and play as a team next year"
Mark Said:
Fri, June 6, 2008 - 11:39pm EDT"hey Randy how is David Harris looking?"
Randy Lange Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 7:22am EDT"Mark, David Harris was looking very solid and was around the ball a lot during the minicamp."
Alfredo Puig Said:
Fri, June 6, 2008 - 11:53pm EDT"Hey Randy always have been a big fan of your writing! "
Randy Lange Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 7:23am EDT"Thank you, Alfredo."
Frank Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 9:52am EDT"Reading Bakers interview is extremely disturbing and confirms everything I said about Tangini and their mis-handling of the players. He has laid out a very clear and concise summary of events that support his position. What is stunning is Mangini in his interview said "these issues don't affect the team it's one player" He clearly is clueless and in denial this does not bode well for the future."
Dunnie Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 4:03pm EDT"Frank ... although I like Baker ... He has very little to zero leverage in this case. He has two years remaining on his contract ... not only that ... We have Bubba and Dustin ahead of him on the depth chart. We were 4-12 last year ... I say stop whining and play ball. If he dominates this year hell be rewarded. Last year Kendall had the leverage."
TYREEK Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 4:48pm EDT"i have no problem with the jets not giveing this guy money .... baker was on a 4-12 team what more he want.....he talks about all he did last year wow . i bet keller will have a better year this year than baker had the last 2 years"
kimosabe Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 4:53pm EDT"The article on the new facillity was terrific. Sounds like the organization went ' top shelf ' About C. Baker: It's A P. Kendall replay... Holding the entire organization hostage for an individual pay raise on a contract only 1/2 fulfilled. When a playerrestructures his contract for( team ) salary cap reasons, the purpose is for the betterment of the team. When said player USES that agreement for "
kimosabe Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 5:03pm EDT"his ' personal gain ' through the media, he destroys the effort of the organization to build a winning organization..This player is a cancer instead of one of those building block leaders every team needs. Lets see better production this year, then you can reap the harvest..Mr. Baker !!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 6:10pm EDT"The Jets need to take care of this Baker thing right away if they cut him or trade him it does not matter to me but we can not have this go on all summer like last year it will rub off on the other players we need to put an end to this right away"
Frank Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 8:08pm EDT"Dunnie, Keller and Bubba ahead of him on the depth chart? Huh? Baker is the starter and best TE on the team until proven otherwise. You and Kimosobe clearly don't understand the Player/Mgt dynamic. This idiotic idea that he has no leverage is not the point. He was told his contract would be re-visted just like Coles and Kendall. The lack of credibilty by Mgt is the cancer that hurts team chemistry"
Paul Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 9:15pm EDT"First of all why did the Jets pay a rookie tight end more money then the starter? And just because Baker had his best year ever as a pro doesn't mean that he should get a raise especially when he has a contract. And when the team goes 4 - 12 nobody should get a raise. Remember when C Martin and Chad took paycuts a couple of seasons ago to help the team? "
Ira Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 9:26pm EDT"Baker's comments were way too harsh and they need to get rid of him before camp starts. Can't have a repeat of last year. Sign Kyle Brady for now and see who becomes available during the next few weeks and the summer. Franks and Keller will have to do for now. He should have just came in and played for a new contract after this year. I think the Jets have been fair with him."
CEDRIC Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 11:12pm EDT"I dont care how they deal w/ the Baker situation, they just do it quickly. I refuse to refer to them as Tangini. Mr T is responsible for this &Baker shouldve been smarter he knew about his advance, he did the math & he hollered for a new contract before he had a good year so he was greedy before this, now he has no leverage. Mangini is playin his position as coach. The Media is feasting on this."
JB Said:
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 11:49pm EDT"It's nice to have a new facility but it should be in New York somewhere. Now that the Jets are out of Hofstra they are an all New Jersey team and should be called so. Same with the Giants. BRING THE JETS BACK TO NEW YORK WOODY JOHNSON TAKE THE HIT AND GET SOME PRIDE."
CCY Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 7:50am EDT"Ratliff gets some nice reps, but no mention of Ainge. Was he there?"
Randy Lange Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 9:44am EDT"CCY, Erik Ainge participated in the minicamp but has an injury and did not throw during the camp."
Frank Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 9:59am EDT"Ira I am stunned by your comments. Pay Coles for the same antics but dump Baker? How about holding Tangini responsible for lying to the players. 3 different players saying the same thing. This is not about production Tangini's system is about "team" and "role players" Baker was asked to block excessively because of an awful O-Line and he is a team player and played his role well last year."
Frank Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 10:05am EDT"Tangini claims they learned from their mistakes last year yet here we go again. They need to start acting like leaders and make a decision for gods sake. They waited too long to trade players they waited too long to deal with Kendall and now the same thing with Baker. They control the situation and for this to deteriorate like this to potentialy undermine the season again is absurd and their fault"
king Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 10:22am EDT"hey ! randy this has bothered me for years.why isn't kllecko in the hall of fame isn't he the only player to go to the pro bowl at three different positions"
Randy Lange Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 2:35pm EDT"Klecko was the first to go to the Pro Bowl at three different positions, king. Dan Hampton of the Bears also went as a DE-DT-NT. My good friend Vinny DiTrani, who is on the Pro Football Hall of Fame's selection committee, has told me he'd consider voting for Klecko if he got to the "final-6" balloting but that for whatever reason Joe has never made it that far. DiTrani feels Klecko is as valid a candidate as Oilers DE Elvin Bethea, who couldn't "get in the room" as a final-15 candidate for 15 years, then was immediately voted into the Hall in 2003. We'll all keep pitching for Klecko."
CEDRIC Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 11:23am EDT"FRANK, its not "Their" fault, its Mr.T & notice what u said "Revisited" not "Restructured" Big Diff. Im sure he looked at it, Baker hollered out trade then they change his mind like a fool, thats his fault. But He decided not to give him a new one. they arent obligated to. But they arent obligated to do what best for the team, I think whats best is to handle this quickly. "
CEDRIC Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 11:33am EDT"People are quick to fault Mr.T, no way am i defendin him. But shell some blame on Baker, he didnt have to take the advance, he blindly believed his agent & screamed TRADE ME! Then FIRES that agent! What sense does he make? He has one good year & he wanted more Money when he had 31 rec in 06? He's been about money, the moment he got playin time he wanted a raise, look at the stats he aint a Top TE"
Anonymous Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 12:20pm EDT"Frank, relax man. Coles got a guarantee, nothing more. The FO is not going to say anything and they are not going to stop CB from saying anything he wants. Contract is a contract. He either plays or he doesn't get paid. Simple as that! Nothing more to be said."
Ray Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 12:33pm EDT"Frank, get a grip. Other than this being a contract dispute, this is nothing like Kendall. Baker wants to make it that way to make his argument stronger. If this lingers or we lose Baker the season is not going in the tank. I like him, but he is not nearly as important as Kendall was to the O Line last year. And Cedric is right this is strictly between Baker and Tannenbaum. Baker even......"
Ray Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 12:40pm EDT"acknowledged as much. Mangini is doing what every other coach in the league does. He's staying out of it. And quit trying to throw Coles in the mix. Guaranteeing the last two years of his contract is not the same as renegotiating it. Baker doesn't want his contract guaranteed he wants a new deal, whole diff. issue. And btw, money talks, they had no trouble signing FA's in spite of Kendall."
MikeMc Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 1:42pm EDT"Frank, ease up on Tangini, I don't care if he promised the moon, Baker has yrs left on the contract he signed . You can't keep feeding the stray cats you'll have a dozen before long, unlike Ira who is waffling a bit, I had the same stance on Coles.Trade him or bench him, but do not release him so the team gets nothing and the player gets a new contract. Tannenbaum is in the right here Frank."
Alexander Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 2:14pm EDT"Hey Randy, love reading the work. Do you happen to know what the injury pertaining to Erik Ainge is? He's a big guy and has got some upside. I'd like to see him do well."
Randy Lange Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 2:38pm EDT"Alexander, Coach Mangini hasn't discussed the injury with reporters yet. "
Jaye Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 3:18pm EDT"RANDY I know this is kind of late to ask, but what ever happened with the Jets getting rid of Bob Sutton and hiring a more experienced/suitable defnsivse coordinator. I ask tis out of a mojor concern because no matter what talent we have on the defensive front or how much money we spend in aquiring new talent, if the right coaching personell isn't present we will have the wong plays called."
Ray Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 4:16pm EDT"You can't renegotiate everybody. Baker leads the league in FAC(fumbles after catch). We have 2 better tight ends now. He is mouthing off publicly and claiming things based strictly on what his agent told him. Good bye, Chris. Maybe we can get a serviceable player for him."
Frank Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 5:21pm EDT"Hey guys when Mangini says the Kendall situation had nothing to do with last years debacle he becomes part of the problem. Managing the team and each player is just as important as X's and O's. Tangini gets an F in the "management" department. I said months ago they needed to resolve this issue and they haven't that is my beef...got it fellas!. Trade him or pay him doing nothing is not an option."
Ray Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 6:44pm EDT"Hey Frank, (and I'm not the one right above you, I'm the one from get a grip!). Do you actually think that in public Mangini is going to admit that, even if he believes it?!! And all the weekly injury reports are completely honest too right?!! Baker's "clear and concise summary of events" is no more than C. Baker's side of the story. You just happen to agree with him so you think it supports.."
Ray Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 6:55pm EDT"his position. If Tannenbaum comes out with a clear concise summary that supports his side, then what? Managing the team is important, yes, but that is on the field/locker room, and no coach is going to get involved in money and contract disputes, so Mangini is doing exactly what he should..... NOTHING!! And whether you, I or anyone else likes it, doing nothing is an option. He's under contract"
Ira Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 7:20pm EDT"Frank, 1st of all i am sure they are exploring every possiblity in regards to Baker. They will do whats best for the team. Now with Baker making remarks like they tanked the season that was wrong on his half. If you feel that way keep it in house and talk to the coach. Do not go public with it. He is trying to force their hands. This will be resolved before camp starts one way or another."
Dunnie Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 8:24pm EDT"Frank, I respect your opinion, but I heartily disagree. I think Tangini is doing whats best for the team right now. The guy has two year remaining on his contract, coming off a 4-12 season. Shut up and play ball ... if you play awesome ... get a raise. I am so tired of the players thinking they deserve more than their contract ... don't sign it if you don't like the deal!! STHU and play ball !!!"
Nic Said:
Sun, June 8, 2008 - 9:26pm EDT"Hey Randy, I just finished reading "Gang Green" and I thought it was really good! It brought back a lot of Jets memories for me (good and of course bad). I'm ready to grab a copy of your book, I can't wait! It's called "Stadium Stories", right? Is it available at the Jets Shop, or is it something that I should pick up at Borders, Barnes and Noble, etc.? Thanks a bunch!"
Randy Lange Said:
Mon, June 9, 2008 - 11:18am EDT"Nic, I should know this, but I think "Stadium Stories: New York Jets" is still available at the major online booksellers."
CEDRIC Said:
Mon, June 9, 2008 - 12:35am EDT"Frank, Mangini doesnt become part of the problem Bcuz u said so. & obviously doing nothing is an option bcuz thats what theyre doing. Mgmt gets an "F" Bcuz 1 player out of 85 isnt happy w/ the contract they WILLINGLY signed & now Mgmt is standing their ground? I would hate for u to be my teacher FRANK, They want the other TEs to go through a healthy camp first, Got it Frank! "
Renaldo Said:
Mon, June 9, 2008 - 1:48pm EDT"King: Klecko probably isn't going to the HOF for a while if he ever does get in. I've finally learned to live with it. There are too many other famous D-Lineman that will get in before him. Unfortunately, the HOF panel is really biased and they don't seem to like ex-Jets. Plus the HOF has become a popularity contest, and as we all here like Joe, not many people outside of New York know who he is."
Ben Said:
Mon, June 9, 2008 - 4:21pm EDT"I agree with Renaldo, the Pro Football Hall of Fame has turned into a big joke. It's to bad, I'd really love to see a few of our former Jets in there. Klecko, Gastineau, and Winston Hill should all be in there. But it is what it is, and our guys will always be the greatest amongst us in the Jets community so that's all that matters. More importantly, we have to focus on having a great season now!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 10:51am EDT"With all the players the Jets have added if they do not go at least 8 & 8 I think Mangini's head is going to be on the chopping block no more excuses he has got the players to fi this system & the owner has shelled out major money it is time to get the job done "
Ken Said:
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 4:06pm EDT"Blocking, blocking, blocking! Offense is about Blocking! The JETS have got to get the Offensive Line and the WRs to be great at BLOCKING, to help the run game and help the JETS Offense to be better."
Row Said:
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 7:09pm EDT"Mr. T drafted a TE and traded for a TE before the draft. I think that is bad management. I didn't see one double tight set last year, and we have a great TE already! What we need is a WR that didn't sit out the last 3 games with a captain badge on his chest. Dock Coles 3 games pay and give baker his money!!!"
CEDRIC Said:
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 8:16pm EDT"Spicer, are u the new Obvious Guy, we've had at least 100 post sayin the same thing. We know about the expectations of Mangini & Co."
Ray Said:
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 2:47am EDT"Row what are u talking about? 1.) We drafted a TE that is actually more of an H back to create coverage problems in certain sets. He is not here to take Baker's place. Franks was a FA we only gave up money to get him. And we already have a "great" TE??? Baker has been solid, not great. 2.) We're docking Coles for what? Being injured at the end of the year? Oh yeah, that's gonna happen...."
Tom Spicer Said:
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 11:10am EDT"Thanks Cedric I did not know you were in charge of this site"
harbor rat Said:
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 11:41am EDT"my question for the day is this...if you sign a contract to work for an employer or to play for a team shouldn't you honor it? it seems to me that in the past 5 years or so contracts have become meaningless in length...i mean you sign a 4 yr contract ,how about playing the four years for the money that you put your john hancock on...this isn't cancer research.just overpaid men playing a kids game!"
Ben Said:
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 5:04pm EDT"We should call Cedric "Clem the Buzzard". He's the buzzard of the site, he waits for people to mess something up and then he pounces on them like a buzzard on a carcus. We're all supposed to be on the same side here, occasionally we have a jerk Pats fan on here but we shouldn't be arguing with each other guys, come on. Go Jets!!!!"
CEDRIC Said:
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 6:28pm EDT"Spicer, Now u know...lol"
CEDRIC Said:
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 6:37pm EDT"no offense tom, it just get fustrating when ppl say the team should be something, when every sunday is different, so expectations are high n u worry like i do, but lets just hope for some good football with some heart"
Row Said:
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 8:44pm EDT"Ok guys, here is what I want... I want to see Baker on the field and the out pass taken out of the playbook. It would be nice to see a wr screen or something intermediate. I would also prefer the draw be taken out of the playbook. Lastly, I want to run for first downs, period! If the players we have can accomplish that, I'm good. "
Denzil Said:
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 10:01pm EDT"Ben, lose the drama dude. Cedric was just playing around, if anyone's a big Jets fan it's him. And Row, I'd like to see everything work out with Baker too, but it doesn't look good. "
CEDRIC Said:
Thu, June 12, 2008 - 3:27pm EDT"Thanks Denzil, "Clem the Buzzard" I like, if anything im trying to stop the fighting on the site, everybody is always coming at Mangini for what he's doing wrong or what he better do, the fact is we nor he has complete control over certain things, so im just asking for more support from the Fans. Is that wrong?"
Nic Said:
Thu, June 12, 2008 - 8:42pm EDT"I'm with Cedric and Denzil, we should all be on the same page here and should be nothing but supportive of Mangini and our beloved Jets. It's cool to disagree with each other on some topics but not to do so in a mean spirited way. This season is going to be great, I can't wait to watch us sweep the Pats and repeatedly put Brady on his back with our relentless pass rush! Go Jets!!!!!!!"
GIOVANNI Said:
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 1:16pm EDT"LISTEN UP GUYS,BAKER TOOK MONEY UP FRONT LAST YEAR,NOW THE TEAM WHENT 4-12,HOW CAN YOU GO TO YOUR SUPERIORS AND ASK FOR MO MONEY,IN ANY JOB YOU HAVE A PAY THAT YOU AGREE ON WHEN YOU TAKE THE JOB,NOW IF YOU AND YOUR COWORKERS UNDER ACHIEVE,YOU KNO WAY DO YOU GO TO YOUR BOSS AND ASK FOR A RAISE IF YOU DO YOU WUOLD BE FIRED,SO I CAN'T SEE BAKER ASKING FOR A NEW CONTRACT,JUST PLAY AND PROVE YOUR SELF."
Row Said:
Sat, June 14, 2008 - 11:57am EDT"Giovanni, Baker is still showing up to mandatory ota's or whatever they are called. He is still here, the weird part is, they signed two TE's to replace him or for an unforseen reason. I mean if two people were hired to replace you, wouldn't you at least be like "what's going on here, I performed last year?" The first round rookie is going to make more then him."
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Ira Said:
Fri, June 6, 2008 - 7:33pm EDT"Randy, You're the eyes and ears for all of us and you do a great job. Love to keep reading about Stuckey and Clowney. I have said all along their group of WR's are fine. The so called experts don't think so but i think i will end up being correct. Well no more practices but i wouldn't be surprised if Eric has them do condtioning drills in the heat on Saturday. "