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File Under: David Harris, Marvin Jones, Mo Lewis, Batman "
10/31 — Have you ever noticed, when the network play-by-play guy gushes, "Wow, that was some hit. Let's listen to it again," that the audio-enhanced replay really doesn't sound much different than when you heard it the first time? Maybe it's the network's parabolic mikes, maybe it's the quality of your (or my) monitor, but those audio replays are almost always a waste of time.
On the other hand, David Harris may have a say in how often NFL TV producers go to the audiotape for future Jets games. One thing that came through during Harris' pro starting debut against Buffalo on Sunday was the audible punch that he packed, not loud but definitely an impactful plastic noise generated from the rookie LB coiling and delivering hits.
It was like a reprise of Adam West as Batman back in the day:
POW! Harris crunches RG Derrick Dockery and RB Marshawn Lynch gains little.
BAM! No. 52 comes around the corner and sticks RB Dwayne Wright for no gain.
BIFF! Harris pops QB Trent Edwards after he's chased up in the pocket for his first NFL sack.
"I've never heard anybody comment about that, not really," Harris told me today about his Rice Krispies TV presence (snap-crackle-pop). "I just go out and make plays. You always want to punish the ballcarrier, whoever he is. You never want to make life easy for him."
Harris couldn't have been accused of that vs. the Bills. Whether you go with 14 tackles (coaches' video breakdown) or 17 (pressbox stats), that double-digit total is impressive for any LB, and especially for a rookie diving into his first start.
So are the 3.5 tackles at or behind the line that Harris unofficially made vs. the Bills. Since the Elias Sports Bureau doesn't keep track of TFLNGs, I've scored them on my own for the Jets for the last 13 seasons, the same way sacks are scored: tackles on runs and receptions that don't gain yardage, no more than two players getting credit for any one tackle and yardage lost.
Harris' total was (again unofficially) one of the top eight by a Jet since 1995. Here's the list:
| Season | Player | Opp | TFLNG | YardsLst |
| 1995 | LB Mo Lewis | vs. NE | 4.0 | 6.5 |
| 1995 | LB Marvin Jones | vs. BUF | 4.0 | 7.5 |
| 1995 | DE Marvin Washington | at MIA | 3.5 | 4.5 |
| 1997 | LB Marvin Jones | at SEA | 3.5 | 14.0 |
| 2001 | DT Steve Martin | vs. MIA | 3.5 | 3.0 |
| 2004 | LB Sam Cowart | vs. CIN | 3.5 | 1.0 |
| 2004 | LB Eric Barton | at BUF | 3.5 | 1.5 |
| 2007 | LB David Harris | vs. BUF | 3.5 | 5.5 |
And one more thing to like about the rookie's performance vs. the Bills: He drew his first special teams penalty against the opponents when Mario Haggan held him on punt coverage. That's 10 more yards Harris added to his production for the day.
David's still new to all this NFL spotlight stuff. I asked him if there was a nickname he acquired during his stellar Michigan seasons. He smiled, was about to reveal it, then thought better of it. I let him know that some fans are starting to call him "Hitman" in comments to the Radar. He smiled again.
"Whatever they come up with is fine," he said.
It's still early in David's career to elevate him into "Ocho Cinco" territory, but we know how everything is sped up these days. Any thoughts on a nickname for Harris that Jets fans can get behind?
Coles on Injury Report
Laveranues Coles is on today's first injury report of the week with a concussion suffered when he was rocked from behind by Buffalo's Terrence McGee. Coles was listed as not participating in practice. There was no word from head coach Eric Mangini on Coles' availability for Sunday's game. Rookie DE Mike DeVito also suffered a shoulder injury during the 30 minutes of media availability at today's practice and was listed on the report as limited for the practice.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (34)Mike V Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 5:26pm EDT"please do what needs to be done to bring Michael Turner to the Jets. Thomas Jones is not going to cut it. JETS stop making foolish mistakes and get some quality, WINNING players. Get MICHAEL TURNER "
Schuyler Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 5:49pm EDT"I like "Hitman", but I have also seen some Michigan articles that called him a goliath, so David "The Goliath" Harris sounds good also. Randy his nick name in high school was "The Terminator", I believe. I also like Stonewall, The Brick Wall and as his website calls him "Big" David Harris. My vote goes to David "The Goliath" Harris. Go Jets!"
Ira Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 8:31pm EDT"Even though this is a Harris post i need to bring up Clemens. I just watched the 2nd half of the Jets-Ravens game. Not a knock on Chad but Clemens will give Schotty more options to call plays with. Yes he will make mistakes and learn from it but he can sure throw the ball. Maybe this is the spark they need. Playing vs the Ravens was perfect because the Skins D is very similar. He will play well."
rocrok Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 8:43pm EDT"I like the David "The Goliath" Harris. I also agree with trying to get quality players in. but who doesn't? T.Jones will be alright as soon as the passing game opens up. With penny out and kellen in, that might happen. I'd like to see B.Smith get some playing time under center. The kids a real quality player (sound rookie Q.B) and real mobile as well. Prep for the future. and how bout taller D.Bs"
Dunnie Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 9:12pm EDT"Mike V ... that is truly insane .. T Jones is going to be the man."
Thomas Stapleton Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 9:17pm EDT"Being a jet fan my whole life can I just say I've seen enough! Every year its the same thing!!! Our problem is we dont have players with heart!!! Get guys like Chrebet forget signing the big names! Get the players who will give there heart and soul to this game!!! It's a disgrace watching these jets play they have no heart!"
Rick Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 9:22pm EDT"does anyone think that jonathan vilma with his size and speed might be a better outside linebacker"
bigkh Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 9:46pm EDT"forget about all thoes stats, and I hope someone besides the fans reads this. Screw all of the multi-position players on the team we need POSITION players. We NEED recievers. How about a 6 foot 5 inch first round pick in 05 who was just realesed from the raiders. Yes MIKE WILLIAMS, lets revitalize his career. it will be a great oppertunity for him because we are lacking at that position."
Sean Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 10:37pm EDT"Harris should be called The Hammer."
Anthony Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 10:41pm EDT"Mike V are u serious? Jones is a beast. We need to give him the ball more and get the o line to push forward. it seems like Jones is going to get run stuffed in the back field every game but he cuts it back up to get positive yardage. Harris is an animal, lets hope he can pull a repeat on sunday. I like the coach's change to Elam. I think he has great potential. Go JETS Go Clemens!!!! "
Vaughn Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 2:07am EDT"I'm glad the Jets got Harris, I remember during the draft the ESPN crew saying he had led his Michigan 3-4 defense in tackles. He's got pretty much the same build as the other line backers but possesses more speed and a nose for stopping the run. I hope when Vilma gets healthy the two of them will be an electric force. Now if only the Jets had a pass rusher like Merriman or Wimbley....."
uncle joe Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 6:44am EDT"I think there is a good chance we could be calling him defensive rookie of the year!"
Ira Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 8:25am EDT"Jones is getting the ball plenty. Jones has the 4th most carries in the league going into this week. Benson,Parker and James are the only RB's who have more carries. What Jones does need is for Schotty to mix up his plays more for Jones. Jones will have a better 2nd half because the Jets will show a different look and will open the playbook and get D's to respect the long ball. Hope Bender starts."
kaya Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 10:07am EDT"I agree that T. Jones is the man. Hopefully this is the start of an exciting 2nd half. I like the name David "The Hitman" Harris. Bender should be the starter at LG - A. Clark is a flop/bust."
Draz Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 11:25am EDT"Say bye bye to Vilma. Vilma had a 24 game head start on Harris. I don't ever recall during that time seeing Vilma play a game even close to what Harris did on Sunday. Harris will be new leader on D, notice Barton was in a lot more plays then usual. Hollywood has absolutely done nothing all year, every deep ball thrown for a completion he has never been seen. Elam is a beast, lets be patient."
greenjello Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 11:30am EDT"David Harris is way better than vilma. He proved that in his first start and he will continue to prove as he plays. He has the size and the speed! Vilma just got pushed around to much. Sorry vilma, u make good trade bait though."
troy Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 11:50am EDT"come on mike v ,for starters the team not going to have 2 backs making more than 5 million a year ,if that was the case l jordan would have never left,2nd , t jones is a better back than m turner who's never shown he can be the feature back,jones carried the bears the last 2 seasons he proven ,and doing a pretty damn good job this year with the opposing D not repecting the pass game at all."
Big D Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 12:44pm EDT"Why are the jets not re-signing Vilma yet. I don't care what is wrong with his knee. He should get the surgery out of the way so he can rehab it. I think MR.Vilma and Mr.Harris are going to be an inside tandem for the next 10 years. The jets should make it a priortiy to re-sign vilma and find a NT that can be a double team magnet. Then they can move D. Robertson to DE. "
Brandon Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 2:01pm EDT"Mike V your a typical clueless fan. Your all over Thomas Jones right now for no reason. Bet you when we signed him you thought it was the greatest signing in Jets history. How will Mike Turner be any better then TJ. Because he's faster. Trung Candidate was a burner to and he was out of the league in 4 years. Not sayin that Turner will be out but TJ is not our problem. Our problem is WE STINK!"
Row Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 2:35pm EDT"Why is everyone talking up Harris for doing his job? I like the guy, I like hitting, but adress the problems. Jones has had to run draw after draw. All the plays TJ runs on he's 8 yds in the backfield. So every positive gain is 10 yds. I haven't seen a hole yet, and I think he's broken one for say...29 yards. Chad had what, 1 pass play that long? I've only seen like 3 plays in the playbook!!!"
Niall Mac Lochlainn Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 3:09pm EDT""Hitman" is good-very descriptive. There was a fearsome soccer defender years ago,played for Chelsea in England-His name was Ron Harris. He was fearsome though, scythed opposing strikers down in full flight. It earned him the nickname "Chopper". How about David "Chopper" Harris-the running back's nemesis?"
Ira Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 3:43pm EDT"For those knocking Vilma give him some slack. He is an excellent player. 04 Def Rookie of The Year and in 05 all- pro and he avg 11.7 tackles per game with 11 double digit tackles games out of 16 played. A high of 18 @ Denver and 17 vs the Pats@ home. Of course that was all in a 4-3 D. That sums it all up. The talent is surely there maybe not for this 3-4 system."
Drew Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 5:25pm EDT"WOW I seem to disagree with Row in every post. The reason I am talking Harris up is ....try reading Randy's blog. Harris made plays at the line of scrimmage. The same plays Vilma has not made in 2 years. I did not see Vilma's name on that list Randy posted...did you? I hate to knock Vilma but if praising the play of Harris (1st start) does ...so be it! Believe, me this kid is going be great"
Randy Lange Said:
"Drew, just to be fair to Jonathan Vilma, his best game in this category was 3.0 tackles for loss/no gain vs. Jacksonville in 2005."
Harris vs Vilma Said:
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 5:29pm EDT"You have to ask yourself. Why is HARRIS able to make SOOO MANY tackles on defense and VILMA cannot? I hate to say it....but maybe VILMA really can't handle this defense. I mean HARRIS did this in his 1ST start. And VILMA has been in this defense for the 2ND year know. This doesn't look good for VILMA."
Schuyler Said:
Fri, November 2, 2007 - 10:23am EDT"I read an article that said the Jets knew about Vilma's knee condition since the draft combine and he opted not to take the surgery than. That could be the reason his production has tailed off a bit, because the knee has gotten worse. I only hope the Jets offer him a contract and keep him a Jet for life. "
Schuyler Said:
Fri, November 2, 2007 - 10:47am EDT"If you read the scouting report on Harris, it says he's a big hitter and good run stuffer, but lacks technique dropping into coverage. I think this is why Vilma and Harris will develop into one of the leagues better tandems. Vilma has good cover skills and has the speed Harris doesn't. "
Drew Said:
Fri, November 2, 2007 - 7:53pm EDT"Randy....Thanks for the Vilma stat update. I did notice that was 2005 ,,, a year he played in the 4-3. Again I am trying to not take a shot at Vilma in my praise for Harris, I am a big Michigan fan and have seen Harris play for 3+ years... I love Vilma.. but not for this defense. I am not some dummy who thinks Vilma forgot how to play LB. Everyone watches the games..has he made plays??"
Drew Said:
Fri, November 2, 2007 - 8:00pm EDT"Schuyler... If you believe the scouting reports... Ryan Leaf was going to be a star QB out of WSU and Curtis Martin was never going to be more than a 3rd down back. Take my word for it David Harris is a every play 3-4 LB and will dominate in this defense. Look at how well Barton played next to Harris last week. Just to add Vilma and Harris ran similar 40's at the combine. Harris can cover"
g Said:
Fri, November 2, 2007 - 11:33pm EDT"David "Pipebomb" Harris, because he blows stuff up!!! I wouldnt use the word "stuff" though. Bring the pain Pipebomb!!!"
Dan Said:
Sun, November 4, 2007 - 7:50pm EDT"I dont question the heart of this team.I do however question the ridiculous coaching / play calling on both sides of the ball. We do need to beef up on both sides of the ball, our skill positions and secondary would only benefit from that (clone Mangold!!!). Harris looks great. Special teams played great. Once again we blow a lead, get the ball ran down our throat, make no adjustments and lose"
Vince Said:
Sun, November 18, 2007 - 10:39pm EDT"David Harris is simply the perfect fit in the Jets new 3-4 Defense. Their defense against the Steelers was outstanding racking up seven sacks including one for a 17 yard loss by David Harris. Don't forget the two games before week 11. David Harris had 30 solo tackles alone and over 40 counting assists. He is a hard-nosed player in on nearly every single hit and HAS replaced Vilma."
stephen Said:
Sun, November 25, 2007 - 11:15am EDT"I THINK THAT DAVID HARRIS IS GOING TO BE A HELL OF A MIDDLE LINEBACKER HE HASTHAT TYPE OF SWAGGER ON THE FIELD. I HOPE TO SEE HIM PLAY W VILMA. THAT WILL BE 2 DAMN GOOD LINEBACKERS ON THE FIELD FOR THE JETS IN YEARS TO COME"
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Ira Said:
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 4:35pm EDT"Randy, Nice work on those stats. Harris, you could see all summer he would be the real deal. Taking nothing away from Revis but i thought Harris would have a bigger impact his rookie year for the Jets. He really fits this 3-4 well because he is bigger and can get off blockers easier than some of the other LB's. As for a nickname i would suggest the Wall. RB's can't run through the Wall!!!!"
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