'Nothing to Even Elaborate On Right Now'
Published: Sun, October 28, 2007 - 8:47pm EDT
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Chad Pennington, Shaun Ellis, Jerricho Cotchery, Laveranues Coles, Buffalo Bills
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10/28 — What more can be said after the Jets fell for the seventh time in their first eight games this season?
"There's nothing to even elaborate on right now," said WR and offensive captain Laveranues Coles, seemingly OK after getting rocked by a Terrence McGee hit with 7:41 to play in today's 13-3 home loss to the Buffalo Bills. "We're not a very good football team. We're a 1-7 football team, which isn't good. You are who are. If you're 1-7, you're 1-7. It's tough."
"It's pretty much unexplainable," said DE and defensive captain Shaun Ellis. "I know it's the same old merry-go-round. We end up saying the same things over and over again. But it's true. We're accountable for our play. We have to step up and make plays. They made plays and we didn't."
The biggest play of all was a distant replay from last year's Meadowlands meeting between these division rivals. Last December, J.P. Losman fired a ball down the left sideline toward the east end zone that Lee Evans gathered in over David Barrett for a 77-yard touchdown play.
Some of the particulars were different. This time it was down the right sideline toward the west end zone, rookie corner Darrelle Revis and safety Abram Elam in coverage. But it was Losman, on for injured rookie Trent Edwards, slinging the rock to Evans, who took it away from Revis for an 85-yards touchdown, the only six-pointer and the final dagger in this Jets loss.
Here are the six longest opponents' touchdown passes in franchise history (home team in CAPS):
| Season | Yards | Connection | Final Score |
| 1963 | 93 | Dobie Craig from Tom Flores | RAIDERS 49, Jets 26 |
| 1975 | 90 | Roger Carr from Bert Jones | COLTS 52, Jets 19 |
| 1972 | 89 | Larry Brown from Billy Kilmer | Redskins 35, JETS 17 |
| 1968 | 87 | Jim Whelan from Tom Sherman | JETS 48, Patriots 14 |
| 1976 | 85 | Isaac Curtis from Ken Anderson | Bengals 42, JETS 3 |
| 2007 | 85 | Lee Evans from J.P. Losman | Bills 13, JETS 3 |
"I saw the end part of the pass," said WR Jerricho Cotchery. "I thought it was going to be a pick. I was ready to run out on the field, thinking it was going to be a change of possession."
"I thought it was an interception," Ellis said. "I was holding my hands up. It was a great play on [Evans'] part . I think our guy [Elam] might've knocked [Revis] off a little bit."
The Green & White defense knocked the Bills off their game quite a bit early on, making Trent Edwards look a little more like the rookie he is than the veteran he resembled for much of the first six quarters against the Jets this season.
There was only one sack, one of an unofficial game-high 17 tackles by rookie LB David Harris, but there were a number of blitz looks that clearly confused him, six QB hits in all, three by Revis blitzing out of the slot, and Revis' first pro interception, before Edwards left the game late in the third quarter with an injured right forearm.
"I thought we were more consistent," Ellis said. "They came back and adjusted, but we hit the quarterback earlier. ... We were causing a lot of problems early. We were stuffing them. I tall came down to one play. We stop that, who knows?"
But offensively, the Jets had no answers, no touchdown drives, one Mike Nugent field goal.
"I think our guys feel pretty good about our preparation," said QB Chad Pennington. "It's just about making plays and not making plays. We haven't made plays across the board, starting with myself."
That was the tone most players took, because as several so eloquently put it, there's not a lot to say now.
"We'll keep pressing on," Ellis said, "going to practice and focusing on getting better."
"I'm a leader on this team and I'm not making enough plays to help this team win," Coles said. "That's on me. ... We just need to pull together and look at ourselves with a tough and meaningful eye. Hopefully, we can get this worked out."
LC Climbs Off the Deck
Cotchery said it wasn't hard for him and his teammates to resume playing after seeing Coles lying on the turf for five minutes before walking off under his own power.
"But it's a blow," Cotchery said. "He's one of our leaders. To see him out cold, he was pretty much out cold, on the ground ... but he's a tough guy. And when he got up, that was a breath of fresh air."
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (94)Don M Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:14pm EDT"It's hard to believe that it could get any worse but it did today. What was Mangini waiting for to make the QB change? It was a joke that he put Clemens in when he did. To sit there and watch that offense was pitiful. And why didn't he say right after the game what everyone already knows about next week? There is no tape to watch. It's obvious to everyone that was there. Come on Eric - get a clue."
Drew Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:16pm EDT"Okay Jet fans let just sit back and try and enjoy the rest of the season. We will see a ton of Clemens, Revis, Harris, Bender and hopefully less of A Clarke, Dyson, Barrett etc.... It is all we have to look forward to now. Let's hope B-Schott opens up the offense with Kellen and Sutton keeps dialing up schemes like today and get ready for 2008. Let's hope this year was not a complete waste."
Rob Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:25pm EDT"I wonder how come no one has questioned play calling yet?? Since everyone is analyzing why leave that out of picture? And how about lining up and executing, instead of running all these motion calls. It seems to have a huge learning curve for our players to get in sync with all the commotion on offense."
JAC Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:25pm EDT"This is a terrible team, end of story. Losing Kendall took heart and soul away from this team, Mangini and Tannenbaum should be very much held responsible for that bone-headed move...just killed this team. A lot of luck involved with last year success. Think about it, the 3-4 defense did not work last year...this year, the defense is one of the worst any Jet fan has EVER seen. Bye-Bye Eric!!!!"
Andrew Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:28pm EDT"Pennington has got to go. Enough is enough."
cactus hugger Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:34pm EDT"Much improvement on D play calling & performance; same can't be said for O. I did like seeing B Smith lined up at QB, too bad it was only one play and Leon fumbled. Will they ever let Brad throw a pass in a similar situation? I still want to see Chad play some. Situational player packages could be good for the team; what have they got to lose?"
gary Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:41pm EDT"i dont think it will make a difference if clemens plays. the defense is the one thats losing us games. i think pennington is fine behind center we just need a defense that could make a stop. the blame of this teams failure is not chad pennington i repeat NOT CHAD PENNINGTON!!!!"
Greg Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:45pm EDT"It just dosen't make sense. We should not be this bad. Well, maybe next year !!!!!!!"
toni Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:46pm EDT"its time to put chad on the bench for good, he has waisted way too much time and money"
brian Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:56pm EDT"cant pin it all pn CP....yes he played like crap this year, but he didnt get alot of help and we all know it...its off to KC Chiefs for chad"
Ira Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 10:01pm EDT"Randy, Wow the longest TD pass in 31 years. What can you say its just one of those years. Revis was excellent putting pressure on the QB. Harris was outstanding and D-Rob made some good plays. I know that Eric wanted to give Chad every chance he could but he should've put Kellen in at the 10 minute mark. I would be shocked if he doesn't start next week. Glad LC seems to be ok. He is 1 tuff guy."
Dorian Lopez Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 10:30pm EDT"Well some years are good and some are not--looks like this is going to be a lean year.... I hope we dont lose to miami when we have to play them again. I hope this team doesnt wind up breaking my heart by going 1-15-- we already went through that hell once before but right now it seems like all bets are off until this slide can be stopped. "
john Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 10:30pm EDT"wher's the deep ball,one in cincy & i can't remember if there was one in the 1st 6 games, it must've been a fluke in cincy, there has got to be more plays than what they use, these 2 yd outs r getting the wideouts killed, except mcariens, he can't catch, baker's got great hands, but why bother schott he's open 10 yds down field, put the kid in let's see if he has a future."
Timothy Hegarty Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:01pm EDT"I hope all NY Jets fans know what they're rooting for with clemens. He's a fine quaterback but Chad has been a proven winner for a while now. Our defense is a flat out joke. 138 yards a game on the ground we give up. Pennington is all heart, all guts, and knows how to play the game of football. "
Wayne Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:01pm EDT"Randy, Was at game today and our offense is so PREDICTABLE and w/o any imagination. No its not all Chad. It's the O lines pass and run blocking, its predictable play calling, it's inconsistant D, it's terrible tackling and communication. This team needs a major overhaul or at least a shakeup.Chad didn't even test the defense w/ anything over 10yds.Seems we play poor enough to let our opponent win"
Same OLD JETS!!!! Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:01pm EDT"Same OLD JETS!!!!!! ERIC MANGINI as to held accountable and responsible for this 1 and 7 season. Can't blame HERM EDWARDS for this. "
chris Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:03pm EDT"Everyone thought Harris would replace Barton, but after one game in Vilma's spot, Harris has 17 tackles and it looked like a whole new run defense. It' sad to see a talent like Vilma suffer in a 3-4, but seeing Harris today showed that we need someone like him stuffing the run. Vilma isn't the same player that he was in the 4-3, and hopefully Harris continues to improve along with the defense. "
Double Standard Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:12pm EDT"Yes. Blame Herm Edwards for this 1and 7 season. KC is definitely doing better than the JETS. At least Herm Edwards had an injured team to blame the losing season on. Lets see if people will hold Eric Mangini accountable for this losing season. Or lets see if there is a Double standard for Herm Edwards compared to Eric Mangini?"
dEBBY VALERIE Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:27pm EDT"OK enough already its time for mangini to make a move pretty soon I hope somethings gotta be changed or he will lose his job . He should have started Clemens two games ago if that still didnt work then the whole team needs to be shook up I just dont get it last year playoffs , this year Im ready to give up and become a Patriot fan god help me!! Please do something different next game !!!!!!!!!!!!"
JP Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:33pm EDT"After seeing the press conference, Mangini even looks dumbfounded. Now is the time for him to make his 1st impact as headcoach. He needs to start Kellen Clemens next week and for the rest of the season to give him experience and see if there is potential. They have to use an aerial attack so TJ can break 100 yards and Coles does not get pounded again because he can never catch a ball in stride."
Row Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:36pm EDT"The play calling was ridiculous. Mangini FINALLY saw Chad almost got Coles killed. I have never seen worse game management. 2 yd dumps to Jones is not a Gotta-have-it for a 10 yard 1st down. FIRE SHOTTENHEIMER! Mangini, if you value your job, call the offensive plays. Have Revis return a punt. DO SOMETHING! I say start Brad Smith, and run run run. YOUR EVALUATIONS STINK, the OC blew the season. "
JP Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:36pm EDT"The other defensive young guns, Revis and Harris are showing strong flashes of why they are the future...Revis woud have had that interception if he was not bumped by his own player. Chad, he has done well for this team with over 13,000 yards and over a 60% completion ptcg. - next year he will be playing for a team that suits him (Chiefs) and Vilma as well, and the Jets will have more picks."
JP Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:42pm EDT"Above all, it is time for the young Mangenius to get "his" team in motion with "his" picks and the current playmakers. TJ, Coles, and Cotchery are ready to go (hope Coles is ok), we will have to make due with the hole in the line unless we get someone and the D needs to keep switching it up (DR and Harris were great!) - AERIAL attack down the field!, no more sidelinining. the KC era begins..."
Steve-o Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:43pm EDT"It's a shame they waited so long to put Clemens in. I don't think those interceptions should be held against him. With 3 minutes and 2 scores needed, he had to abandon the running game, and eliminate the short passes. Let's see what he can do next week when he has the whole arsenal. Having an arm at qb loosens up that defense. Now if only Mangini would go back to a 4-3 defense... "
Draz Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:07am EDT"Now we will see who the character players are for the rest of this meaningless year. With practically no personnel changes in the off season, Tangenious made a bold assumption they had the right talent for this season. There is going to be a lot of changes for next season. As much as I love Jon V he will be traded for a high pick. D harry had 17 tackles - 10 solo. 1st game start"
charlie Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:11am EDT"When Marshawn Lynch runs for a gain of 4 it looks like we stuffed the play. When T. Jones runs for 4 it looks like we broke one. I don't think there is one player on defense who can beat his man and "make a play." Two players we should have never let go.....Kendall and Abraham. Where's the next "you play to win the game" speech going to come from. ps - love the no down lineman blitz play."
AO Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:47am EDT"i like the agressive play of revis, but i think we should go for a DE in the first round in the draft or a SS, our defense needs to improve, and our offensive line has been doing better, but our screen plays, and play action has to improve, along with making holes for the running game"
Bleeding Green Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:48am EDT"I've never been more disappointed by a Jets team than I have been by this one! I really thought we'd have something this year, but it's turned out to be gawdawful! We've been more good than bad the last ten or eleven seasons, but we're in danger of slipping back into extended also ran status where winning seasons and playoff apperarances are the exception and not the norm."
Mike Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 1:08am EDT"It seems to me....every other play.....the play clock runs way down before they snap the ball making it easier for other teams to get of the line faster with anticipation...and I think thats on the OC with all types of motion and movement. Brian Schott should be Fired....snap the ball and execute......"
Scott Lefkowitz Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 1:31am EDT"Why are coaches so stubborn? The same plays over and over again and yet they do not work. I also think that the media is too concerned about being in the coaches good graces to ask the simple question of why are they getting out coached every week. We really dont care about character guys. I want a guy who will put his foot thru a locker because he is so sick of losing! As fans we sure are mad."
chris Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:20am EDT"i hope we get a great draft pick next year to make up for this crappy football that we are watching , i love the jets but this is pathetic. my yanks were bad , the jets well you know and all i have left is my knicks , oh god . we need a top pick in the draft , a quarterback would be nice . "
Bob R Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 5:55am EDT"COACHING and PLAY CALLING are the real issues here. Placing Vilma on IR is a joke. Everyone knows he's not injured, he just opened his mouth about the 3-4 defence. Benching Chad is a positive, Clemons reminded us about his arm, forget the interceptions, there on Shottenheimer! Use the run more, it became quite apparent that it was VERY effective. Go back to the 4-3 defence."
Darrell Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 6:43am EDT"Clemens needs to keep starting now. I'd like to see what he can do in tandem with Thomas Jones. He obviously didn't have enough time to run the ball while he was in this week. On the other side... that David Harris is a BEAST!!!! I heard a good nickname for him, David "The Hitman" Harris. I think it's very fitting. "
uncle joe Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 6:44am EDT"The QB has been changed(on D)17 tackles,the 3-4 worked yesterday!Hit Man Harris is an animal.I always felt E.Smith should start,but this Elam guy is everywhere,I wasnt even mad about the Revis play(the TD pass)at least he was there.Even D-Rob looked good.Its amazing,now our WRs need to practice with Clemens,because this kid is throwing some heat.Next up on the hot seat is Graham,whats his problem?"
Ira Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 7:00am EDT"It is what it is. They're a bad football team. So do you want to kick them when they're down or look for +'s. The D might have played their best game of the season yesterday. Very aggressive and held the Bills to 3.1 yds per carry. Randy that has to be the best vs the run all year so far? Bills 4-13 on 3rd down conversion. Harris like i said was great. Now lets see what we have for 08."
Randy Lange Said:
"Ira, the Jets' two best games vs. the run this year were both Buffalo games: 86 yards at 3.1 per carry up there, 108 yards at 3.1 on Sunday."
Ira Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 7:44am EDT"When you lose 3 games and hold the other teams to 17,16 and13 pts there are signs that this D can play. Harris showed that the 3-4 will be fine. He sheds his blocks better than Vilma and it showed yesterday. They have 8 games left. Would like to see them re-group and win as many games as possible. Chad is still a winner in my book who gave everything he had. Now its Clemens' team. GO JETS!"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 7:59am EDT"Drew said it right,just enjoy the rest of the year.We are officially starting over.Mangini will weed out the rest of Herm's underachieving players and get this thing right.All his draft picks have been great,and we will have plenty of them this year.Trade this years #1 for more picks.Loved that D play where no one lined up,should fake the blitz next time.Paper said Ellis & Hobson made that play up"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:11am EDT"Mangini was admiral with Chad.Even though he got paid well enough for it,he over extended himself and for that Mangini gave him as much as he did.He was our guy,and Im alright with taking this season on the chin because of his demise.I thank him for all those great moments(remember the Colts' game)Be patient with Clemens,he will make mistakes,but he will be a good one,a very good one."
LOGICAL Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:12am EDT"Lets face it this year is a wash. It is time to move forward and start to use the resources that the team has. Employ the backups, see what their worth is and start to prepare for a great start to the next year. I would focus on getting one of the top four draft picks. If it is a quarterback that is needed look at it now, see what the depth is you have. ANT"
Adam Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:26am EDT"I am in shock at what I saw yesterday. Hello Eric! You are a 1-6 team down by three points with 6:15 left 3rd and 3 on the Buffalo 43 and you go incomplete pass then punt? That was the farthest you made it down the field since half through the second quarter. "
Viveca Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:28am EDT"Agree totally with JAC. Trading Kendall took the soul out of the Offensive line. Maybe he has only one or two more years in him, but to trade him before we had a replacement was a terrible decision. He was the savy veteran the line needed. They were never the same after he left. How about picking up Faneca and spend a high draft pick on a right tackle? That should fix the line in a hurry."
dave h Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:53am EDT"trade chad and vilma, thats no less than two first round picks easily, shott needs to take music lessons, he lacks any sense of rhythm in calling plays. TJ 's got to be thinking why he came to NY, defense played good, minus the collision and resulting TD, they kept the jets in the game. Once KC gets settled in , the O will be a scoring machine once again."
Ira Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:01am EDT"Uncle Joe, At 1st i thought they were all confused. It was a great call and it worked. Want to see the Jets on D flying all over the field and the O taking chances and play loose for the rest of the year. How about the Jets giving the Pats their 1st lose the year on 12/16. That would make my season."
ira Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:29am EDT"The Jets should be embarrased!!! 3 points against a defense ranked lower than theirs!! What's the answer? I would give Mangini a contract extention. 2-14, thanks to the Dolphins on Christmas. Been a fan for 30 years but can't even get thru a game anymore without getting angry. "
Larry Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:29am EDT"D looked pretty good. Clemens did VERY well in the short time he had. Was put in at a stressful time for a young QB. Maybe now we'll see the shakeup Mangini been promising. I'm sick and tired of listening to a class bunch of players constantly taking the heat. This incompetant coaching staff owns a majority of the blame. Wheres the "character" we hear so much about on the coaching staff? "
kevin O Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:32am EDT"Another colossal embarassment, this situation is extremely difficult to watch, I believe that the Coach needs to bear the responsibility for this, I believe Chad Pennington demonstrated some "relief" yesterday during his postgame interview. This is a real poor team, with many holes to fill, Tanenbaum and Mangini should work n "tandem" to fix this, because they are equally accountable. "
Brian I Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:39am EDT"I have to agree with Ira, David Harris is a beast in the middle, I knew his presence would be felt the moment Vilma was declared out. I look at it as a blessing in disguise, and despite the miracle Lee Evans catch, Darelle Revis is going to be one of the best corners in the league in the near future. Also agreeing with Ira is the fact that the Jets are a terrible team."
Brandon Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:43am EDT"As Jets fans we have to face the fact that we are not a good team. Its going to take a while to right the ship back to playoff caliber ball. Mangini has had only 2 drafts to get this team to where he wants it. So far in those 2 drafts we got ourselves some solid players. Be patient, it will take sometime. We just need to get rid of the talentless players Herm and Bradway drafted. "
uncle joe Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:47am EDT"You people are still talking about Kendal.You really think it was the money?We will see Sunday,Kellen picks a play and goes with it with 7 on the clock so the D cant jump the snap.He dont have to read the D because he could beat them with his arm(not that its a cannon but its good enough).Watch how well we run this week,how well we block.This team has weapons Coles,Cotchery,Leon,Jones,Baker"
kgp Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 10:05am EDT"Remember when Chad head-butted Kevin Mawae and the nasty look he got? Well they got to him, finally ... The Body Snatchers. Seeing Chad in there is not like it was ... there's no anticipation, no danger ... I think Vinny is more of a threat to defenses now."
Rev. Revolution Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 10:19am EDT"In response to Dave H, why trade Vilma? When healthy, he is the heart and soul of that defense. The fact that a small mlb can move and tackle the way he does is awesome, and thus makes him a valuable player to this club. As for Chad, I've always supported him, but yesterday made me sick. I'm sorry Chad, You're out of a job."
uncle joe Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 10:40am EDT"Hey dave h,no one will give a #1 for Chad or Vilma.Maybe K.C. gives us there 4 from Trent for Chad and #2 for Vilma,I'd take that.Shott dont need music lessons,he just needed to switch instruments.T.J. didnt choose the jets,Chicago did!But yor right our D looked nice and our O will be a scoring machine.Randy,will Bender get a look at RT this season?"
Randy Lange Said:
"I don't know the answer to that, Uncle Joe, but I'm sure Coach Mangini will address Jacob Bender's status in the coming days and weeks."
Totally FED UP Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 10:47am EDT"WasVilma watching David Harris? I am so glad I sold my tickets and did not have to experience that sick feeling of another loss when u leave. Maybe the ticket prices will increase next year. ONCE AGAIN, TOTAL DISGRACE!!!"
russ Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 11:04am EDT"A so so Offensive line makes a so so quarterback and running game....A weak defensive line makes any offense look better and puts pressure on a team that is not achievable Blame Tannenbaum your talent is not making it!"
john from ct. Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 11:21am EDT"Sit chad for a game or two.Its possible his future role is to be a top notch backup for the jets.Play clemmins to see if he has a future as our leader."
SCJoe Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 11:23am EDT"Unless Chad is calling all his own plays, you can't pin this mess all on him. If the play calling remains the same with Clemens you will have the same result.It is very hard for me to comprehend how many five yard out calls there have been on third and nine or ten. We have gone from one of the best coached teams in 06 to one of the very worse this year. Sad!"
jim Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 11:38am EDT"At this point, even though the players have not played good enought to win - it is the coaching that is questionable. 3rd and 1 and you try a trick play? Is the coaching that bad that they need a trick play to try and get 1 yard? This is a badly coached team and it's time to replace the head coach! This team has lost games because they can't select the correct plays to win games. Goodbye Eric!"
Charles Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:04pm EDT"I'm tired of complaining and pointing out all the negs. Lets try to find some positives at least now we can see what are second rounder can do. D.Harris. He looked awesome yesterday. D.Revis did well but mistakes happen, Probably the best D I've seen all year. Sure it's not saying much but it's improving the D looked alive. Clemens can't save this team this year but at least we can c what he can do"
Luis D Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:05pm EDT"We need to be on the same page on both sides of the ball, the defense played well and kept us in the game but we couldn't score. "
Marty H Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:09pm EDT"The team needs to focus back on the basics...blocking and tackling. My impression is on both sides of the line either we're undersized, playing the wrong scheme for the personnel or maybe both. We can't sustain drives and we can't stop them. "
CHANIN ZWANG Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:14pm EDT"WHAT HAPPENED TO D. ROBERTSON, AND ALL THE GUYS THAT ARE GETTING BIG DOLLARS. AND WHAT ABOUT THE GUYS THAT WE LET GO AND WERE TO CHEAP TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY. BEEN A JET FAN SINCE 63 AND FINALLY GAVE UP ON THEM. MADE THE MISTAKE OF MOVING TO FLORIDA AND SAME OLD STORY ANOTHER TEAM THAT REFUSES TO SPEND SOME MONEY"
Xavion Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:28pm EDT"Not Knocking the New kid but funny how 2 4th qtr intercptions arent the QBs fault this week... I do think he made a bad throw on the first pick. And Same old jets fans. nothing but complaints and critiscizm was it the same old Jets last year when we went to playoffs. We have been to playoffs 5-6 times in last 10 yrs. chill out. "
Xavion Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:33pm EDT" I have an issue with Elam. He made plays but he may have cost the game. Thats the problem with hitters they lower their heads and Plow not even looking at who they are hitting. Revis had that pick. If Elam had positioned him self better. Revis would have had the Ball or at least Elam would have stopped the TD. Instead he lowers his head and takes revis out. That was the Game"
NOAHTR Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:44pm EDT"I wonder if there is an official stat out there for how many times a QB COMPLETES a pass on 3rd down yet does pick up a 1st? If Hangin' Chad isn't the all-time leader, I'm he sure is in the converstion. What goes on in his head to make him throw a 4 yd dink when it's 3rd and 8? He's done it every game of his Jet Career. "
Perry Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:50pm EDT"Disgraceful performance! Let's face it, Chad is done. He had his shot, I love him but...bring on the kid. We need to see if he is the real deal, if not it's QB in the draft. Plus, although the D played better yesterday..It was the Bills! We need a Stud DT and Someone who can consistently rush teh QB from the edge and another CB. I love Revis & Elam & Rhodes is a good player. "
Ira Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 1:12pm EDT"Clarke really had a tuff game with his pass blocking. The Bills had lots of pressure coming from his spot. I see Montgomery or Bender starting for Clarke next week. Montgomery had started some games for the Panthers last year. BTW Elam made a nice play on a run blitz he wiffed on last week. Shows the guy can learn. Too bad about the play he had with Revis. He was only trying to make a play."
Jey Sanmuganathan Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 1:12pm EDT"The Jets need to get back to basics. The defense did well yesterday. The offense had a good thing going with the running game and seemed to walk away from it. "
uncle joe Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 1:21pm EDT"Hey CHANIN ZWANG,sounds like it would help all of us if you moved to N.E. and started routing for them.Hey Ira,I said it the other day,the N.E.game will be our Super Bowl this year.If we lose every game the rest of the way,but stop their undefeated season,I would be a proud Jet fan."
Frank Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 1:54pm EDT"Clearly last year was the abberation and personally I have had enough. Woody needs to have a talk with Parcells and he needs to hire him as the GM. Then he should go and hire Marty cause it's time for Marty Ball! I'd rather win during the season and get to the playoffs every year than not. Tangenius have destroyed the good Karma started by Parcells enough of the freshman bring in the Varsity NOW!"
Damone Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 2:00pm EDT"HOLD ON XAVION,YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ABRAM ELAM?!!!THAT PLAY WTH HIM AND REVIS WAS JUST A FLUKE AND YOU KNOW THAT WONT HAPPEN AGAIN.ELAM IS MUCH BETTER THAN ERIC COLEMAN.HE'S STRONGER AND HE'S FASTER.K RHODES ISNT FAST EITHER BUT HE MAKES UP FOR IT WITH GOOD TACKLING AND GOOD AWARENESS.WE NEEDED SOME ONE LIKE ELAM TO STEP UP.OUR SAFETIES ARE R-A-W!!!!BARRETT IS TOO SLOW OF A CORNERBACK!!!"
Martin Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 2:04pm EDT"this is obviously chad's last stand as jets qb... since the season is over playoff wise, can we see what clemens has. enough mangenious already... get it done... live with the decision... the season is over..... brady/ bledsoe, bledsoe/romo, leftwich/gerrard... etc. it's been done before... do it!"
Supermanisalive Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 2:07pm EDT"D. Robertson is not the answer at tackle, maybe at RE. He's overpaid! This team needs to make a decision about who going to be the QB next year. If Chad is not going to be here next season sit him on the bench, if he is then stop changing QBs. Where's S. Ellis? Haven't heard too much of him this year (maybe overpaid too). Vilma needs to be a outside LB, he's not a force in the middle!"
Dunnie Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 2:17pm EDT"Everyone ... STOP YOUR WHINING ... this team is trying to win. They are just not that good right now. They are struggling ... lets support them and look for improvement. I really hope that the coaches use Vilma next year ... at Outside Backer. Lets sit Chad and see what the Kid can do. Maybe Chad will be back ... who knows. The D looked awesome Sunday. Played downhill most of the game."
greentapioka Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 2:20pm EDT"Another season down the tubes! What is the excuse this time? Last year we went 10-6, now we look like the Rich Kotite era. I have to say that heads need to roll at the end of this season for this lackluster and most dishearting 2007 season. High expectations open the door for grave disappointments! Bye chad, vilma, robertson, barrett! Overpaid and underworked; that's the story for this year."
Row Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:09pm EDT"X, try to be constructive. IMO, Revis should have let go because of the safety help and Elam wouldn't have let up just enough to allow Evans to go for the TD. Was 3pt game. I won't let up on Schottenheimer. I am extremely sick he has a job calling for 3 yd outs and 2 yd dumps when we need 12 yards. Very happy McCareins, Baker were involved. Not a bad team, HORRIBLY COACHED. FIX IT MANGINI. GO JETS"
Wil Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:31pm EDT"we cant blame chad pennington becuase our defense is HORRIBLE i been a jets fan for 11 seasons and we always have a bad defense this year look the same we went 10-6 on chads arm last year and our defense was decent and consistantly decent last season this year you never know which defense will take the feild the 10-6 defense or the 1-15 defense its time we pass rushed consistantly stop with excuse"
John Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:31pm EDT"Well, Kellen's the starter vs. the 'Skins, let's see if he can live up to the hype. The game yesterday was just embarassing, sure the secondary played better (except for that TD they gave up, Elam needs to settle down, Revis had that INT), but c'mon, we need to create more 3-and-outs and let our offense stay on the field... of course the offense needs to do its job too. There's always '08..."
mark Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:50pm EDT"Can someone please tell Eric that you have 4-3 personnel trying to play a 3-4. It's ridiculous to waste the talent of Robertson and Vilma. As a former player, its about the scheme's you put in that can make or break a player. On a separate note, anyone think the Pats will beat up by 60? "
charlie Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:55pm EDT"I'll try to look at the positives. 1) The Jets have had a good run these past few years. 4 playoff births in the past 6 years or something like that. Not many can say that. 2) Seasons like this happen. Lets not fire everyone just yet. There's something to be said about consistency. 3) Not to wish anyone injury but can Brady get turf toe or a hang nail?? ps check out CP's win % since he's qb"
CURSE OF JOE WILLIE Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:03pm EDT"1-15 .............. I guarantee it next year the jets will get the wild card becasue of a last place schedule only to get routed in the first round then the following year the schedule will be tougher because they made the play-offs then they'll flop again same vicious cycle year in year out !!!!!!"
Dunnie Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:10pm EDT"Greentapioka ... and everyone else that is THAT let down form this years performance vs last years ... look at the schedules. Last year we were a 5-11 team that was lucky enough to get an extremely easy schedule and a couple breaks along the way, this year we have a pretty tough schedule and are not getting the breaks ... last year was a false indication of where this team stood amongst the league"
TonyR Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:14pm EDT"I was hoping Chad could overcome a bad start but it doesn't look like it. Now that the Jets are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, it can't hurt to see what Clemens can do out there. I'm really interested to see him play in next weeks game. "
Art Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:25pm EDT"I've been watching Jet QB's since Namath, and it looks like Chad is holding the ball and thinking about things instead of letting instinct take over... I agree with the play calling.. Jones was killing the herd on Sunday but we didn't stick with him.. MSG to Schottenheimer... repeat what works until they stop it ... Hello anybody home? "
Sally Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:27pm EDT"ok its goin to be a bad yr. but u cant blame everyone on it and give up on the Jets. every team goes through a rebuilding yr. chad isnt the problem..look at the D. its horrible. the whole team isnt clicking. stop blaming chad. go jets"
Alex Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:50pm EDT"Chad just dosent have what it takes to be a top starting quaterback. He never has. All the brains in the world wont do you any good when you need to gun the ball into the endzone on a 30 yard and over pass. He would make a great coach not our QB. Time for some new blood and energey at our QB position. And for god skaes will someone talk about how bad our DEFENSE is. Chad is only have the problem. "
JR Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:59pm EDT"WELL E Man... I am a forty plus year JETS FAN...But never before in the franchise history have I said "I give up" ...You got me really close. That genius you got play calling for our offense...is "HORRIBLE" you're lillin me here!!!!"
Seen Enough Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 5:16pm EDT"After seeing this game live, changes must be made. The offensive play calls are terrible both in timing and execution. There is something wrong with Chad, he has NO arm, not that he ever had a great one but now it is the worst ever. He is not seeing the field and taking way too long with the ball. And how many times are we going to run the same runing play?my 8yr olds can hold onto the ball better"
Jetstorm Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 6:35pm EDT"How about we start Clemons, and he plays the first half. For the experience... Then Chad could play the second half so we can lock up that first draft pick.."
SCJoe Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 7:06pm EDT"For those of you who continue harp on the "easy schedule" in 06, let me first remind you that there are no "easy" schedules in this league. If I recall, they beat NE. IN NE. They played both super bowl teams even, games that could have gone either way AND lost to Cleveland and Buffalo. Now, how many times have they been "blownout" this year??? Right, just one. "Any given Sunday" Think about it."
Drew Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:17pm EDT"I wonder if some of you fans are watching the game. D-Rob played a monster game on Sunday. He is not supposed to get sacks in this defense but he did eat up the C/G for Buffalo. I am also tired of reading...I have been a fan for this long and we are cursed....grow up already. We have had a pretty good run the last 10 years. We have 8 games to get Kellen ready and we will re-load in 2008. "
jersey jets fan Said:
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:53pm EDT"I don't know what's worse my eight yr old saying he wants to be an eagle fan next yr or watching the jets play like the bad news bears every week. Guys come on it's time to play some ball I don't know how many excuses I have left to tell him. GO JETS!!!!!!!"
Row Said:
Tue, October 30, 2007 - 1:39am EDT"I am so glad there are people who agree how ridiculous our OC is. I think Eric actually might change something this week b/c he went with Kellen. Seeing him throw the ball made me realize how weak Chad's arm really is, even though he did it on purpose. Eric, run first, use Coles and McCareins, Smith should get some spread offense. Lets run them up like Belichick! Ok, now I'll watch. GO JETS!!!"
Rob Said:
Tue, November 6, 2007 - 10:30am EDT"David Harris = Beast.....hmmm if he started the season maybe defensive rookie of the year...it still might happen"
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Rob Said:
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:09pm EDT"Well - if you want to get a ying/yang philosophy out of this - It looks as if Clemens will finally get the starting position and we will have a really good shot of draft a stud defensive end in the draft - which we should be 3rd in, right after Miami and St. Louis."
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