Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Laveranues, Ferguson, ColesChad, PenningtonJonathan, VilmaD'Brickashaw
09/09 — One of the main questions in the Jets' locker room following their 38-14 opening-day loss to New England in the Meadowlands was what it means about the distance between the two AFC East rivals. Was the difference the same as it was in the Jets' January playoff loss in Foxboro? Was the gap widening?
The players were most definitely not happy about the results, but they were not throwing in the towel over the chances of beating the Patriots in Week 15 or the Ravens in Week 2.
"I didn't know anything about a gap," said Laveranues Coles, one of the standouts in defeat with a pair of touchdown receptions from Chad Pennington. "We still get to play them again. Whenever that time comes, we have a lot of ballgames between where we have an opportunity to play. This was one ballgame, one out of 16. If we had just beat them twice but were 2-14, would we be good or would we be awful?"
Pennington, who stayed on the field and stood at the podium in the interview room despite an ankle injury suffered in the third quarter, pointed to what he called offensive "bursts of excitement" against the Patriots that "were presenting the problems"
"What we have to do is look at those things, build upon those things, be very critical of the errors and mistakes we made, and move on," the QB said. "Even if you win the game, you don't say, 'Well, we can roll our helmets out there from now on because we've made it,' because we haven't made it. It's definitely a 16-game season and they're all important."
LB Jonathan Vilma admitted to disappointment in losing the opener the Jets and the defense had been building toward all off-season and preseason.
"It's a little discouraging — you always want to play better in the first game," Vilma said. "But it's not the end of the season for us. We have 15 games left. It's just a matter of going back, regrouping and getting ready for Baltimore."
Of course, you can do the math and look up the history. The 24-point loss was the worst season-opening loss at home in franchise history, although there haven't been that many season openers at home. It was the largest season-opening deficit since the 31-6 loss at Denver in 1996.
But it helps to keep things in perspective. The Jets opened their 1981 and '85 seasons with 31-0 season-opening losses — and qualified for the playoffs both years. The Patriots opened 2003 with a 31-0 loss at Buffalo and went on to win a Super Bowl.
This says nothing about where the Jets are headed this season, just that, as Vilma calculated, there are 15 games left on the schedule.
As tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson said after his opening-day scuffles, "Whenever you're not successful, you're going to feel certain reservations. We know we're a team and can recover from anything."
And recovery right now is down I-95 in Baltimore.
Fans Respond
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Randy Lange Said:
"M K, see my pregame Radar entry on Mike going up to the coaches' box for the first time in his NFL coaching career."
Anonymous Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:10pm EDT"Did we even have a defensive line through out the whole game?"
joeboo Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:15pm EDT"i think the jets are in for a tough season.."
Don ... S Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:16pm EDT"Well the Jets ' Are not the problem.. Or the .. Problems . The players on defense, exception of 'rivas ' stinked up the place. In all of my years.. { and it seems like decades' I never seen a team with .. such high draft picks ' cant get it together 'on openning day. Need an make over. "
Bryan Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:22pm EDT"Thanks for getting rid of Pete Kendall. Now the O-line is a joke again. When are you guys gonna realize the front 3 on the defence isn't big enough for a 3-4? It's gonna be a long season..."
dougmc Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:28pm EDT"Clemons time has come because of his arm,not because of what Chad did or didn't do.Cheering Kellon as Pennington leaves field is horrible by clueless fans.Vilma couldn't cover my pool! Why is he running around chasing no one instead of blitzing all day?Poor performance by him and run defense!"
Joe Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:37pm EDT"I was at the game - what a let-down!. A couple of take-aways ... (1) I have even more respect for Chad - what guts! (2) there's no getting around the fact that their defensive line is terrible and (3) the o-line (especially D'Brickashaw) is looking terrible as well. What happend to Brick?"
Bart Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:40pm EDT"The interior defense is horrible, and the offensive line is below average. The Jets have no stars on defense, and it showed."
Joe Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:41pm EDT"Just to clarify my last comment ... I still feel that the defensive front 7 look awful because they are not 3-4 players. Mangini has forced a square peg into a round hole and the result is that arguably their two best defensive players before Mangini came, Vilma and D-Rob, are ineffective."
BigO Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:41pm EDT"Tell Chad to stop being scared to bomb the ball, or let Klemens get in there and go deep to make the points, The cornerbacks need to tighten up when they see the ball coming towards the receiver they need to make a play, dont wait until they catch the ball and then try to make a play. "
patrick velsor Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:43pm EDT"what an awful game.it seems like the offensive line cant create any holes for the running backs.nor do they protect well.the biggest mistake mangini has made was switching to the 3-4 defence.these guys were built for the 4-3 remember 2004 when they were one of the top defences in the NFL. "
dennis Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:46pm EDT"I think ALL the Jets fans at the game who cheered when Pennington went down should be ASHAMED of themselves. It's bad enough the Jets were outplayed on both sides of the ball and one of the many included no pass protection. Brady didn't even break a sweat!!!! "
Dwayne Higgs Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:47pm EDT"This game was a stepping stone. We will improve and we will win the division this year!"
Ira Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:00pm EDT"Randy, The players are 100% correct. You learn from this and correct your mistakes. Its only 1 game. Lets hope Chad is ok. Randy, very surprised that Harris didn't get much time today in the base D. Good point about those opening day losses. They usually bounce back well after a loss for Eric."
Peter Ho Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:01pm EDT"I thought the line play oand d was poor on reaction and push. No pressure and poor positioning on welker no bumping contact at cornerback d man cov"
mikemcc Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:04pm EDT"i think the pats played very well i believe they arent even at the top of thier game nieher r we. we just need some fixes as far as the trenches in opening some holes for the run game and getting a little pass rush. i feel brick has gotten a little better . do u feel he some times takes playes off"
Dennis Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:08pm EDT"LOWEST point in Jets history when Jets fans cheered Pennington getting hurt AFTER battling to get to his feet. I can't believe what I heard and saw. It's bad enough we played like a High school team, this just makes it worse. Hope your better Chad, lets work on getting it right next week."
Jake Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:23pm EDT"IM EMBARRASED!! I have been reading all of the negative comments on the previous posts!It is easy to sit back and be critical and say we are done and maybe you will speak it on them. Chad has more guts than the gorup of his critics together. My embarrasment is from you so called jets fans. "
Dan Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:26pm EDT"i am a little ashamed to be a Jets fan today and it has nothing to do with losing the game. Jets fan cheered Kellen's entrance into the game (very loudly) when Pennington crawled off the field with an injury. Have some class. Pennington has always given the Jets everything he had for us. "
Rob Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:33pm EDT"Embarrassing.. They were ill prepared and lacked any fire. This team should be ashamed for showing up on opening day, at home, against a division rival with as little fire and effort as they showed today. I have seen virtually every game in the last 3 decades and this ranks as one of the worst."
Charles Isasi Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:34pm EDT"The silver linings to this week's games are these: The Jets Scored...in the RED ZONE...as opposed to the familiar settling for the field goal. The Offense did their part. Defense adjusted to the run and was able to stop (the run) after the first quarter. Now just find out how to add QB presure ."
troy Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:36pm EDT"I dont care what game of the season it is ,if they decide to stick with the 3-4 D this team wont win 5 games,hate to admit it , 25 long die hard years,I bleed green,but this D or front 7, "secondary played well other than barrett"is a long way from being a formidable unit. could not be more upset"
Rob Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:46pm EDT"Pennington is a leader. The fools who cheer his injury should sell their seats. CP was undone by a bad game plan and no support. Brady stood there untouched and made Moss look like an MVP. Chad's the QB, a good one. WIth no running game, pass blocking, defense, or special teams he can't win"
Patrick Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:56pm EDT"What did you think about the fans cheering that Pennington was hurt? or were they cheering that Kellen came in?"
matt Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:57pm EDT"In reference to D'brick's comment about reservations. Perhaps the coach will have reservations about starting you after allowing Pennington to take that sack that quickly. Athough D'bick has great talent, he got beat up on pretty badly tonight, many times he was just overpowered in a one on one."
troy Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:59pm EDT"Uknow other than revis and K coleman,this is the same personel that started on D in 05 at K.C in a 4-3 scheme.Hey COACH n MR.T this team doesnt have the personel to run the 3-4 is this so hard to see.This might be manginis downfall not playing to his strengths on D which is the 4-3, ask j vil d rob"
Frank Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:00pm EDT"It seems our defense cannot play with teams of this caliber. There is no way we can expect to win without drastic change."
Mike Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:05pm EDT"Ultimate Lowlight of the game?? Jet fans cheering the entry of Clemens when Chad got hurt. P-I-T-I-F-U-L-L!! Now, as for the team. Vilma is being wasted in the 3-4. The front 3 aren't big enough and they can't put any pressure on a quarterback. The O-Line is an issue too. Can't run? Can't win!"
Ira Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:07pm EDT" This same D held teams to 18 pts a game last year. The Pats are a very good team and the Jets had a bad day. Lets wait until after the 1st 4 games to judge them. As for Chad even though the results were not the same he pulled a Wiilis Reed today. Lots of heart and guts."
JP Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:11pm EDT"Chad is certainly a warrior. At the podim inspite of his injury and saying how he and team need to look at the errors, be critical and move on - spoken like a true leader. Offense needs open running holes and protection. D needs to follow through with the 3-4. Hope to God they do. Go JETS."
troy Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:14pm EDT"OH Yeah,i would haved loved to be at the game today but i live in Houston Tx , the fans who booed Chad limping off the field can !@#$ off. This guy has given his heart to this team show a little respect, I would have been devasted to here that live in our own stadium,wasnt chads fault today.the D "
Sal Cottone Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:15pm EDT"If anyone thinks the back up will out perform pennington (133 rating) has rocks in there head, The defence and the offensive line should take the hit for this one, I would like to see the offence be more aggressive tru out a game instead of spurts, I guess you cant when your line is getting spanked"
Dan Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:20pm EDT"Sorry, couldn't find any positives about the game. The defense couldn't stop the run or the pass, the special team coverage was abysmal,and my 8 year surmised that every first down offensive play was up the middle with the running back ."
ken Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:31pm EDT"You probab;y WON'T print this, because it is NEGATIVE press for the JETS. But, typical JETS! I saw this even last year. The JETS DEFENSIVE line get absolutley NO PASS RUSH. And the JETS DEFESIVE LINE gets pushed off the line at least one YARD, almost every play. The JETS need a BIGGER DEFENSIVE"
Rob Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:43pm EDT"Was at the game today. Have to agree the cheering of Kellen coming on when Chad was limping off lacked class. However - this goes to show what we need - someone to throw it deep. New Englands Secondary never really got challenged. Also, we to put pressure on the QB - there was none, bring back 4-3."
jimmy Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:48pm EDT"They are clearly the better team with with a better coach"
vince coyne Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:51pm EDT"DENNIS.you/re spot on..that/s the exact comment i made to a female friend in NEW JERSEY today...imagine when the PATS will have SEYMOUR and HARRISON back in a few weeks time.they will really gel and will be the team to beat this year....wishing PENNINGTON a quick recovery...loyal PATS fan!"
Jay Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:06pm EDT"How can you even think of bashing Chad, look at the game stats..even without running game. And even with the D-line how much was it result of no blitzing? Pats had five lineman on 3 every down, how do you expect the d-linemen to get to brady?? Start believing in your d-backs and blitz sometime"
Ben Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:08pm EDT"I am so sick and tired of watching this team just get blown off the ball. Their run d is terrible and they can't tackle. They never look good opening day either. Looks exactly the same..an average to above average team at best."
Steve Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:09pm EDT"I agree with Troy, the front 7 for this D is the main reason why we can't win. We were able to scratch by last year, but let's be honest, nearly every team had a field day running against the Jets. There are no plays made at the point of attack and virtually zero plays for loss. "
Viveca Elworthy Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:16pm EDT"Disappointing start. Our players don't fit the 3-4 system. We need a lot of help on both lines. Lots of question marks on both. Ugly reaction of the fans to cheer when Chad was hurt. So now we have a mediocre team and classless fans??Not much to be happy about."
Moto Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:23pm EDT"On a post-game show, Keith Olbermann declared that the worse people of the day in the NFL are Jets fans for cheering as Chad limped off the field un-aided to save a timeout. This isn't the behavior of a true fan. Everyone thinks we're despicable."
razmataz Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:26pm EDT"OL-D-, DL- C-, Coaching-C-, overmatched/overwhelmed. As we all predicted getting rid of Pete K, and lack of develpoment of DeBrick, was going to get Chad hurt. Tangini has to get a wide body for the middle of the D, you think they would have learned by now."
Charles Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:28pm EDT"Other than the parking... the only embarrassment was when MANY Jets fans cheered Pennington's injury. I was there and I felt embarrassed to be a Jet fan. Chad has more guts than any QB we've had since Joe. He's NOT the problem. We were beat off the line! No D No blocking No tackling NOT CHAD"
DUNNIE Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:34pm EDT"JETS FANS just got the dubious award of WORST IN THE NFL during the Monday Night Halftime show. This was due to their embarrassing display for Chad as he courageously made his way to the sideline in agaony. Definitely the worst day I have had as a JETS fan in 25 years. Embarrassing. Pathetic."
Bryan Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:36pm EDT"Clearly the biggest problem today was the o line and the defensive scheme. The o line gave chad no time to throw. they gave jones and washington no where to run. Its a miracle chad put together 2 td drives the way they played. And the defenses problem was that there were no blitz packages."
james Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:36pm EDT"I was at the game today and I'm embarrassed to call myself a jets fan seeing fans ( I did not ) stand up an cheer when chad went down.Chad has no backside protection.2 touchdowns an no turnovers.Not his fault they have no defense.It's time to get off Chad's back when things go bad for this team."
Jim Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:36pm EDT"The Jets were man handle on both the O-line and D-line today. Our O-line got no push all day and couldn't protect Chad. Our D-line was pushed around all day and couldn't even get close to Brady. The Jets need to get a lot tougher up front or else it's going to be a long season."
Dylan Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:37pm EDT"I think it is utterly ridiculous how the jets fans could cheer as the tem captain limped off the field, and those cheers weren't for his guts. Here is a guy who works diligently and puts his heart and soul into this team and the fans reward him with that when he is down. horrible just horrible!"
John G. Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:41pm EDT"What was MOST discouraging about the opening day loss is that the team was COMPLETELY DOMINATED on both the Offensive & Defensive lines! On defense, they DID NOT lay a finger on Brady all afternoon & on offense, they looked like "Swiss Cheese"! This is where games are won & lost and we were awful!"
Jack Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:48pm EDT"I cant believe how bad our D is . Its embarasing to be a fan .. Why wont Mangini switch back to the 4-3 Unill we have the right personel ? Brady had all day in the pocket and he completly picked us apart. This is horible in the 3-4 sceme its gonna be a long season wake me up when its over...."
Aaron Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:54pm EDT"I live in philly, and watching the game at the local sports bar, I couldnt get any audio. After reading how fans were cheering Pennington not being able to walk off the field and Kellen coming in makes me ashamed to be a Jets fan. Chad is absolutely the better qb for our team right now. Get with it."
Drew Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:55pm EDT"Is anyone really suprised by this outcome? The Patriots O-line is dominant and ours is not. This looked a lot like last year's playoff game. We cannot get to Brady. This has more to do with the Pats O&D line than anything else. If Chad is okay we will bounce back next week. Chad & Revis were pluses."
Joe Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:55pm EDT"If Chad had gone 16-21 167 Yds and 2 TD's in a win we would have said Great game. Shame on Fans in Stadium for Cheering Kellen"s entrance, at Chad's Expense. No Pass Rush Today Too Little Run Stop. No Holes for Jones. To Beat The Pats Put Brady on under pressure. This 3-4 works remember last year"
HerbyN Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 10:58pm EDT"Redskins fan here... thanks so much for treating Pete Kendall like garbage and forcing a trade to us. we had a bout 190 yards rushing today and decent pass protection... how did the jet's line do today? i hope the $1million that the jets saved by stiffing Kendal was worth it. "
Drew Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 11:01pm EDT"Hey Ira... I know the D-line was horrible but David Barrett is just not a very good corner. I know you like his game but I stand by what I have been saying..he plays way to far off his reciever. On 3rd and 9 and the Jets blitz he plays off Welker 10 yrds and misses the tackle?Revis looked good."
GJR Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 11:15pm EDT"Chad Pennington has more heart, guts and passion than the rest of the team that let him down. He also has more class than the despicable fans that cheered his injury will ever dream of. Be proud Chad. You are a true professional. Maybe next week your line will block for you."
ChuckVCP Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 11:25pm EDT"Chad did an outstanding job today and letting Kendall go is a big mistake on the GM's part. I wish I had the million, I would Have given it to him myself but now we must continue to suffer. What are we going to do against the Ravens defense and not being able to stop McGahee? "
jetsfan2heart Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 11:57pm EDT"Ashamed? emberassed? We lost a game to the patriots! you didnt see this coming? I cannot believe you call youselves fans. The first half we did awesome. if our oline and d line was so bad why was it so close at half time? Get off their case. its one game and it could have been alot worse! go jets!"
Wayne S Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:07am EDT"Same old story - No pass rush and porous run defense. Way too many 5,6,and 7 yard gains on first down. The 3-4 looks terrible, d- backs play too far off the receivers. This could be a very long season if they don't get it worked out. Where's Vilma? Doesn't look like the #1 out of Miami. "
jerry L Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:09am EDT"somebody should take a look at Adrian Clark.......he's awful... cant run block or pass block...where is Pete Kendall....also cant rush three men this strategy is ruined the defense...you have to do two things in this league......protect your Q and be able to go get the opposing Q..we can do neither"
Howard Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:14am EDT"well opening day is here and gone,and for those of you who want to put a positive spin on it,FORGET IT.the lines didnt do thier jobs.Woody MR T and COACH should choke on the million Kendalls not worth.some owners wont to win others want the profits.we are not doing whats best for the jets. "
Gregg from CA Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:27am EDT"Okay, "fans" - Win the lottery (a few times!), buy a team, and then run it the way you want. In the meantime, think about a few things: How much HC experience does BillB have compared to Eric? How long has he been building the Pats? Can you give players and coaches time to react to game experience?"
Anthony Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:31am EDT"The Pats and Ravens are big tests for the Jets, but will deff. get them ready for the rest of the season. Barrett needs to bump the receivers because he leaves 2 big of a cushion. The O line needs to make holes. Pennington played a great game and it was terrible to cheer when he was hurt."
Nick Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:39am EDT"The Jets D played with no fire the second half.Once the Pats scored on the kickoff they gave up.They didnt even play with fire when pennington got hurt. The offense played with more.Revis looked good for a rookie hopefully when dysons back revis can replace barrett on the otherside."
Erik Hernandez Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:51am EDT"Eric mangini i hope you read this i love the jets but with that 4-3 it aint going to work cause your star player on defense johnathan vilma my favirote player in the nfl is use to the 3-4 when the jets were in a 3-4 the deffense was an A+.I would like to be a linebacker and aS GOOD AS HIM."
Joe Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 1:10am EDT"One other thing. I know that they were trying to establish the run, but how many times are they going to run the ball straight up the middle? It was disgusting watching Thomas Jones run into Wilfolk and co for the 10th time. I think we need to hold off on Mangold's bust for Canton. The o-line stinks"
JetsWin1 Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 1:51am EDT"When will Bob Sutton begin to feel some heat???? What a pathetic performance by his defense and a complete lack of adjustments. I love Vilma but it's starting to get close to put up or shut up time for him. He's been a complete non-factor for too long to hope for a turnaround in this system. "
evan Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 1:54am EDT"Ppl. ripping on Pennington - i simply do not understand you. Im thinking possibly ppl were cheering his resilience in insisiting on walking off the himself. Literally, i wouldnt want any other QB for me team.That being said,i think we need to look at playing more 4-3.However,Pats just looked great"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 6:56am EDT"Barret is terrible,he teased everyone in preseason,he is terrible.Brick,terrible.WE cant run because no one respects Chads arm,love him,but its time to move on,just like pats with bledsoe.3 Guys covering on Moss play should be fined.Harris must play,trade Vilma while he still has 1st round value"
joe b Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 7:57am EDT"Been a fan since the beginning. Made a killing on SBIII ,took the Jets even. However yesterday was the lowest point I can remember. Even the NY Titans didn't get anything like that .ASHAMED to be a Jet fan today. We love you Chad "
Drew Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 8:25am EDT"Most of fans at yesterday's game and some on this blog are complete phonies. Chad "Franchise" is what jets fans should be proud of not not cheer when this guy is hurt. That's why I do not go to games, most of those 77,000 are clowns. Drink your beer and stay in the parking lot!!"
Ira Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 8:29am EDT"Drew, Yeah Barrett did have a bad game. No reason to miss that tackle on Welker. Any +'s were Coleman with 12 tackle and Revis. When you get beat like this you forget about after today. It happens. Now they have to get Clemens ready with the chance that Chad will be out next week. Keeping Tui +."
Drew Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 8:30am EDT"Why don't all of the genius Jet fans take a look at last year's final 8 games and stop crying about the 3-4. We just played a team that dominated the line of scimmage (just like last years playoff game) Relax!! I would think our head coach knows a little more about running a D than you guys."
Ira Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 8:42am EDT"Randy, If there is any truth to Leberfeld's story that would be unbelievable.Wonder if the league would fine the Pats or how they would deal with the situation?"
g.a. from pa. Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 9:07am EDT"any qb is going to shread you apart.... defensively you most have a sack threat! enough of trying to go right through a blocker..stunt and stunt wide enough to force an open lane for the dog! jets, jets ,jets!"
Joe Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 9:09am EDT"The Jets are just one of those sad-sack clubs that just can't put it all together. The shame of it is that they have good skill position players (d-backs, TE's, RB's, WR's and yes, QB), but both the "O" and "D" lines are pathetic. I can remember when just the opposite was true. Wait 'till next year."
Brian I Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 9:33am EDT"One thing has been consistent since Mangini has gotten here and you can take this to the bank....we make average running backs look like Walter Payton, and there is absolutely NO PASS RUSH.....time to smarten up Eric and not be so hard headed with the 3 - 4"
russ horton Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 9:50am EDT"This team was not prepared period. Offense lacked imagination and defense thinks stopping a run after 7 yards is good... the Entire coaching crew needs a good look in the mirror....one last think Corner backs who give ten yard cushions to speed recvers will have a long day in NFL.."
Charles winston II Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 9:55am EDT"I'm so disappointed that the jets didn"t try to acquire more (proball/playmakers) in the off season, and try to keep pace w/ New England; there lack of an attemp is now showing! I love Chad's heart, but we can not win a superbowl w/ him. Tom Brady and his Pats. are like Michael Jordan & the Bulls."
James Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 9:57am EDT"The D-line failed to pressure Brady all day and the secondary needs to tackle and be physical against these WR."
Xavion Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 10:01am EDT"I think there are plenty of positives to take from this game. On the other hand like everyone mentioned the O and D lines were over matched but if you look at what the Pats did and what we failed to do you can see why. In a 3-4 you need to have other players blitz such as line backers we didnt "
JOHNNYJET Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 10:13am EDT"HEY RANDY!! THE JETS NEED TO GET BETTER DEFENSIVE PLAYERS BRADY HAD ALL DAY TO THROW HE COULD'VE DRANK TWO CUPS OF COFFEE BACK THERE!! THE SEASON IS OVER AND WE GO INTO BALTIMORE NEXT WEEK GOOD LUCK JETS!!"
jonathan Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 10:14am EDT"i still cant get over how much we cheered when Chad went down! talk about having faith in your starting QB the first game of the year. i think we need to give him more support especially now. its not his fault the O line struggled yesterday. "
uncle joe Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 10:16am EDT"Hey Ira,Or Randy,Whos Leberfeld?and what was his story?"
Dylan Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 10:22am EDT"Lets face the facts we all knew it was going to be a tough game against a Pats team stacked like that but what bothered me was the fact that last year the offense was craftier, they ran reverses mixed it up and took some chances i loved that and i want to see that again? Why so conservative Randy?"
Schuyler Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 10:31am EDT"I agree with the posts about being ashamed. Chad was awesome out there. Secondly, there are some things to be optimistic about. The Jets showed the ability to pick apart a secondary and if we can get a pass rush our defense should play well. Brady had too much time for D-backs to be effective. "
linda Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 10:50am EDT"This is my 20th year sitting in the stands with my son, and I am totally, totally SICK of excuses!!!!!!!!!!!!! All we do is keep paying more $$$, more $$$$ for tiks and get to be discusted, aggrevated, and humiliated. I can't belive the Pats guy ran that kick back!!!! Where were our blockers?????"
BLAISE Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 11:47am EDT"WHAT HAPPENED TO FB BARNES ....GIVE JONES A LEAD BLOCKER I THOUGHT BLAYLOCK & BARLOW WERE IN THE BACKFIELD!!!"
Mark Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 11:56am EDT"Hey Jets, it's 2007. Try building your own stadium, move to another city and try the NFC. Your bid in the AFC (especially in the same division as the PATS) every season is nothing but a waste of everybody's time, space and oxygen. I bet that guy with the fire hat had a great day yesterday, hahaha"
troy Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:00pm EDT"Drew i disagree, what happend last season carries no weight right now, we dont have houston ,detroit ,minn.g.b.oakland waiting on the back end of the schedule this year. they showed no sign of being remotely close to being a decent D much less a playoff caliber D which is what they need to be or6-10"
Ira Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:00pm EDT"Anybody who says that they weren't prepared has no idea how hard and long these guys work all week. Uncle Joe, Leberfeld is from Jets Confidential. He reported that a member of the Pats was shooting signals from the Jets bench over to the Pats. If this is true the NFL has to come down hard. "
nyjetsfan26 Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:06pm EDT"LETS FACE IT, THE PATS OUT PLAYED US IN THE SECOND HALF. MANGINI HOW ABOUT RUNNING A SCREEN PASS WHEN THE PATS ARE SENDING 6 TO 8 PLAYERS ON BLITZES. O-LINE DID OK ON PASS RUSH BUT ON RUNNING PLAYS YOU COULDNT MAKE A HOLE FOR ANYBODY TO RUN THROUGH. DEFENSE YOU BETTER GET IT TOGETHER! RUSH, SACK"
mark Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:15pm EDT"The defensive performance was an absolute train wreck. We do not have the proper personnel to be play an effective 3-4 defense. The defense would be much better suited in the 4-3 alignment. I also saw very few blitz's called yesterday. You can not play a conservative defense against the Pats."
Rich Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 1:45pm EDT"Let's be honest, to be the best, you have to beat the best. Right now the Patriots are the best (in our division). If you can't open a hole on either side of the ball you're going to be beaten. Brady dosen't even have to wash his uniform for next week. We have some serious work to do. "
Christopher Gearin Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 1:49pm EDT"The defense was horrible and it only shows the them is still not ready for the 3-4 def. We need help on o-line and fast, Pennington played great, for what he had to work with, it is not his fault the o-line couldn't pass protect or run block. Cheering for Clemens was sickening...Go Chad!!!"
Lou Ganci Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 1:56pm EDT"Our pass rush looked anemic. If it doesn't improve, we can expect a number of blow-outs this season, and NOT in our favor. "
Schuyler Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 2:25pm EDT"And down come the armageddon comments, this is a 16 game season right? It's tough to come up with a gameplan, when the patriots changed personnel so much, there were a lot of question marks and no tape. In the mean time, we have 15 to go, which means that we could be 15-1, you never know. "
Rich Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 2:26pm EDT"It's not too late to think about a 4-3 defense, and I'd give Clemens a chance. An inch in height and a couple of pounds in weight isn't crucial. Chad is a great guy with a heart of a lion, but he has no arm, no speed, and no mobility. You can't rely on trickery to win. I really miss Kendall."
jake Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 2:27pm EDT"Get real people!! Most of you seem suicidal!! We have a classy coach a team full of guys with great character anyone with good sense would be proud!! Its the first game we got our butts kicked!! Big deal it happens!! Ask New Orleans, the Bears and the other fourteen teams. GO JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Don Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 2:29pm EDT"I was at the game and was absolutley disgusted when I heard fans cheering when Chad went down? As fans, what are you people thinking? Was he responsible for virtually no pass rush or was he doing the blocking and not opening holes for Thomas Jones? You people need to open your eyes."
JOHNNYJET Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 2:31pm EDT"HEY RANDY! THE JETS WILL GET THE #1 PICK IN THE APRIL DRAFT I GAURANTEE IT!!!"
jets13 Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 2:38pm EDT"Brady could have pulled up a sofa and poped open one with all the time he had,defense better wake up !"
PACO VAZQUEZ Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 2:43pm EDT"creo que los jets no jugaron con todo el potencial que poseen, preocupa que la linea defensiva no haya podido atrapar a Brady, , aunque mangini tenga un plan de juego en ocasiones debe utilizar cambios de estrategia cuando su corredor no avanza mas de dos yardas por acarreo, lee el juego eric"
Randy Lange Said:
"Paco, gracias por sus comentarios."
Nes1051 Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 3:07pm EDT"On my opinion the offense did ok, the Oline was not doing good with the running game.On Chad, he showed me toughness going out playing with an injured ankle,I dont belive he should have been booded. Defense,I know its the first game,I was disapointed on the way they played especially the D-backs!!!!"
Jake Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 3:08pm EDT"I am so glad we have some true fans that are willing to speak up. I have a suggestion for the others. Fans are like players either you buy in and produce with positive comments, cheering ,moral support,etc. and exhibit class. If you don't like it go watch Pete & the Skins & dump your Jets tickets."
Aaron Seymour Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 3:21pm EDT"our Ofensinve line is terrible, thas the real problem, they cant allow jones to rush properly, and they're letting three D-linemen to break through them on a 3 man pass rush, its crazy, they need to step up quick, or else it would have been a waste acquiring thomas jones"
pat maio Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 3:41pm EDT"The Jets have many holes to fill. Barrett has no place being in the starting lineup. I've said that for a few years. I was hoping for a creative twist to the defense. What a laugh. I'm losing faith in Sutton. Mangini got all raves last season but now it seems he getting to know the other side."
JB Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 3:44pm EDT"I was completely disgusted by the action so fthe fans in the stadium. Chad has been a class act. Face it, this was not chad's fault! maybe the D-fence's but not Chads! Anyways......... the NFL took a camera away from the PATS side line for investigation into CHEATING! Pathetic that they do it"
Tom Brady Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 4:43pm EDT"JB is right, it's not Chad's fault....he's only so good and there's only so much you can do with a sorry franchise like the Jets. Get ready to go 6 and 10. And for the 6 teams the Jets defeat, suicide is the only answer. Its so funny that you guys actually thot you had a chance yesterday, LOL"
Don Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 5:24pm EDT"And people wonder why Jets fans have a bad reputation. It's because of situations like yesterday which is now imaking its way through the national media and Jets fans are being bashed and rightfully so because the actions of some idiots who think it is fun to cheer when a player gets injured."
Gregg from CA Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 6:26pm EDT"Couldn't finish my thought last night - too little space here <smile>. I intended to mention what Jake referred to: SUPPORT your team, don't just be "fan"atical about thinking you know best how they need to develop. If you parented that way, we'd raise a generation of paranoid, spineless brats."
connie salyers Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 7:33pm EDT"I am a west virginia fan of the New York Jets because of Chad Pennington. He has more class than anyone I have met from New York. I am not a fan of New York fans. He gave the jets their season last year and no one remembers. It's a shame you have never appreciated him."
aosjo Said:
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 9:27pm EDT"Hope to see Chad back on the field and give the Jets another chance to the playoffs.....Plus he could again prove his critics wrong...how many times has he done that?"
Shane Benfatti Said:
Tue, September 11, 2007 - 4:12pm EDT"Chad contiues to prove what a class act he is on and off the field. For the fans who cheered when he got hurt it was tasteless and a disgrace. Think about all he overcame. He is a true leader"
luci Said:
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 3:51pm EDT"Remember true Jets fans we have another team to watch who can give us the true meaning of fan-nation the Cleveland Browns, they lose year after year and they pack their stadium week after week, true jets fans young and old can learn a valuable lesson from these supportive people our time is coming!"
luci Said:
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 3:58pm EDT"True jets fan would not have cheered for our injured quarterback. Be true!!! We all can learn a valuable lesion from watching other teams fans in the NFL We have the opportunity to be a part of something great to come. Lets not forget what Chad did for us last season, he lead us, have faith!"
Atom Stowell Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 4:02am EDT"Chad Pennington is the heart and soul of the Jets. Chad epitomizes the New York Jets. The little guy, the unknown,...the team who plays their home games at Giants Stadium. Whoever booed Chad last Sunday, are not true Jet fans! How can you not root for Pennington? He is our leader, he is the JETS!!!!"
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M K Said:
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:09pm EDT"Randy what happened to Mike Westhoff I didn't see him on the sideline today?"
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