Windy, Cold and Wet for Jets, Bills, Fans
Published: Sun, October 18, 2009 - 3:21pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Brad Smith, Jerricho Cotchery, Buffalo Bills, Rex Ryan, Roscoe Parrish, David Clowney, Kawika Mitchell, Danny Woodhead, Mark Sanchez, Jonathan Scott, Bryan Scott
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10/18 — It's not raining in the area around East Rutherford, N.J., as originally forecast, but the wind is whipping, the air is chilly and the skies are low and gray — a forbidding omen for one of our two Meadowlands combatants today, either the visiting Bills, who with a loss would slip to 1-5 for the season, or the Jets, who with a third straight defeat would fall to 3-3.
The Jets, of course, are counting on being the victors. It's Fan Appreciation Day today, and although the weather apparently wasn't dialed up for such an occasion, there will be much to get the fans ready to contribute to a loud, proud Green & White victory against their AFC East rivals from northwestern New York State.
Rain or not, the conditions will be a test for both offenses. Mark Sanchez and the Jets, in particular, are facing just the situation they feared at their wideout position: both Jerricho Cotchery (hamstring) and Brad Smith (quadriceps) have been deactivated for this game.
That means that the starting WRs for the Southern California wunderkind QB will be Braylon Edwards, who looked so strong in his Jets debut on Monday night at Miami, and David Clowney, who had his longest regular-season reception as a pro with the 53-yard hookup with Sanchez early in the fourth quarter.
Also among the WRs who will be going against the Bills defense today: Wallace Wright and Danny Woodhead, the latter converted to a full-time WR from RB this week and signed from the practice squad to the active roster Saturday.
To help pump up the offense for this very important Game 6, head coach Rex Ryan and his staff have named Clowney and Woodhead as two of their five game captains for this game. The other captains: C Nick Mangold, CB Darrelle Revis and S Jim Leonhard.
The Jets inactive list besides Cotchery and Smith: QB Kevin O'Connell, CB Donald Strickland, CB Marquice Cole, LB Ryan Fowler and G Matt Slauson. Erik Ainge is the third QB.
The Jets defense wants to get after Trent Edwards, Marshawn Lynch, Terrell Owens, Lee Evans and company, and you have to figure the wind will be play some havoc with Trent deep balls. In addition, the Bills have more injury problems than the Jets.
Starting LB Kawika Mitchell was placed on injured reserve on Wednesday, their starting offensive line will have rookie Jamon Meredith starting at RT for the deactivated Jonathan Scott, their deep middle will have rookie Jairus Byrd starting at S for the deactivated Bryan Scott, and Fred Jackson will take over punt- and kickoff-return duties from the deactivated Roscoe Parrish.
The Buffalo IA list besides J.Scott, B.Scott and Parrish: DBs Ellis Lankster and Todd Johnson, RB Xavier Omon and DE Chris Ellis, with Gibran Hamdan as the third QB.
The Jets are in their green jerseys and white pants for this AFC East battle while the Bills are in their white/white unis with the navy numbers and navy and red trim.
The referee today is Walt Coleman, who is the ref for his 16th Jets game. His first was a home upset of Miami in 1995, his most recent was last year's home loss to the Broncos in Week 12, and the Jets' most memorable game with Coleman presiding was the Monday Night Miracle win over the Dolphins, 40-37 in OT, in 2000.
Now it's time for the usual drill: We'll update this pregame blog if required, but for the most part it's less than an hour away from our usual CoveritLive coverage of the game, with Eric Allen moderating your comments. I'll chime in with appropriate tweets that will appear on http://twitter.com/nyjets and also in the CoveritLive chat. After the game, you can read my game story (updated with quotes as soon as possible after postgame interviews), EA's locker room blog and Kyle Richardson's sidebar.
Appreciate ya. Now let's have a great game.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (58)Angela Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 7:54pm ET"If I hear that Sanchez has never played in weather this cold one more time as an excuse for his terrible play...I'm going to scream. Where did he think he was going Miami?"
schuyler Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:11pm ET"wow..........Just WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW. Life as a Jets fan................................................................."
TonyR Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:14pm ET"Jones was the Jets player of the game and Sanchez was the Bills Player of the game "
Anonymous Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:21pm ET"Sal, you got it right! We have a loaded gun, but pointed in the wrong direction. At ourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a disappointment."
phil Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:24pm ET"We were outcoached by Dick Jauron. You have got to be kidding. Shottenheimer must be asleep- how many times did he call pass when he should have run? I can't stand it. "
Alan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:25pm ET"This team is so talented all around, Honestly, i wish the Bye week wasnt so far away, these next 2 games are must wins so we can go into the Bye 5-3, and piece it together, If the defense and the Offense could just stay on the same page, Mark Sanchez played bad, but not horrible, 3 of those picks, were tipped right into the defense's hands, and Keller better never complain about being thrown to "
Joe b Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:30pm ET"This team is your same old Jets. I have been a fan since the first Titans game and I have watch this organization under perform year after year. We had our one glorious moment when Joe Willy sold his soul to the devil. This is a doomed franchise and any player with great ability will be out of town as soon as their contracts expire. Edwards, Leon and Revis will go where they can win"
coz lafauci Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:33pm ET"why must we suffer like this , why did'nt ryan put clemens in . i mean 5 int's it's pretty ovious that mark is not on his game"
John Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:34pm ET"Schottenheimer wasn't the person who threw 5 interceptions and numerous other bad passes. He also wasn't the one who took a 20 yard sack instead of throwing the ball away. Sanchez cost us this game as he did in NO. His game is going downhill week to week and that is not good. The D played great but couldn't overcome all of the offensive mistakes. Gotta get Sanchez straightened out, FAST!"
scjoe Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:39pm ET"Sad, very,very,sad! But not a surprise, I have stated it over and over again, the Jets, just can not beat the teams that they are "supposed to beat" Not just this year, but over and over again through out the years. I don't care who the owner is, who the coach is, who the QB is, same "ol" results. SAD!"
Viveca Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:43pm ET" We were sucked into believing we had a good team.We don't ! Good teams don't lose a game like this. Slappy performance and poor coaching. Sanchez looked terrible even for a rookie. If he can't play in rough weather conditions we're in for a long season--AGAIN! We looked like we did under Kotite! Same bumbling, penalties and screw-ups..."
greenjello Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:45pm ET"worst game ever! even after clevland! same old jets yes..same old defense..no! same old crappy qb and offense cooridinator yes! disagree? bring in KC! at 3-3, we still have a chance and I'm sure that is what Kellen thinks! "
BRIAN Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:48pm ET"What is rex doing when your rookie does not have it and understand trying to grow him but the fourth quarter would have been the time to sit him .He should have went with the back up mark was not only not effective he was killing the team.It is the same old story new england in first and the jets free falling !!!!!!!!!"
36 year fan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:52pm ET"Lets be honest with ourselves. The Jets looked like crap. We made two of the NFLs' worst organizations look good. A backup QB out of Buffalo? Come on . Where's the pass rush? We cant stop a 2nd rate rushing attack. Coaching is bad. stupid penalties all over the place. Even when the game is on the line. Sickening. There is No excuse ."
dmbl Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:54pm ET"the most heartbreaking day yet. no guts, no heart, no brains. i am done, goodbye losers. "
Anonymous Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 8:56pm ET"what a pathetically play called game, we were running at will and yet they kept calling for sanchez to throw the ball in conditions he's not used to, how stupid is that!! The bills never stopped our running game but schottenheimer kept putting sanchez in a position he should not have, schottenheimer needs to go and rex ryan better realize that talk is cheap and his jets look like the "same old jets"
kimosabe Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:04pm ET"good thing this is the easy part of the schedule....The whole team gets an "F" especially the coaches!!!!"
Chip from Syracuse Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:06pm ET"Why is it we signed a QB who has never played in weather below 50 degrees? Is this some sort of twisted joke? The team is based in Northern Jersey for Christ's sake. His performance today was pathetic and embarrasing. The use of the term "performance" is actually out of line. I call the fould on myself."
mattierich Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:08pm ET"this team is becoming more and more disappointing every week. i feel like their heads got huge after their 3 game winning streak and now they cant do anything. sanchez looked pitiful out there today and the defense looked even worse. pick it up and lets get a win next week!"
36 year fan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:08pm ET"We should have just tried kicking that long field goal. There are alot of hard questions we must ask ourselves. These were the easy games. Botched . Why waste a timeout review for 6 yards when the game is on the line? Why cant we call timeouts at the end to stop the clock? Like smart people do.We're lookin' foolish. How come our defense can't touch the QB ? Is there an unpenitrible wall ? "
MIKE Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:08pm ET"Wow. Sanchez is the future and moving up to get him was the right thing to do. But today was the worst QB performance by a Jet I have ever seen. His throws are always a little behind or to high. 4 of 5 picks were definatly his fault. TJ looked great with Leon. Teams have figured out the overload blitz. Face the facts,we don't have a pass rusher. This has been Jets achilles heel since Abraham left."
Jonathan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:14pm ET"Disgusting! Jet fans have to start to be likened to Cubs fans. We are lovable losers. Our teams always let us down and even when they show promise we are always waiting for reality to set in. I'm 34 years old and have never seen our team in the Super Bowl. They have made it to the AFC Championship twice. We are the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions. Lets not kid ourselves."
Anonymous Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:23pm ET"5 Ints or no Ints, our offense is not showing much special except for today's running game, and today's running game only. Schotty lacks creativity, and its too predictible. I know we have a rookie QB but is the OC's job to analyze and at least make the call today to remove Sanchez, Schotty under estimated the Bills, and kept Sanchez on to redeem himself but he was just outta sink. REX take charge"
jiapichela Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:29pm ET"same old jets . hey rex when are you going to make a quarterback change. you start 3and 0 and they will finish in last place. poor coaching and a overated qb. "
steve Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:32pm ET"I've seen some real bad games since 1967 but this has to be the worst overall performance from 2 teams I've ever sat through! Ticky-tack calls from refs dont help either. Just a lousey game from both teams. 2nd coming of Joe Willy Namath? More like Browning Nagle today! 5 INT's!? U gotta be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!"
punch Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:37pm ET"at the moment this kid is not a pocket QB need to more rollouts to prevent DBs sitting and waiting for the ball to be delivered on a silver platter oh yehh trade with washington for cooley would be good and clemens would find himself as a starter"
Greg Goldblatt Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 9:59pm ET"It is so disappointing to see your team give the game away two weeks in a row! At least in the loss against the Saints, we played one of the best teams in the league, but Miami?, Buffalo? Come on! We have the talent on both sides of the ball, and what good is the spectacular play of TJ, when we had so many turnovers? Could the coaching and the play calling be the problem? "
patsfansince1981 Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:07pm ET"Really!! you guys all get what you deserve. You need to learn how to be real fans and support the local boys in good times and bad times. The jets are a solid team with a ROOKIE quarterback. The kid is the best thing to happen to the Jets in years. He will have some bad games but he is the future of the Jets. "
ken Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:19pm ET"Our qb clearly has lost his confidence. TIME TO CHANGE!!!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:43pm ET"That's funny, Steve, 'cause I sat through several Namath five-pick games in much better weather. From Bradshaw to Manning(s), I've seen QBs play just as bad as MS today and often on much better teams. Joe B, BE, Leon, and Revis will DEFINITELY leave if too many so-called "fans" tell them the Jets are "a doomed franchise." Why don' t you go root for some other "doomed franchise" like the Raiders?"
Alan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:56pm ET"Honestly, Blaming Sanchez for everything is Rediculous, Yes he played horrible, but was he the reason for the 6 Penalty's we had in OT? Not to mention, DK complained about not getting the ball all week, and drooped like 6 passes today that were right in his hands, in fact everybody was dropping Passes, all Rookies have a bad couple games, Peyton manning had a horrible rookie season. Time. JETS!!!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:57pm ET"When it takes A PATS FAN to tell Jets fans how to have a little patience, much less class, much less brains, you KNOW our posts are hovering at the cretin level! Just this week Feely quoted Vinatieri that "superstition is mental weakness" and then half our posts reek of superstition -- "same old Jets," doomed franchise, etc. dmbl, YOU'RE THE LOSER, please DO let the door hit you on the way out!"
BC Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:46pm ET"Time to accept reality. The Jets are going to have ups and downs this year with a rookie quarterback. They were never going to the Super Bowl this year anyway, so just let Sanchez take his lumps and hopefully get some playoff experience. That said, 3 and 5 at the bye is a distinct possibility based on how they're playing."
govybear Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:32am ET"Interesting comments. Ryan says he thought about pulling Sanchez, but then says he gives the Jets the best chance to win. Why, does he really think Clemens would throw 6 picks? Does he really think Clemens would have a rating worse than 8? Where is the line where Sanchez doesn't give the best chance to win, after the 4th loss in a row? "
Row Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:13am ET"I think Keller should sit next week for the game he had. I also think it's time to bring in KC, I never had faith in Sanchez, and I wanted him to succeed, but it's time to salvage the season. We can win now with KC. TJ 200+ yards on the ground and it's wasted b/c of 5 stupid throws! HORRIBLE QB PLAY! "
Ray Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:33am ET"Okay, '64 Tom, take a breath!! I definitely can relate to what your saying and respect that you want to keep the faith. But after that performance you have to let everyone vent for a while. Besides, you have to admit, it's like deja vu all over again! You can change the players and the coaches, but somehow I feel like I've seen this movie a hundred times before. I already knew the ending."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:02am ET"Ray, my view is venting is what adults do, usually with some sense of reality and behind closed doors. What a lot of folks on this site are doing is what children do and it's called acting out, in this case acting out their rage that they can't have an SB-winning team RIGHT NOW! Row, I've seen the Jets short-sightedly "salvage the season" at the expense of the future a few too many times already."
Pats Fan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:04am ET"Hahaha, it's so funny to watch how you guys whine after a loss to the Bills. You're so creative too with your decisions ... "change the QB." Haven't you guys run through 3 QB's in the last two years with no results? I dunno if it's really Sanchez that's the problem here, maybe you guys should wake up and learn how to call plays. "
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:25am ET"Also Ray and Row, probably none of us has or ever will run a business as big as an NFL team. But if you see it as running a business, which it is, you gotta be ashamed of many of today's posts. Try walking into any business and "venting" as destructively as folks are doing today or scrapping your business plan every few weeks and see how long you keep your job. "Same old Jets"? Same old Jets FANS!"
joe b Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 8:34am ET"Jets Fan Since '64: you have been through this before and do you not think this is a cursed franchise. I've seen other stars become disenchanted. I've seen too many of our stars sign somewhere else when their contracts were up. This team is not as good as we thought they were going to be. If we lose one or two key players we will be picking in the top 10 again come April."
marko Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 9:23am ET"Woody should start considering a roof for the new stadium if Sanchez is going to be his star QB."
Anonymous Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:11am ET"Sanchez is not to blame for dropped passes (Keller), poor protection, horrible game plan (Shotty) and a missed field goal. The person that should leave is Shotty, he made Chad look bad, Favre and now Sanchez!!!! Also, our Def. looked bad too, Scott is useless."
Lee Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:12am ET"If Woody was sitting in my seats instead of a nice dry warm box; maybe we would have a retractable roof on the new stadium. "State of the arts" I don't think so!!!"
Tony Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:27am ET"Its a shame we have lost two important div. games in a row. Mr. Rookie QB needs to throw to his own team. He is not the only one to blame though as its a team effort. Im just really disapointed in our team, with such a great start to the year and now back to the good ol Jets faling under pressure."
bkjetfan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:28am ET"wow, with all the negativity going on with sanchez, all the so called "fans" that were so happy when they were 3-0 just became 2-faced... your not REAL fans, he's a rookie, face it, he's going to make alottttt of mistakes like he did. im glad Rex is leaving him as the starting QB cause he wont learn without it. we'll see what happens by week 8. maybe we go 5-3 is that bad? wow so "2-faced fans""
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:43am ET"I just don't believe in curses, joe b, or goblins or witches, not even this time of year. Are the Raiders "cursed" the last few years or "blessed" 'cuz they've won some SBs? Or maybe the "curse" is lifting, they won yesterday. No, the point is all this giving up on players, coaches, the whole team at the first sign of trouble is a disgrace. "Damn, they played awful" I get, "we're doomed" I don't."
Anthony Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:24am ET"bkjetfan, I can't agree with you more. I think everybody forgets that Sanchez is a rookie - like it or not. He is going to make tons of mistakes, especially when top WR's are injured. To all the fans who are losing faith, remember what Peyton Manning looked like in his rookie year? "
Aaron Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:25am ET"Listen its simple Sanchez is a rookie who cracks under presure he is not experienced enough to lead this team to or through the playoffs .... who the heck is making these calls I dont think its Rex Ryan hes too good of a coach... TAKE SANCHEZ OUT BEFORE HE KILLS OUR SEASON!!!!"
Row Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:36pm ET"I understand the NFL is a business, and we should have played to win the game. Even though Sanchez is paid like a franchise QB, he is allowed to be pulled after some of the worst QB play I've ever seen! 6 games, 5 fumbles, 10 INT'S, 2 pick 6's. I also stated earlier that he is "playing like the next Rex Grossman". I'm not trying to be negative, but at least remember my past comments. Go Jets"
not a jets fan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:40pm ET"I watched this game and couldn't believe how Sanchez didn't even look for his other receivers he had a player in his head and said i'm going to them on each play it seemed to always be keller or edwards might as well only had one WR on the field clowney caught every pass thrown his way last week and I saw him open a couple of times but sanchez just wouldn't look the field over "
Ray Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:16pm ET"Well, all I can tell you '64 Tom is that I've been in here since before last season and I guess I am numb to all of this by now. It's a replay of last year. When we were 3-0 the posts were just like when we were 8-3 last year, a bunch of playoff and SB talk. And now it's just like the last 5 weeks of last year, it's all gloom and doom. That's why I don't make predictions. Predictions are...."
Ray Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:23pm ET"....just an invitation to the football gods to rip your heart out. Really, who in their right mind thought that we were going to win a SB because we started 3-0? Rex is a good coach, but he's a rookie too, he's going to make mistakes. We are seeing growing pains for Sanchez, painful fun to watch. Bottom line, the vast majority in here set themselves up for this with unrealistic expectations."
Vinney and the Jets Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:36pm ET"This is my 40th year going to the games (at least I've seen the Jets win a Superbowl). Maybe its us old fans? I try real hard not to do the "Same old Jets" stuff, that never got us anywhere. But nothing seems to change either. Even Parcells in his prime couldn't get us a S/B. Maybe some of you younger fans can bring new life? I just hope the seats in the new stadium are wider. At least I'll be "
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 6:04pm ET"Hear ya on MS in the 3 games, Row, but then he had those first 3 and we didn't overreact to that -- or at least like Ray says, those of us who didn't start talking SB didn't! Vinney, the folks me and my family sat with at Shea from '64 on were LIKE family, but I think some Jets fans got the idea from the SB win that we were destined for valhalla. Seems to have messed with their heads a bit since."
Aaron Said:
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 1:26am ET"There was a comment made about loving Sanchez when they were winning and then being two faced by not liking him now after 3 losses. I have been a jets fan a long time clemens should be this teams QB when the game is on the line you have to be able to not crack under pressure Sanchez is the wrong choice for starting QB I believed that in preseason and now!!!!!!!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 8:40am ET"Your calmly-stated support for KC intrigues me more than mere wishful thinking, Aaron, so let me ask you in the same spirit: What's KC done as a Jet to give you this confidence in him? When's he performed all that well under pressure? When's he had 3 games anything like MS's first 3 this year, and against such good teams? And if he does, what armor does he have against the film they'll get on him?"
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sal Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 4:24pm ET"the offence will kill the season, not because of the talent totaly , like I said for the past 3 seasons its Shotenheimer, and maybe this will be his last "
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