H. Green: From Captain to Cousin vs. Cousin
Published: Fri, September 18, 2009 - 3:40pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Shaun Ellis, Sione Pouha, Jarvis Green, Rex Ryan, New England Patriots, Kris Jenkins, Howard Green, Houston Texans, Big Katt
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09/18 — It's been easy being green — not just as a Jet but as Howard Green — the first two weeks of this season.
The night before the Jets' season opener against the Texans, Green found out he was going to be one of Rex Ryan's four game captains in Ryan's first game as an NFL head coach.
"That was maybe my second time being a captain," Green told me today in the locker room at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. "I appreciate the honor and the opportunity from Coach Rex and everybody."
Ryan introduced Green along with Alan Faneca, Kris Jenkins and James Dearth as his game captains during the team meeting at the Jets' Houston hotel. The veteran nose tackle said he never saw it coming.
"I was like OK," he said, illustrating his reaction with a raised eyebrow. "I appreciate it, but it made me think about it, what was the reason."
The reason was a Rex Ryan special. The coach has a great grasp of his players' situations and backgrounds. Howard, who grew up not too far from Houston in Donaldsonville, La., was actually a sixth-round choice by the Texans in the first draft of their existence in 2002.
"It felt good to be back in town — that was my first time actually playing there since then," he recalled. "I really forgot all about being drafted by them. I wasn't thinking too deep into it.
But after he got his honor, Green said, "I wanted to go out and represent my team well. We came out of the game with a win, and that was enough for me."
Enough, that is, until this week, which isn't a surprise at all. Green gets to go up his cousin, Patriots D-lineman Jarvis Green, on the Meadowlands turf on Sunday.
"I played him before, last year when he came out to Seattle," said Howard, a Seahawk in 2007-08. "It's a good thing for the family to get a chance to visit, spend time together and see everybody."
And when he says family, he's not talking about a foursome. Howard (who's also got another second cousin, Skyler Green, who's played in the league) has some 17 family members and friends coming to the Meadowlands on Sunday from Louisiana and other parts of the country.
The two talked Tuesday, not so much trash as tickets. After those negotiations were concluded, "We said a few words, kind of kept it brief. I told him I'd see him Sunday."
And may the cousin with the better team win.
The Latest on Jenk's Back
Green factors into the Jets' defensive plan for the Patriots, as he did for the Texans. Ryan said at today's final news conference of the week that he expects his other noses, Kris Jenkins and Sione Pouha, should be ready to go Sunday, but both Jenkins (back) and Pouha (ankle) have been limited at practice all week and are listed as questionable to play.
All Jets fans, of course, are interested in Jenkins' situation, and Ryan said he, his coaches and the Jets' trainers and medical staff will monitor Big Jenks during the game.
"I like to keep fresh pass rushers in there. You like to roll your defensive linemen," Ryan said. "But Kris, he's such an usual guy. He's a guy who, if he's not in there, the other team will actually no-huddle you so you can't put him back on the field. He's that kind of difference maker.
"I feel good with the guys we have behind him, but obviously there's only one or two Kris Jenkinses in this league. But you've got to be smart with him. Generally if we're backed up or something like that, you can usually give him a break."
But DC Mike Pettine's gameplan doesn't call for the Jets' defense to be backed up a whole lot on Sunday.
Big Katt Lives Again
Staying with the D-line theme today, Ryan also was asked about the return of DE Shaun Ellis to the mix after sitting out the opener on NFL suspension.
"The guy's been around the game so long — he's a pro," Rex said. "I did ask him when he came back how bad was it watching TV on Sunday. He was like, 'Oh, it was horrible.' He's so used to playing. He's an ironman. I don't know how many games he's missed throughout his career, but it hasn't been many, that's for sure."
My Sunday morning advance on the Jets-Patriots game will focus on Ellis' return to action.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (22)Peter Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 4:07pm ET"I heard Rodney Harris on ESPN sport radio talking about the RHODES EMBARRASS comment. And RODNEY HARRIS was clearly UPSET when talking about RHODES. That should tell YOU how STUPID RHODES comments are. When RODNEY HARRIS clearly gets UPSET when talking about RHODES comments with you MICHAEL KEYS on the air..it tells you that RHODES has just given the PATS even more reason to embarrass the JETS."
Ira Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 4:20pm ET"Harrison shouldn't comment about other players. Randy, wasn't Harrison suspended for 4 games for steroids back in 07?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Ira, Rodney Harrison was suspended for the first four games of the 2007 season for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy. He said at the time, "I want to make it clear that never once did I take steroids. I did admit to the commissioner that I took a banned substance.""
Violeta Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 4:41pm ET"I do not think Rhodes coments can heart the Jets. Everybody is free to talk. Remember FREE SPEECH. I really do not think the Pats are 100% good not Brady, not his D without Bruschi and Co. "
Peter Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 5:39pm ET"All the Jets are going to be revved for this game. Belechek knows this. Gholston may be the key. They'll line up Moss, Welker and Galloway on the same side. Send the first two long and use the hyper pursuit of the revved Jets to follow a hand off to the running back to that side. Reverse to Galloway means Gholston will have to stay where his lane is and wait. Second play of the game. "
uncle joe Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 5:53pm ET"You talk all you want Rhodes,punch them in the face from kick off to final gun.They are coming in OUR HOUSE trying to EMBARRESS US AGAIN.It's a new Era,Buttle said it correctly,this D could be the best in 50 years.Ryan ain't talking too much because he wants this to be about his players not about him.All the past Jets players,Sunday is for YOU,Take Full Advantage of it & ENJOY every SECOND of it!"
uncle joe Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 6:02pm ET"Still hammering out my new Sanchez sandwich w/ Rex Fries(R shaped fries)half time,hot roast beef,roast pork and turkey sandwiches.Sal is going to Maryland for giant Blue Claws,clams & shrimp,we also having linguini in clam sauce,fish n chips & scungili in sauce w/corn on da cob,garlic bread and cases of Ice Cold Beer.The ground will be SHAKING in STATEN ISLAND my Green Bleeding Brothers N Sisters "
supercooljetfan Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 6:41pm ET"what was tom brady saying about us like a year or 2 ago that didnt get as much attention as rhodes comment...dont remember but it was something like he hated the jets "
kaya Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 7:09pm ET"Man, Uncle Sam - you need to invite me over for this game."
HDR Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 7:31pm ET"As a JET fan who lives in Houston, I can't tell you how gratifying it was for me and my wife to walk into Reliant Stadium. She wearing a white M Sanchize jersey and me in my white Revis jersey with all the Texans fans yelling the Jets **** and then watch how REX and his boys Kicked the crap out of those bums. I love everything about REX and know a CHAMPIONSHIP is near. GO JETS.."
scjoe Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 8:05pm ET"@Peter, calm down buddy, there has NEVER been a game won or lost because of what a player says about another team to the press.The only ones to get upset are the fans, well, some fans.The game has to be played out on the field regardless of who says what about who.We need to worry more about the pressure they get on MS and the pressure we get on Brady.Jets 20-17"
36 year fan Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 9:39pm ET"Who cares about who's upset on the Patriots!! Good . Everyone is so sick of the stinkin' Patriots. They think they're so hot . They're so smug. They think they're goin' to outwit everyone. NOT THIS TIME. Lets STOMP them out like they deserve. Godbless Rhodes . I'm with ya buddy. They make me sick."
Ray Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 1:41am ET"Interesting comment from Rex. I was thinking the other way. The will run the hurry up to keep KJ off the field. I was thinking they would run it early and often to wear him out."
36 year fan Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 4:27am ET"Uncle Joe, you're making me hungry."
36 year fan Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 4:30am ET"I got my bratwursts ready for the grill . A nice beer marinade. And more cold brew to go with it"
MikeMc Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 10:59am ET"Dag, nobody puts out a spread like Uncle Joe, its a shame we are Islands apart(LongIsl) cause I'd crash your party in a second. Ray & Spicer stop arguing with the Ex, you'd get more insight from an ice cube.Frank not sure Rex's mouth made this a must win as long as he has us play hard smart & physical we are on the right track. I like the confidence, but we need to back it up with pain & points."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 11:21am ET"This is1of many reasons I like Rex & believe he will get us to the promissed land ..Little things like knowing who drafted Green (Houston) then making him a captain in that game even at the risk of upsetting guys who have been here awhile..Instead of telling your players SHHHHH be quiet dont talk like children he makes them feel like grown men .."
commentman Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 11:51am ET"36 year fan is right about the Rhodes topic, im gonna be at that game tomorrow and im definitly going to scream untill my voice is gone, can wait, Uncle Joe i need your recipe"
uncle joe Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 12:26pm ET"I'll post my address one of these weeks and host a bash,just gotta make sure I could get bouncers just in case we all start arguing with eachother,we won't have Randy to sensor all the bad comments!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 2:02pm ET"Don't get all the fuss about what Rhodes said. This is the team whose QB predicted an SB win to make history, remember? I don't want players who talk like a Mangini, they might start playing like one. Bad enough we have to listen to politicians who carefully say nothing and as politically correctly as possible. Gimme guys who say yeah, we're gonna kick their butts, you gotta problem with that?"
Ray Said:
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 2:23pm ET"MikeMc, "arguing" is really giving him too much credit for having a logical discussion. You have just insulted all the ice cubes. Though he keeps trying to muddle the point with irrelevant other points, my ONLY issue is that he is was ripping someone with lies. Too many people in here will believe those things and start piling on without checking these comments. I can't let those go. "
Charlie D Said:
Sun, September 20, 2009 - 11:26am ET"I agree with the "Jet fan from 64" We need a coach that can motivate his troops before "going into battle" Rex seems to demonstrate this ability and that why I think in the long-run Rex will be successful SB or not. Go Jets What do you think fans."
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Ira Said:
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 4:01pm ET"Getting Ellis back is big especially if KJ and Pouha are going to be limited. Green was a good p/u and can play. Also Ellis could line up at NT for some plays if needed. I remember watching B.Thomas play NT during camp sometimes. Rex is going to mix it up real well this week and throw as many curves to Brady as BB will to Sanchez. This is going to be a great matchup."
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