Jets-Eagles Always Follows KO Luncheon
Published: Wed, September 2, 2009 - 12:49pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Curtis Martin, Brad Smith, Wayne Chrebet, Marques Tuiasosopo, kickoff luncheon, Brooks Bollinger, Philadelphia Eagles, Jesse Chatman, final preseason game
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09/02 — The Jets' ninth annual Kickoff Luncheon is now under way at Cipriani Wall Street in lower Manhattan.
This year's theme is the 50th anniversary of the Jets/Titans organization. This year's Jets players have been introduced, as have a number of alumni, including Curtis Martin, Wayne Chrebet, Marty Lyons, Abdul Salaam, Wesley Walker, Kenny Schroy, Bruce Harper, Randy Beverly and Dave Hermann. Lyons is this year's honoree for epitomizing what it means to be a Jet. And the more than $650,000 in proceeds from this year's event will benefit the New York Jets Foundation and the Alliance for Lupus Research.
Eric Allen is attending this event and he'll have a report for us later in the afternoon. For now, as an appetizer to that story, I wanted to reminisce about another event that has been closely connected to all nine luncheons, and that is the final preseason game between the Jets and the Philadelphia Eagles.
In fact, the first kickoff luncheon in 2001 marked the start of the streak of preseason finales between the NFL's two green teams that will reach nine when the Jets and Birds meet at the Meadowlands on Thursday night. The routine is that the Jets hold their luncheon, then the team either gets on buses to go down to the City of Brotherly Love or gets on buses to go to the team hotel before the next night's home game.
I know what you're saying about the relative importance of this fourth game of the summer. Two points in that regard: One is that Bill Parcells more than once made the statement about the NFL preseason that "There is no such thing as a meaningless game."
Point two is that these Jets-Eagles games have actually been fairly interesting as young quarterbacks have stepped up and starred and players have produced some memorable plays as they've fought to improve their spot on the depth chart or their hold on a roster spot. And as plain as these games sometimes are around the league, they are also the last stop before the regular-season express leaves the station.
Here are summaries of the last eight Jets-Eagles games (home team in CAPS):
Aug. 30, 2001 — EAGLES 13, Jets 12
The first time the Jets and Birds began meeting regularly in the final preseason game. Second-round RB LaMont Jordan rushed for 86 yards on 15 carries. Free agent DE Mike Cecere had two sacks but didn't make the final cut. The Green & White offense was limited to four John Hall field goals.
Aug. 30, 2002 — JETS 23, Eagles 16
Top draft choice Bryan Thomas had a pair of second-half sacks. Free agent CB Andrew Davison had a game-high 11 tackles and tipped the last-minute pass by Tim Hasselbeck that LB Scott Bradley intercepted at the Jets 5 to thwart the visitors' late comeback bid. Davison made it to the 53-man roster.
Aug. 28, 2003 — Jets 17, EAGLES 9
In the Jets' first visit to Lincoln Financial Field, free agent rookie QB Marquel Blackwell got the only start of his NFL career and made the most of it, throwing first-half touchdown passes to third-round FB B.J. Askew and WR Jonathan Carter. Second-round LB Victor Hobson posted a game-high nine tackles.
Sept. 3, 2004 — JETS 28, Eagles 27
Second-year QB Brooks Bollinger took the Jets' offensive reins with 7:05 left and facing a 27-7 deficit and engineered the one-point win. Bollinger led drives of 65, 27 and 87 yards to touchdowns by RB Ian Smart (1-yard run) and WRs Terrence Stubbs (4-yard reception) and Matt Dominguez (1-yard catch with 8 seconds to play).
Sept. 1, 2005 — Jets 37, EAGLES 14
Many highlights for the Green & White as they opened a 27-0 halftime lead at "the Link." Free agent WR Chas Gessner caught a 35-yard touchdown pass from Bollinger late in the second quarter. Then S Rashad Washington threaded a third-quarter pass by the Eagles' Mike McMahon back upfield for a 99-yard interception-return TD.
Sept. 1, 2006 — JETS 20, Eagles 17
The Jets overcame a 17-0 deficit with fourth-quarter fireworks. Brad Smith, the fourth-round rookie WR fresh off four years as Missouri's QB, returned behind center to guide a field goal drive, then, after CB Drew Coleman's interception, a short march to his 9-yard keeper for the go-ahead TD. Finally the Jets defense pitched a goal line stand, with rookie Titus Adams and CB Derrick Strait stuffing RB Bruce Perry on fourth-and-goal from the Jets 1 with 1:21 left.
Aug. 30, 2007 — Jets 13, EAGLES 11
Jets QB Marques Tuiasosopo scrambled up the middle for the game's first TD on the first play of the fourth quarter for a 10-3 lead. Eagles rookie QB Kevin Kolb gave the hosts the 11-10 lead on a TD pass and two-point toss. Then "Tui" responded with a 15-play, 65-yard drive to Mike Nugent's game-winning 35-yard field goal at the final gun.
Aug. 28, 2008 — Jets 27, EAGLES 20
Fifth-round rookie Erik Ainge got his first chance to pilot the Jets offense and produced a comeback win. Ainge threw his first pro scoring pass, a 6-yarder to WR David Ball, for the 17-13 third-quarter lead, then led another drive to a Nugent field goal. After the Eagles tied it at 20, Ahmad Carroll recovered a muffed punt at the Philly 17 and three plays later RB Jesse Chatman (180 yards from scrimmage) carried it in for the go-ahead 2-yard TD.
If you'd like to see the Jets try to extend their preseason win streak over Philadelphia to eight games while trying to neutralize Michael Vick in what is expected to be his longest stretch so far in an Eagles uniform, tickets are still available for the game. There's not much time left, so click here to purchase tickets or to check out availability.
If you'd like to pass on this game, the next stop will be Houston, Texas for Regular Season Game 1.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (56)Anonymous Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 1:53pm ET"Wht are tickets available for tomorrow's game? Haven't the Jets sold all their season tickets for 2009? Season ticket holders are forced to buy the preseasons as well so this must mean the Jets aren't sold out. Does this mean that home game may potentially be blacked out? "
Randy Lange Said:
"No, anonymous, no regular-season games will be blacked out. Season tickets are sold out but individual game tickets remain."
Anthony Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 3:04pm ET"This sounds like a good time...Is it at Cipriani's every year?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Anthony, it's been at Cipriani Wall Street the past two years."
Row Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 3:40pm ET"I just want to see us get to Vick. We know it's gonna be a good game. I'll be watching. Gholston still needs to step up or we should start Murrel."
scjoe Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 5:11pm ET"Randy, looking at the past scores of the Jet-Philly preseason games, one can only say that OUR 2s and 3s are better then their 2s and 3s. It seems like we always play them in game 4"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 5:17pm ET"Why did we try to get that QB from NE?,because Denver wants Ainge & we are going full tilt for Marshall! A draft pick,I'd even give a 1,plus Gholston for Marshall & I'll get ANOTHER Jets tattoo!Do it like only You can Mr.T.Then give Marshall,Gholston's contract,PAY LEON & resign Randy Lange,EA & the Crew!"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 6:05pm ET"So X-Patriot Harrison is popping stuff about how the Jets don't got what it takes to overtake NE! The Don,Jetasaurus REX will have some special words for him!Early predictions(regardless of Marshall coming here)we will SQUASH NE in OUR HOUSE game 2.Can't wait to watch the hand shake,when The Big MAN towers over little Belichick at the end of the game!"
jet80 Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 6:26pm ET"Why dont we just wait and claim one of the Eagles WR's instead of Marshall who will take alot to get and even more $ to keep happy.Ira's been sayin it all along and hes right.Ms doesnt need a TO in his face his rookie year pushin him around.Ira know of any TE's that we could get,Simmons isnt goin to cut it and im thinkin we need to get Pociask back when the Buc's waive him."
Christopher Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 7:47pm ET"jet80...I heard we just signed Ben Hartsock after atlanta released him. Great move we so desperately needed a blocking TE. Everyone wants a WR, but I still think we are ok with what we have. "
36 year fan Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 8:45pm ET"We are in control of the whole B. Marshall situation. Denver is in the very weak position on this deal. The whole team is falling apart. Their new Coach, and management is a disaster. Who in their right mind would want to replace Cutler with Cassel? Now his second best player is leaving, for anywhere but there. I absolutely love it. We'll give, what we give.Take it or leave it. Thrs othr recievrs"
36 year fan Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 8:56pm ET"To tell you the truth,Marshalls good but I'd rather have A. Boldin. He's not happy either. Amani Toomer got released by the Giants. We could probably get him. We have good recievers that will develop too. Denver is hurtin' bad, we shouldn't give them too much. They'll take what we give.. and like it. They are on their way down... and they are in flames!!!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 9:07pm ET"uncle joe, you actually read somewhere that Denver wants EA or is that just your guess? I think it's WAY too early to let him go -- first we ignore him, then we get rid of him just as he looks good? That's dumb, MS or not. I'd still rather stick with our WR guys than take on possible trouble with Marshall. And I sure don't want to see Stuck or Clown go to Denver as part of the deal and star!"
36 year fan Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 9:13pm ET"We'll give David Harris for Marshall. And Denver, you should feel lucky we deal you anyone."
Patrick Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 9:40pm ET"How about our punting situation? Will it be Hodges or will we sign an nfl caliber punter when the final cuts are made? because right now, Hodges definetely does not look that good at all. What do you think Randy?"
Randy Lange Said:
"I like Reggie Hodges and thought three of his seven punts vs. the Giants were of high NFL caliber. The other four, not as good. If he can pull that percentage up, he's got a good shot of being the Jets' punter all season. "
Don M Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 10:13pm ET"DON'T DO IT MR. T. Don't give up Harris for Marshall. This guy is only about me, me, me. He will be trouble. Harris is too valuable. I'd rather see them pick up Toomer or someone off of waivers if they are that concerned about WR. He's another TO or Ocho Cinco and only cares about himself. Let's face it, this year is going to be a learning year for Sanchez. He doesn't need a pain in the you know"
JETSANCHEZ6 Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 10:25pm ET"why isnt anyone covering the Marshell ordeal? This is weak coverage here guys. Randy wat do u think will play out?"
MIKE Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 11:00pm ET"Even though Marshall is acting like a baby, he is probably a top 5 WR in this league. Players who could go: Gholston, TJ, Clemens, Stuckey and Clowney. I would hate to see any defenders go even Harris who I think playing with Bart Scott could turn into a pro-bowler. Untradable: Revis, Mangold, Jenkins, Faneca, Sanchez, only cause Denver tried to get him in draft. "
MIKE Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 11:07pm ET"Would love to see Jets in playoff's but there still a ways to go before we a threat win 10 or more games. Rookie HC, rookie QB, no #1 reciever, no dominate pass rusher. D and run game will keep it close but unless Sanchez has a little magic in arm than I think another to 15 draft pick is on his way. Just trying to keep it real. VG's 4 game tryout cause of suspended Pace, will make or break him."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 11:24pm ET" lets just go into the season with the receivers we have they have talent & will get the job done .. WE need a solid TE to go with D-K big time Pass rusher to wreak havoc on opposing QBs to complete this team "
Shep Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 11:52pm ET"NO WAY do we give Harris up for Marshall. This kid is the real deal, and will be around for years with Bart Scott to make sure we have the best linebacking core in the league. Keep your trouble-making receiver Denver, we'll get along just fine without him. I'm sure I'll be reading tomorrow that Mike T told Denver to slither back to Colorado, and we'll win the AFC East with the team we have."
Christopher Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 12:24am ET"I too have heard this David harris for Marshall...Please, please, please do NOT make that deal. The Jets had trouble dealing with Coles, and you think Marshall will just walk in here and be mr nice guy? He is a cancer we don't need. Other WR's will come and the ones we have now will develop. This year is all about Defense and ball control, we're not trying to be the Colt or Pats."
Christopher Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 12:38am ET"Again please please please do not trade Harris for Marshall. We have not even signed Leon yet, and if Mr T brings in a high dollar WR before signing Leon, we can kiss Leon goodbye too. Mr T has done an ok job, please do not ruin this team by pulling these desperate moves i.e. Farve last year, I'd rather go 6-10 this year and build on what we have then to give up the future to go 10-6 this year."
Mr. Green T Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 12:45am ET"Please do NOT trade Harris for Marshall!"
Ray Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 2:23am ET"36 year fan what are you talking about? We aren't giving David Harris to anyone! Did you mean VG?? You must be nuts, that is the worst comment ever posted."
Ira Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 7:03am ET"Nice signing by Mr. T with Hartsock. A very good blocker that can fill a need. Not the same as Baker but he will do considering they were ready to bring back Bubba. jet 80, I wouldn't be surprised if they trade for or p/u off waivers Baskett or Brown. Brown has better #'s but Baskett is 6'4" which would give them that tall WR with experience. Hope Simmons is the #3."
Ira Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 7:18am ET"Please lets stop this Harris for Marshall talk. Makes no sense. Rex comes in as a defensive coach has Pace suspended for 4 games and then he is going to trade away Harris after Harris looks like he is going to have a breakout Pro Bowl season is crazy. The Jets will be fine. The real truth is Keller is their go to main WR/TE. They do need a veteran WR and will get one but it won't be Marshall. "
Ira Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 7:24am ET"And why would you want to trade Ainge. The kid has showed a lot of potential and its highly unlikely that Kellen will be back next year. So Ainge is a good young QB to back up Sanchez. I want to see some players step up tonight and make a case for them to make the team. Murrell needs some playing time. GO JETS!!!!"
uncle joe Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 7:34am ET"Hey,Jets Fan Since"64 Tom,the EA thing was just me rambling,sorry.But why WOULD we want NE's waived QB?makes no sense.Giving up Harris is rediculous,the only way he gets off this team is if he retires! Randy,thank Rhodes for that twitter stuff on the side about not getting rid of Harris."
Ira Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 7:44am ET"The one thing that i see nobody mentions is that the Jets haven't replaced 2 players since they traded them away. Keyshawn and Abraham. The Jets did well getting picks and drafted good players with those picks but they have left a void in both spots for years and still are looking for their replacements."
Mike Mc Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 8:20am ET"36 yr fan, speak for yourself. There is no way I deal a stud like Harris, now this Belicheckian tampering crap. keep Marshall, Good luck & we have no contact W/ Denver again. Mr.T says every rock, I say every rock below a mile high.I would rather we explore other options than over pay for a malcontent w/ off the field issues that wants a fat L Fitz contract. Long live David Harris in Jet green."
JETS 4 LIFE Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 9:27am ET"one thing is for sure we need a threat at the reciever spot, Clowny and Stuckey do no scare anyone, and are no real threat. Sanchez is a rookie and will need all the help he can get Flacco and Ryan had big help at the reciever position there rookie yr.if taken B.M means carrying some luggage then lets make some room. because I believe with a new contract comes a new attitude. we need a reciever!!"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 10:04am ET"Did I hear some1 say trade D-Harris for Marshall pure unequivocal insanity .. Marshall is the next T-O .. David Harris is the next Derrick Thomas that's like saying trade D-Revis for Pacman Jones ..Our receivers in my opinion are heads above Marshall & will shine if given the chance this team doesn't need brats who disrupt practices because they don't get they're way .Get A Pass rusher PLEASE"
JETS 4 LIFE Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 10:31am ET"it sounds like there is no deal in place anyway so we dont need to worry about losing Harris thank GOD but this still does not change our needs for a star wide receiver. I like Cotch and the crew but they are again no threat, and in my opinion Sanchez could use a star player opposite Cotch to help Sanchez.. it would just be nice to have that deep ball threat. GO JETS I am there no matter what."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 10:40am ET"Thanks, uncle joe, that's good to know! But actually, if you're looking to deal KC and promote EA. getting a third QB with some experience isn't a bad idea. Much as I like what I see this year of MS and EA and would like to see CP get a break, carrying those three guys leaves you with no one who's played in a regular season! Nice to see so many folks saying let's give Stuckey and Clowney a chance."
supercooljetfan Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 10:41am ET"i knew we werent getting marshall and dont even think about bowe either cause theres another belichek puppet running that team too...i bet marshall gets traded for practically nothing somewhere else thas why they made these fake tampering charges on the jets because we probably either the only team interested or we put the best offer on the table."
Hogan Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 11:16am ET"JETSANCHEZ6, they do not cover speculation on the Jets official site. NO WAY DO WE GIVE UP HARRIS FOR MARSHALL. Harris is our Ray Lewis. I would give no more than a low tier player and a 3rd, or a 2nd and a 5th."
Ira Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 11:20am ET"Everybody knows i don't want Marshall. A scenario i can't not dismiss is the Pats coming in and making a deal for him. McDaniels i would think has to have a good relationship with Belichick if they almost made a deal for Cassel. So with Moss a year older and Galloway a one year fix why not?"
Old Rogue Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 11:57am ET"So, let's review the Marshall "trade". The Jets have said absolutely nothing about wanting Marshall, nor contacted the Broncos. Cimini and other "hard news" reporters have speculated that the Jets MIGHT be interested, and have even run headlines stating that they ARE interested. Now, the Broncos are accusing the Jets of tampering. Brilliant."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 12:01pm ET"JETS 4 LIFE, that move -- or rather, series of moves -- Stuck made on 3 or 4 Giants to get the five more yards for the TD was the best I've seen by a Jet WR in decades and maybe one of the best I've ever seen. I'm tired of other teams grooming their own stars while we allegedly impatient New Yorkers "need a winner" instantly per the Steinbrennerian nonsense. Let's give these guys a real chance!"
scjoe Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 12:20pm ET"I wouldn't mind Marshall coming in, but NOT for Harris, no way, no how! But for all who feel like we are hurting at that position, you are wrong. The only piece missing from last season to this one is Coles. Was he really a pro bowler? There would be very little drop off in my opinion with either Clowney or stucky. It is not like we lost a Fitzgerald or Moss."
Frankie Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 1:18pm ET"WE WOULD NEVER LET GO OF HARRIS. We let go off vilma to keep harris since the 3-4. I beleive we will get Marshall and i am guessing a few draft picks and a few players. This would be a smart move i think. yeah he is a headache but Rex will str8en him out. This man caught over 200 passes his last 2 seasons. he is 25. this is our Keyshawn right here. "
JET 4 LIFE Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 1:47pm ET"Jets Fan Since"64 I hear ya and like they way you think! but that dont change the fact that we have no wide recievers, the jukes were great to see. and with your thinking the Jets dont see a playoff for 3 yrs because as we wait for the recievers to mature we lose the vets on the lines.I dont know call me crazy but a star WO gives us a chance to win now. but Tom I"m with the Gang Green all the way."
supercooljetfan Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 2:01pm ET"i have to agree with scjoe alls we are missing this year from last is coles who didnt have a pro bowl season... all we need is for keller to put up better numbers, cothchery to do the same or a little better than the las few years, and for stuckey and clowney combined to put up coles like numbers...we all know that washington is gonna at least double his offensive production from last year"
Frank Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 2:26pm ET"Sorry guys you are all dead wrong. We need a playmaker on offense and at 25 and 6'4" he is everything we need especially for Sanchez sake. He is one of the best receivers in the league. Harris last year showed he is not durable and can be replaced. I would do it if we can sign him to a long term deal with all kinds of performance and good guy behavioral clauses. "
Ira Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 2:46pm ET"OK the Broncos have said they will not trade Marshall to the Jets according to ESPN1050. Good put it to rest. Everybody enjoy the game and watch Ainge light up the Eagles. Jets 31- Eagles 20- GO JETS!!!!"
JETS 4 LIFE Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 3:21pm ET"well the latest to hit the news flash is now the Bronco's will trade with the Jets for Harris.so the Drama continues I believe all said and done Marshall would be good for the Jets, the baggage will be checked at the door. like I said earlier new contract new attitude, "
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 4:02pm ET"JETS FOR LIFE, I admit, I'm not thinking playoffs this year, not with our schedule. I've said what that other fan did about 6-10 with young guys beats 10-6 with vet cast-offs. Frank, I hear you and if Rex can get Marshall to straighten up, okay but not for Harris, EA, etc. I predict if Stuck starts he'll catch 50+ and for more than Coles' pitiful 11-yard per catch, with Clown picking up the slack."
Ray Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 4:04pm ET"What a surprise, Frank says we are all wrong and want to go the other way. So Harris isn't durable, but Marshall who missed a bunch of time last year with a bum hip is going to be the man of steel? Sorry 36 year fan I was wrong YOURS wasn't the worst comment ever. Let's remove our best LB and make our D considerably worse to add a wr who MIGHT make our a better. Brilliant!!"
Shep Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 5:01pm ET"Well, I guess the only thing I'm really glad about today is that Frank doesn't run the Jets, because he'd have us trading a stud of a backer for a cry baby receiver. Harken back to the days of the 90's and the Yankees. No 50 homer guys, no quarter of a billion dollar third basemen, and yet we won 4 World Series. It takes chemistry, hustle, talent, and coaching to win titles. Show some class."
Mike Mc Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 5:57pm ET"Frank, my man, you of all people would want that locker room cancer. If I remember right you wanted Ellis gone for the weed thing. either you have a code of ethics or you don't. It is not based on talent, right? Sure Sanchez could use him, but really Frank?Lets explore other avenues. Hope the new baby is growing like a Texas tumble weed."
36 year fan Said:
Thu, September 3, 2009 - 9:59pm ET"Ainge comes through again. I'm telling you he is our secret weapon, I would not part with him for anything!! "
Frank Said:
Fri, September 4, 2009 - 7:53am ET"Gee Ray Ray the guy leads the league in receptions and yardage over the last 2 years with 13 TD's. While Harris is not even on the radar at his position. So let's see outside of the Jet Koolaide drinkers who else knows about Harris? Tanwoody threw Vilma overboard who had much better accolades than Harris for basically nothing I say get a playmaker this offense has never had. OK Ray Ray."
Frank Said:
Fri, September 4, 2009 - 7:55am ET"Thanks Mikey Mc my daughter is doing great. BTW I did say have an incentive laden contract to counter the potential headache."
Ray Said:
Fri, September 4, 2009 - 2:37pm ET"No problem Francis, only Vilma wanted out and in a partial season Harris was a tackling machine that year. Last year he was not 100%. So Francis I think he deserves more time. Why do your standards for character all of a sudden go out the window hmmm? Coles, Ellis, TJ you want them out cause they're bad team guys but lets bring in a T. O. clone. When did you become such a hypocrite Francis?"
Ray Said:
Fri, September 4, 2009 - 3:29pm ET"BTW Francis I like the stats you quoted for Marshall. How come you still want to get rid of TJ even though he's got the most yards the last four years other than LT? Oh that's right, he had bad things to say about your man last year. Seems like there are double standards all over the place with you in here."
Jets Said:
Sat, September 5, 2009 - 5:47am ET"At least we all agree on this: Headcases are OUT! We just disagree on whether Marshall can straighten up. I lean toward sticking with the guys we got at WR, I'm even still curious about Henry but the fan who said he'll probably be back on practice might be right. Remember a few months ago when some were saying Woody forced MS on Rex? I can't see Rex going after Marshall w/out upstairs pressure."
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Ira Said:
Wed, September 2, 2009 - 1:43pm ET"Randy, The 04 game was one of the best times i have had at a game. It was so much fun watching Brooks bring them back. And Blackwell was fun to watch. Wasn't he teamate of Herm's son in college? If anybody wants to relax and have fun at a game they should go. GO JETS!!!!!"
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