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08/20 — Whatever happens in the quarterback competition Monday night at Baltimore will be a big part of head coach Rex Ryan’s decision of whether to start Kellen Clemens or Mark Sanchez in the season opener at Houston. But it won’t be the only part.
This morning’s last-play-of-the-game drills will also be a factor. For the record, each QB had two shots at the end zone. Sanchez threw two touchdown passes, both to Brad Smith, with the first offense. Clemens had no TDs with the second O.
“I think you’ve got to look at everything, I really do,” Ryan said at this morning’s news conference. “The things you see on the field from a leadership standpoint, even the drills that we do. Talk about that last play of the game, that’s pressure as well, putting our guys in different situations.”
Ryan is still not ready to crown his starter, but both candidates for the No. 1 job continue to grind away at all tasks set before them.
“I know Rex said he wants to make a decision next week,” Clemens said. “I don’t have a specific date. But we’ll continue to compete. Ultimately it’s his decision and we’ll support that decision when it’s handed down.”
Sanchez remains respectful of all involved but still confident in the progress he’s making as a pro QB.
“We looked back at our completion percentage, efficiency, interceptions and stuff like that through the first three phases of camp each week. The first two weeks my completion percentage was down and this week it’s up in the 60s so that was a great improvement,” the rookie said. “I’ve really been starting to peak coming into this game. That’s the way I wanted to end up camp and that’s the way things have gone.”
It’s been an even competition, with both men fighting through slumps and getting on hot streaks. None of the coaches or players are speculating on how the competition stands. Now come the Ravens, and while it’s not the title fight that will declare the champion all by itself, it will carry a lot of weight toward who’s going to wear the title belt heading into the season.
Said Ryan: “I really think at the end of the day we’re going to make the right decision for us.”
Thursday Morning Notes
Here’s how the last-play period unfolded:
The first round is fourth-and-goal at the 5, six seconds on the clock and the offense trailing, 16-10.
Sanchez, with the ones, has lots of time. He rolls right, then left, finally firing a low ball that Brad Smith snags just over the goal line. Sanchez runs down for congratulations and looks as if he’s almost going to jump into the official’s arms.
On Clemens’ turn with the twos, he rolls right and appears to have Marcus Henry open in the end zone. But Drew Coleman comes off his man on the outside just in time to pick off the fastball, fall to the front of the end zone and cradle the precious pickoff.
Erik Ainge also gets his turn with the threes, and out of an empty backfield he finds Huey Whittaker past Marquice Cole for the TD in the corner of the end zone. But the official on the play throws his flag, citing Whittaker for stepping on the end line before making the catch — illegal touching, no TD.
Round 2: Same situation except that the ball is on the 15.
Sanchez rolls left and finds Smith in a crowd, again in the ‘zone, this time with a higher throw into the wideout’s gut. Smith takes the ball to the hoop — that is, the goal post, and does a finger roll over the bar despite the late defense from former Louisville cager Kerry Rhodes.
Clemens rolls left, starts to get pressure and has to unload, throwing the ball through the end zone for an incompletion.
Ainge starts to roll when the official blows his whistle, signifying that Ainge would’ve been sacked.
In earlier drills, Sanchez hits Jerricho Cotchery on a 40-yarder, CB Rashad Barksdale comes up with an interception of a Clemens pass intended for Wallace Wright, and Ainge threads a red zone pass to Henry for the 15-yard score.
Update, 2:10 p.m.: DT Sione Pouha, starting for the still rehabbing Kris Jenkins, got his ankle rolled during a 9-on-7 drill. Said Rex Ryan: "I think he's going to be fine," but no word on Pouha's availability for Baltimore.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (35)jerod Herod Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 1:51pm ET"Randy, How is the # 2 Tight End battle shaking out?, Our anyone of them stnading out as it relates to blocking/pass rotes/receptions. just curious on how this will unfold "
Randy Lange Said:
"At the moment, jerod, undrafted free agent Jack Simmons is at No. 2 on the depth chart behind Dustin Keller and ahead of Kareem Brown at No. 3. Not much to report on big plays, but we've got three more preseason games and more practices at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in the coming weeks for the depth behind Keller to sort itself out."
Mike W Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 1:56pm ET"Good updates. I see Marcus Henry's name alot. How is his camp going? I hardly saw anything on him last year. "
Randy Lange Said:
"Mike W, Marcus Henry has been flashing lately. The push is on for the fifth wideout spot."
dea1019 Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 2:16pm ET"Ainge looks like he's the most complete QB! A Veteran, 6'6", athletic, positive leader, has great vision & gun, quick/accurate ball, I saw him throw it 65 yards the other night, and the young man is a winner! 3-0 -V- Georgia, 2-1-v- Alabama, 3-0 -v- South Carolina, 3-0 -v- Kentucky, brought us back last year -v- Philadelphia for the win and this season brought us back over St. Louis; fumbledPunt"
Wayne Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 2:19pm ET"Randy, looks like Sanchez is starting to take a commanding lead over Clemens.I also think Ainge is a diamond in the rought & I hate to say it but should be considered a candidate for the backup QB & Clemens #3. Randy, any word of Ryan looking for a Vet WR. I love all our guys & believe a few will step up & have a great year but it's not a bad thing to have some insurance. What do you think Randy"
Randy Lange Said:
"Wayne, I know there are rumors out there but I have heard nothing about adding a veteran WR. If we do, I'll let you all know as soon as I can."
Ira Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 2:24pm ET"Randy, I think i am ok with simmons as th #2 TE. I think they will still bring in a veteran if somebody they like becomes available but i really like Simmons' upside. I have been a big Henry supporter and think he really needs some time with the 1"s this week to show he can play."
Ira Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 2:43pm ET"Barksdale and Cole have caught my eye this summer and think one or both will make the PS. Barksdale has great size and athletic ability and reminds me of M.Coleman. This weeks game will answer some ? with certain players. Can't wait to see how Schotty calls the plays for Sanchez this week vs the Ravens D. Conservative or will he let him take his shots when he thinks he can strike? GO JETS!!!!"
Anthony Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 2:45pm ET"Randy I know you said you had no information on getting a veteran at wide out but I have been hearing rumors about Bowe with the Chiefs. Is that just rumor or is there possible interest in him? I am sure its the same thign you answered but just wanted to clear the air. And any word on Leon's contract situation?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Sorry, Anthony, but we don't discuss trade rumors until they turn true or contract matters until they become official. I just have nothing I could pass on to you about any wideout reports."
Brian Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 2:46pm ET"Randy, I heard on SportsCenter yesterday that the Jets were interested in trading for Brandon Marshall, though. How big of a possibility is it that they will get him?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Brian, I can't answer that. But if anyone has thoughts on Brandon Marshall or other receivers, send us your thoughts."
Ira Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 2:52pm ET"Wayne, Can't put Ainge ahead of Kellen. Ainge has zero experience playing in the NFL. But i do like Ainge's upside. I think a veteran WR is coming aboard. They have to just for insurance in case J-Co gets hurt. The Eagles have some extra WR's and i wouldn't be shocked if the Jets make a play for one or p/u one up if a veteran gets cut. Brown, Williams, Curtis, and Baskett. One will be moved."
TMac Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 2:53pm ET"Trade Kellen now so he can get a fresh start. He's been with the Jets a long time now...Mangini took Ratliff (that tells me something) Ainge is a prototype pro QB with smarts to boot and sure looks like the #2 to me....and if Sanchez suffers Ainge will not need another chance to show the NFL they have another star."
Sam Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 3:14pm ET"Randy- Are you going to continue covering today? I'm on PST, but love the up to the minute coverage!"
Randy Lange Said:
"Sam, I'll have one more practice blog early this evening and we're also planning a David Clowney piece by Kyle Richardson today and Eric Allen's camp wrapup Friday morning."
Shep Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 3:24pm ET"I think the numbers and the game last week speak for themselves. Clemens, in his fourth year, looks like the #3 guy at best. Sanchez looks great for a rook, and Ainge has the size and the gun that we need at backup. When are we going to stop coddling Clemens and just let him go? Ratliff would have been a better #3 guy than Clemens. Sorry Kellen, but you're just not destined to start."
Nick Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 3:43pm ET"i feel bad for clemens, he's a backup qb and thats all he'll ever be. its not only how well they throw the ball but its also leadership and how they will lead their teams. clemens has been in the nfl for 3 years already but would still snap under pressure if he was under, lets say, a 3rd and 15 situation. but i think sanchez would be able to keep his cool and stay strong. he's a strong kid"
Dominic Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 3:46pm ET"What about a shot @ Bradon Marshell. I think this will give us a complete passing game."
randy Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 4:02pm ET"Your right the Jets should trade Kellen so he has a fair chance. Jets VS Rams Oline opened up twice early in the game. Sanchez in later all kinds of time.good job boys.Not only that Ryan is in it to sell tickets sanchez starts no matter what kellen does.But wait till he gets hit. Ryan already showed his plans in tues interveiw.Sorry Kellen but I cant wait to see you on the WEST COAST."
scjoe Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 4:44pm ET"Randy, there are two things that stand out most to me in this camp. #1- The amount of INTs by all three QBs #2- The amount of injuries that are adding up. Both not a good sign with only the second preseason game coming up. Taking a line from our former coach, I hope the INTs are a "function" of a very good defense rather then a not so good offense."
Gary C. Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 4:46pm ET"jets have always been a classy organization,just look the other way when you here the name Brandon Marshall.cancers always break up good chemistry."
MIKE Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 5:43pm ET"It is definatly to early to make Ainge the #2 guy, but Ira is right. This guy has tremendous upside but has no reps. He kind of reminds me of Phiiip Rivers. Big pocket passer that is accurate. He played well for a big college team, if Sanchez goes down that let him play, we won't win with Clemens. P.S. VG is a BUST! The Ryan Leaf of LB's."
Gary C Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 6:19pm ET"I like Henry alot to.I remember after last years draft mark mangino praised jets selection of his player from Kansas,I think he makes the team if the jets carry two tight ends."
serge Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 10:21pm ET"i think that the jets got rid of the wrong qb. We should have kept (BR) Ratty and send KC packing."
Johnny H Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 11:23pm ET"Lets see how the game vs the Ravens pans out before we bury Clemens. This guy hasn't been given a chance. He had 3 of the 4 wins 2 years ago. Eli Manning was 1-6 his first year starting. Entering his 4th year with 39 starts and people were still questioning if he had what it takes. He got hot at the end of that year, wins the SB and now he's the highest paid QB. Give Clemens a chance please."
Clemens is the man Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 2:18am ET"Randy does anyone ever think that if you put the QBs in the same with the ones who are obviously a little better the QB situation might be the same. I mean comeon Clemens has had to compete against everyone except favre who was a wash out that came back. If clemens is #2 he will have to clean up after every million dollar QB and then what he will have to compete again. How much can 1 man take."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 2:19am ET"Ira, I think your posts are among the best on this site but you're off on this one. If EA shows more than KC, better to get something for KC NOW. Who needs him to go 7-9 at best if MS gets hurt? For what, to save face? In that case I'd rather use the year to get EA those reps. And the next year I'd rather have MS back with a maturing EA behind him than hold another "Can KC win the job?" camp. "
poobah Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 5:18am ET"well said johnny h. clemens has talent, let the coaches sort it out."
Kaya Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 7:58am ET"Johnny H. It's really up to KC if he wants to be the starting QB. It should not be a even competition with the experience KC has. He is not producing and that's always been his undoing. He had a chnace against Chad, and KC couldn't over come him twice. Remember it was the same O-line that both Chad and KC played behind that yr. and Chad still came back from his injury to start. "
T Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 8:08am ET"Ratliff should have stayed! KC= Mr. interception! A rookie can come in and show him up? Remember last preseason? He couldn't get anything done, then Mr Ratliff steps on the field playing against w/ all the same players and BAM,BAM completion TD...........KC flat blah......blah...... blah....... interception etc........ NOT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
Johnny H Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 11:39am ET"Kaya, KC won 3 of 8 games he started, Chad won 1 of 8 he started that year. Both had a bad OL. KC would have won a 4th game against the Ravens if not for McCareins dropping theTD. I'm not saying he's been lights out or his stats are great. I just think he needs more opportunity to see how he develops. I think Rex has made up his mind long ago to start Sanchez. "
Kara Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 12:02pm ET"Randy, How is Diggs (James Ihedigbo) looking out there?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Kara, James Ihedigbo is hitting hard and continues to make contributions at safety with the second defense and on special teams."
Frankie Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 12:39pm ET"All of you guys are hating on KC. He is a good player. I love Sanchez and if he wins the competition then so be it. But KC has sat on our bench and has done everything that was asked of him. Now that we have an O-line he should get a chance to prove to us he can be a starter. I wanted him over Pennington. He deserves a chance. "
Serge Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 7:50pm ET"i was one rooting for our qb's (BR, KC) in the offseason, realistically KC couldn't beat out CP, and now he is trailing the rookie MS and my opinion he is also trailing EA.It is written in the stars KC is not a starter.KC has more exp. than the other 2 qb's and has been in the system longer, still he can't pull away from either. i still say the jets got rid of the wrong qb, BR should still be here"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Fri, August 21, 2009 - 9:28pm ET"Frankie, KC's done everything asked of a guy who doesn't have it in him to shine, i.e. he's sat on our bench. The guy you want is the one who isn't happy till he shines, and that ain't looking like KC. Pizzotti's back to take EA's 4th spot last year and that's fine if we keep all 3 other QBs. But I wouldn't hesitate that long to unload KC, out of those 4 he's got the least to do with the future."
TMac Said:
Sat, August 22, 2009 - 1:32pm ET"Pizotti resigned? Denver needing QB's? I see Kellen for the unhappy Bronco receiver happening soon."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Sat, August 22, 2009 - 5:59pm ET"The unhappy Bronco receiver's attitude and history bother me and I don't want any of our WRs not to get their chance. But I can't say I'd object all that loudly if we were able to get that much for KC. I suppose we might have to throw in a WR ourselves. And judging by the way Rex cut Conley and Raymond, I wouldn't put a move like that past him. Maybe a coach like Rex is just what Marshall needs."
Row Said:
Mon, August 24, 2009 - 4:26pm ET"D. Coleman has been watching the same offense for 2+ years, that's why he's jumping routes. It's doesn't take much talent to defend a pass on a play that's in your playbook. With that said, in the game tonight, I see Kellen showing poise of a veteran. I hope he gets his shots to show he's the better QB, because the media is going for an implosion with their biased nonsense. "
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mike Said:
Thu, August 20, 2009 - 1:46pm ET"Sounds like Clemens is really starting to slip Randy...I'm really rooting for Sanchez but Ainge I think deserves a little more. What do you think about the qb's developments?"
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