Now Batting Leadoff ... No. 12 ... Joe Namath
Published: Mon, July 13, 2009 - 1:20pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Curtis Martin, Joe Namath, Wayne Chrebet, David Bowens, Don Maynard, Joe Klecko, David Clowney, Brett Favre, Winston Hill, Vicky Vitarelli, J.J. Jones
07/13 — Returning from a vake break, I came in through the business entrance of the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center as usual. Everything looked the same, yet something, something was different ...
Yes, that's it. No. 12, not No. 4, was looking down on me from above.
More specifically, the Jets have changed up the six vertical player panels that greet everyone going by this portal. Last year the Jets' six captains were so honored, with Brett Favre batting leadoff.
But Rex Ryan, as we all know, is a big fan of the Green & White heritage, and with two of last year's captains (Favre, David Bowens) having moved on, a change was in order. Vicky Vitarelli, senior director of marketing, has been doing a great job with coordinating the new features that liven up the inside and outside of the building (the "fan wall" and such features as all-time team award winners and all-time uniform numbers), and she recently huddled with our friends at National Communications Group on new images.

The result: Joe Namath greets us on the left-most panel, poised to fire a touchdown pass. He's followed by five other greats from Jets history: WR Don Maynard, tackle Winston Hill, D-lineman Joe Klecko, WR Wayne Chrebet and RB Curtis Martin.
We're going to pop up my BlackBerry photo of the panels, and fans will get to see this display for themselves when they show up for the three days of training camp practices in late August here at the training center.
Bubba Franks Released
Early this evening, the Jets announced that they have released tight end Bubba Franks. The news story will be posted on newyorkjets.com shortly.
Clowney Having "Fun" in the Sun
David Clowney's latest blog details the work he's been doing down Miami way with a couple of familiar names: LB Takeo Spikes and RB Jamal Lewis, to be specific.
The workouts have been on the beach but it's not exactly fun in the sun.
"It’s rough when you do everything in the sand," David writes. "We do 40-yard sprints, backpedals, 100-yard sprints, reaction drills. Most days I’m working out twice, running in the morning and lifting in the afternoon, then switching it up. As a receiver it’s important to lift a lot with your legs to keep them strong, keep your speed and stamina up late in the game. I also bench to build upper-body strength so when a DB presses you at the line you can get him off."
But Clowney hasn't exactly been a Miami monk. Read about his July globetrotting here on his latest blog. http://www.davidclowney87.com/blog.html
Jones: Once Namath's Understudy
We offer our condolences to the family of John "J.J." Jones, the one-time backup to Namath who died Thursday in Pierce County, Wash., in a house fire labeled of suspicious origin by police. He was 57.
Jones played scholastically in Memphis and collegiately at Fisk in Nashville before coming to the Jets as an undrafted free agent, signed after a tryout, in 1974. In that preseason, he threw four touchdown passes, including two to David Knight in a start against Denver, but then was injured and spent the entire season on IR.
Then in 1975 Jones graduated to become Namath's backup, playing in seven games. His claim to fame: He got one start for Broadway Joe and it was on a national stage.
J.J. got the nod in the next-to-last game of the season, which just happened to be ABC's final Monday night telecast of the year, at San Diego, when interim head coach Ken Shipp benched Namath for a curfew violation. Namath came on in the second half of the 24-16 loss to the Chargers.
It was the only start in the only NFL season in Jones' career. He finished with 16 completions in 57 attempts for 181 yards, one TD and five INTs, and with nine rushes for 59 yards.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (55)Wisconsin - GANG GREEN FAN Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 2:07pm ET"I am surprised Mark Gastineau did not make the fan wall of all time NY Jets Greats ??? #99 was the best defensive player ever to wear green & white, despite maybe his sack dances, which to this day was the first and last time I have seen a Jet dominate the game and be proud of his success.... "
Shep Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 3:18pm ET"I'm going to have to agree with a poster who commented on your story about McNair. This article regarding John Jones was horribly written. When someone dies, just mention the positives from his life and wish their family well. Who in the hell needs to know how bad his stats were? Get a clue Randy, and maybe some creativity to go along with these stories."
Anthony Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 3:39pm ET"This is what the Jets needed. Why are you going to have Favre up there. I was all for Favre and still think he is a great player but he is not a true Jet. I also heard Mangini wouldn't let Jets alumuni into the Locker room? is that true? If so he has a lot to learn as a coach. Anyway I am psyched for the season to start and have been since the Superbowl ended. When are the Jets starting pract?"
Original Jet fan Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 4:24pm ET" Gastineau was a one trick pony. Three yrs ago with my brother, son and grandson we were on an elevator at the stadiumwith Mark. Mark was nice , friendly, and kidding around said to my grandson"Want me to tackle you"? My brother said "run around in here, Bryan , he could never stop the run, that was Klecko and Salaam!" We got off the elevator quickly, but he took it in good humor. "
stevefromqueens Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 5:13pm ET"the next NYJ who will be inducted into Canton is #28 with all due respect to the commenter from wisconsin, gastineau only qualifies for a special "scab" photo in the toilet at the AHC Neither Klecko nor Hill or Chrebet belong in Canton IMO"
Jeff Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 7:03pm ET"Sorry to hear about J.J. Jones' passing. I've been a fan since 1973 and I remember watching the Monday NIght Football game he started against the Chargers in 1975. Ken Shipp was the Jets' interim head coach at the time, though, because Charley Winner had been fired earlier in the season."
Randy Lange Said:
"Great point, Jeff. Fix has been made."
wayne Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 8:11pm ET"No disrespect to Bubba, but there was no way Jets could depend on Him to stay healthy.What I'm hoping this means is that the team may have found one or two diamonds in the rough.They'll still need a veteran blocking TE, but adding some young talent to the position wouldn't hurt.Gastineau was a force.Enough with the I love Joe so I can't like Mark.Maybe joe was a little jealous?Self promo in today"
Fran Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 9:08pm ET"two other Jets that should be there are Marvin Jones and certainly Mo Lewis. Not trash talkers, just did the dirty work for a long time and are what IMO encompasses JET alumni. "
MikeMc Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 9:32pm ET"Its about time that we inspire our current players with the chance to be immortalized. Vernon Gholston on that wall in 20 years? Go get it boys!!!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 9:44pm ET"Hey Randy, what's with the release of Franks? Our rookie TEs been impressing Rex and company? A deal in the works for a vet TE? At the risk of enraging some, I say if one of the young guys looks good fine, let's go with as much youth as we can get. I'll be happy to build for a year or two on a base of Sanchez, Leon, Greene, Mangold, Ferguson, Stuckey, Clowney, Keller, Revis, Rhodes, Leonhard, etc."
Dino Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 10:57pm ET"It's ridiculous to think Gastineau should be in the hall of fame, and he wasn't even the best lineman on the team he played on, let alone all time as a Jet. He wouldn't have gotten those sacks if not for Klecko drawing double and triple teaming, and still getting over 20 sacks himself. Gastineau sacked QB's but probably doesnt even know what a running back is and certainly rarely tackled one!! "
Dino Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 11:11pm ET"I think several Jets besides Namath belong in the hall. Martin,Hill,Maynard and Klecko. Klecko was one of the most dominating linemen I've ever seen when healthy. Deacon Jones is the best I've ever seen, and Bob Lilly was 2nd. What hurts Klecko is that he had only a few great healthy years in comparison. Philbin was a great one if you watched a lot in those days. Hill had Joe's blind side at LT!"
Dino Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 11:35pm ET"Anybody remember Gastineau's late roughing the passer penalty that cost the Jets the playoff!? The guy had a monster body with the brain the size of a pea. How many times did we see a running back run around his end after he just barreled in for a 'sack'.... too clueless to realize it was a run. I would hate to be the LB on his side of the line...You'd have had a long day!! "
bigg daddy Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 12:53am ET"Stevefromqweens are you kidding!!! Klecko made the Pro Bowl in three different D-Line positions & was a dominant run & pass rusher of his era! How many NFL players in the history of modern football made the Pro Bowl in three different positions?? Klecko Definitely Belongs in the Hall Of Fame!!! "
PurpleFlash Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 1:21am ET"Gastineau was a great player. That guy had tremendous speed and could run somebody down from behind. But I don't think I'd put him in the list of the top 6 greatest all time Jets. Remember, he left the team early, before his career was over to go into boxing I think. And the circus of him leaving his wife didn't help."
Ira Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 7:02am ET"I never really thought Franks had a chance of making the team and i thought it was a safe bet he wouldn't make it to camp. I think Simmons can make the team but you need a veteran. Bullock could make the PS. Brown they should've left at DE. Troupe,Bergen and Truman or somebody else they know will be released or have a deal in place for.It seems Baker isn't that easy to replace now. "
Ira Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 7:10am ET"Shep, Randy would never disrespect anybody. He covered all his bases. And i am glad he did because i never knew he started a game instead of Namath. That to me is something Jones and his family had to be proud of. His #'s are what they are. And Randy was kind with those #'s by not putting in he had a 9.2% QB rating. Its a shame what happened. Prayers for his family and may he RIP."
Constance Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 9:46am ET"Mark Gastineau was one of the greatest pass rushers ever and put the Jets and Sack Exchange on the map - he originated the sack dance and now players do it on EVERY tackle - in today's game with everyone being situational no one would be talking about against the run and if you ask his coaches on the Jets they will tell you with the defense they had then what they wanted him to do was "get the QB""
OriginalJetFan Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 12:08pm ET" if anyone else should be on that wall it's Bruce Harper, who was Leon Washington , before Leon Washington.. And hios picture should have HIM on Fireman Ed's shoulders. he is not a HOFer , but he was a true Jet."
scjoe Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 12:50pm ET"Randy, as a long time Jet fan, there is no better “leadoff man” walking into that training center then Joe Willie! The rest of the list is impressive as well, the only one I can think of that should be added would be Wesley Walker."
Row Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 12:53pm ET"Could have had Baker for just over a mil. Now we have one WR that's pretending to be a TE, and two PS TE's. How are we going to run the ball without a real blocking TE? For some reason I think Mr. T isn't coordinating with Rex much, b/c there is no reason to be this far without a starting TE that can block. I'm getting more worried this year is going to be a flop. Better not start Sanchez!"
Brian I Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 1:06pm ET"Ira, I could not agree with you more.....Baker will not be easy to replace and the fact that he landed with the Patriots will put an exclamation mark on that point this coming season. I guess the feeling is that using an extra O - Lineman on runnin situations or having a back chip during passing situations will be enough given the caliber of this offensive line."
Nic Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 1:08pm ET"No Gastineau??? What a joke. I'm embarrassed to be a Jets fan. I know Mark wasn't a model citizen after he retired but come on, this guy is one of the greatest pass rushers/Jet of All-Time!!!"
Craps Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 1:32pm ET"Why the heck is Clowney practicing in the sand??? Real nice way to do some serious damage to the legs. Didn't a running back, not too long ago, get hurt - badly - playing in the sand during the Pro Bowl?"
Ray Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 1:52pm ET"Bubba Franks as our solution to the TE position was iffy at best. Now this situation is becoming more alarming as we close in on training camp. This is supposed to be a running team this year? Those of you in here who continually spouted off about how a TE is no big deal are on the verge of getting a HUGE lesson on the importance of the TE position. They better have something up their sleeves."
Mike Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 2:34pm ET"What the heck, how didn't Mark Gastineau get on this wall of fame? He made more Pro Bowls and All Pro's than any of these other guys except for maybe Winston Hill. Unbelievable!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 4:29pm ET"Ray, you really think they DON'T have something up their sleeves? If all that's needed is a blocking TE and Baker's too expensive and Franks' too hurt, it makes plenty sense to pick up a vet TE later and change formations as Brian I suggests. On 7/14, the team isn't "on the verge" of anything. I also think this "running team" stuff is getting too much play. You don't draft a QB first just to run."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 6:07pm ET" I have to laugh at fans who say M- Gastineau doesn't deserve his accolades .The man held the sack record for the longest time so he did his sack dance let us not forget if it weren't for B- Farve falling down & giving the sack record to Mike S he would still own it . These clowns today make M- G look like a well disciplined football player in comparison & yes Klecko was the man some fans tired "
Maine Pats fan Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 8:53pm ET"I'm in agreement with the gentleman that said Curtis Martin is the only Jet that will be in the HOF. I'm still trying to figure out why your organization continues to snub your all time best defensive player in Mark Gastineau and tries to promote "nobody's" like Joe Klecko. Joe Klecko is the most overrated new york jet ever. What has he done that puts him in the HOF? Woody doesn't have a clue."
Maine Pats fan Said:
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 9:51pm ET"I forgot to mention much respect to Joe Namath. I don't like the Jets but he was great. The NFL would not be what it is today with out Joe Willie. "
Ken Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 8:58am ET"The Jets have been the laughing stock of the league for the past 40 years. The SACK EXCHANGE has been the only bright spot since winning SB III. Honoring Gastineau (the best player on the SACK EXCHANGE) makes a whole lotta sense to me but the Jets seem to think the opposite. Retire Gast's #99!"
scjoe Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 10:17am ET"Maine pat fan...Excuse me! What did Joe Klecko do to be put in the hall of fame? How about going to the pro bowl at THREE different positions? DE,DT,NT. Who was the last pat to do that?"
manalapan jay Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 10:49am ET"To the Maine Pats fan - First, I don't expect too much from Pats fans to begin with. Second, you have no clue to how important Klecko was to that D-Line. Clogging up the middle and getting penertration to draw double coverage was one of the reasons Gastineau was able to get into the backfield. "
Ray Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 1:00pm ET"'64 Tom, Obviously I was wrong they had something up their sleeve. And they are looking more like Bullwinkle all the time! As for drafting a qb meaning they aren't going to be a running team. They drafted Sanchez for the future, who knows if he'll even play at this point, this year they are going to have to focus more on the run, at least until one of them shows they can handle that pressure."
Ray Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 1:09pm ET"Ken, while Gastineau was a GREAT passrusher, calling him the best player on the Sack Exchange is comical. KLECKO was hands down the leader and best player on that line. Gastineau couldn't play DT, Klecko did and was an All-Pro. Gastineau definitely couldn't have played NT, Klecko did and was an All-Pro. Klecko DID play DE as well, AND he was an All-Pro. "
Ray Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 1:11pm ET"Bottom line, while Gastineau was a great pass rusher and deserves his share of accolades, Klecko was great all around defensive lineman who should be in the Hall of Fame. The only way Gastineau gets in is to pay like the rest of us!!"
Mike Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 3:17pm ET"I forgot to say a big "NO" to Klecko in the Hall of fame. Only 3 Pro bowls and 1 as an alternate, 2 All pros, and 24 career sacks, no way Klecko is a Hall of famer. Those credentials wouldn't even get Lawrence Taylor in the Hall of fame."
Ken Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 6:29pm ET"Ray, to add to your comment: "The only way Gastineau gets in is to pay like the rest of us!! Well the answer to that is same with Klecko! He's not in the HOF either and if he hasn't gotten in by now, he probably won't ever get in. Joe was good but extremely overrated with us Jets fans."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 7:27pm ET"Can't argue with you, Ray, but I expect more changes at TE, it's only July. Hell, they brought Law back halfway through last season! And sure, the Jets will run a lot but if MS or KC steps up the offense will adjust, just like it did when we got Favre. And just like ATL and BAL did when their rookie QBs stepped up. Still don't get Row's static over MS's contract, he talks like it's unprecedented."
Nic Said:
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 9:06pm ET"I agree with Ken, Gastineau was the best player on the Sack exchange. Without him there wouldn't be a Sack Exchange. 107 1/2 sacks in 108 career starts is unheard of. Let's face it guys, the resentment towards Gastineau is because he quit in the middle of the '88 season, that was a bone head move. But if he didn't have his many legal troubles after he retired then he'd be in the HOF already!"
Ray Said:
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 4:23am ET"Mike you have no clue what your talking about. All Pro at every DL position, never done since, or before I believe. It's not all about stats or our very own Joe Willie wouldn't be in there. If he didn't qualify why are we submitting his name every year to the selection committee?"
Row Said:
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 10:02am ET"Tom, it ruined our cap, and it IS unprecedented for the Jets to sign a rookie QB for almost 50 mil at 20+ guaranteed. We didn't sign our must have players and allowed Baker, Coles to be released without replacements. Lost Coleman & Elam. Name one guy out there that is a proven run blocker. Enough said.. "
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 2:51pm ET"Good points, Row, but its high time the Jets got real at QB. I think we're WAY better off w/out Coles, Baker, Coleman, and Elam, see my "five best guys" post re rebuilding on the Owens piece. Ray, on Joe's stats, the game was MUCH different then, you could throw five picks but win the game and be a hero. As for Comp. %, QBs actually threw the ball downfield then, not "horizontally" for two yards."
Mike Said:
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 7:33pm ET"Ray, I have no clue? I watched the Jets in the 80's and Gastineau was the guy, if you were around then, you'd know that. He was one of the biggest things in the NFL never mind on the Jets. Yes, his status has taken a hit because of his legal troubles but the guy was a beast on the football field, that's for sure! Let's stop arguing about it and hope for good things with the Jets this season. "
Fred Said:
Thu, July 16, 2009 - 9:23pm ET"" It all started with Joe for me ,so he should be the first to great fans in the building. I definately am a Klecko Guy ,but have softened on Gastineau. The realitive short life of the sack exchange hurts Klecko's chances for the HOF but I plan to be there in 2012 for #28 induction. In 2009 , S. Ellis becomes the leader in games played by a DL. Call it pot luck! Lets Go JETS!!!!"
Ray Said:
Fri, July 17, 2009 - 3:04am ET"'64 Tom, Joe is in there because it is the HALL OF FAME, not the Hall of STATS. He won one of the most important games of all time and he was, and still is, a legendary figure in football, that is why he's in there. And I fail to see how we are way better without Coles and especially Baker, since we have not replaced them to date. Your assuming one of these guys will step in and do just as well"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Fri, July 17, 2009 - 2:10pm ET"I agree about HOF vs. stats, Ray, but stats change along with the game. Tarkenton retired the all-time leader in most stats but was criticized during his career for too many flat passes (today we call it "dink and dunk") and not throwing to win. We're better off w/out Coles and Baker 'cause now we can really give the young guys a shot. Kinda like dumping the okay girlfriend to find the great one."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Fri, July 17, 2009 - 2:20pm ET"Or for other analogies re Coles and Baker, Ray, like getting Hendrix out of Little Richard's band so he could shine on his own. Or Abrahams out of Tull so Barre could help Anderson reshape the band's whole sound. Or letting Leadon leave the Eagles so Walsh could join Felder in a two-pronged attack of real electric guitarists. We don't need guys who are just "taking up space," as Dylan once said."
Ray Said:
Sat, July 18, 2009 - 4:06am ET"Ok Tom you might be able to argue that Clowney, Stuckey, Henry, Smith one of them might step up and shine like a "Hendrix", we shall see. And I hope your right on that one. Your argument loses steam with the TE. We have NO ONE that even comes close to replacing Baker currently on this roster, and until they sign someone I won't play the fantasy football game of assuming they will."
The Rick Said:
Sat, July 18, 2009 - 11:41am ET"Joe Willie is,and always will be, the face of the Jets. Don't you think his picture should be first ant where Jets players are featured. Let's hope Sanchez can be Jet #2. Joe Willie is THE MAN!!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Sat, July 18, 2009 - 4:04pm ET"I'll give you that one, Ray, TE' s one of the bigger question marks. I admit when they let Baker go I figured they were still high on Franks, so that baffles me a bit. I also admit I might be blinded by how much I like Keller, who's the kind of modern, multi-faceted receiver that the Jets haven't been looking for till now. But yeah, I don't think we should "fantasize" about a rookie blocking TE."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Sat, July 18, 2009 - 4:11pm ET"P.S. to Ray re blocking: See NFL website on when Alworth got traded to the Cowboys and Landry didn't say hi or welcome, just told him they got him 'cause he'd block, if he blocked they'd win the SB, Alworth said, "I'll block," and then they barely spoke again -- till they won the SB! Lance lives in Del Mar and opening day at the racetrack is Wednesday, I should try to find him and talk football.."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Sat, July 18, 2009 - 4:17pm ET"Also Ray, happy to report that to this day, NO ONE, not even a star Jet WR, can shine like Hendrix. Just saw Winwood and Clapton at the Hollywood Bowl, last song is a 15-minute "Voodoo Child," Winwood's awesome on vocal and organ, Abe Laboriel's a beast on drums, Clapton's trying out all kinds of stuff on guitar that I've never seen him do, almost channeling Jimi's spirit...almost, but not quite!"
James Said:
Tue, August 11, 2009 - 1:00am ET"Wayne Chrebet and Curtis Martin! It is not the same without #80 in the slot or Curtis shooting the gap! I hope nobody ever wears their numbers again."
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Ira Said:
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 1:38pm ET"Randy, Its about time they got Namath and other greats up there. Like you said Rex has put his stamp on the building. Now its time for the Jets and their PR Staff to get Klecko into the HOF where he deserves to be. Saw that about J.J. last week. Very sad."
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