Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Chad Pennington, Joe Namath, Kellen Clemens, New York Jets, Brett Favre, interception-return touchdown
07/03 — This is the latest in a series of nine Radar entries over the next five weeks detailing trends in the AFC East, downward tendencies each division team wants to correct for the coming season and upward strides that each team wants to continue into 2009:
One thing the Jets and their fans have gotten really tired of the past two seasons is having opposing defenders picking off their passes and taking them the other way for six.
Jets QBs have thrown eight interceptions that have been returned for TDs in 2007 and '08 combined. Brett Favre threw four pick-sixes all by himself last year, run back by San Diego's Antonio Cromartie, Kansas City rookie Brandon Flowers, Buffalo's Jabari Greer and Miami rookie DE Phillip Merling.
The year before, Chad Pennington threw two that the opponents scored on, then Kellen Clemens had two more.
"Believe me, I'm well aware of what is expected of me and how important it is to take care of the ball," Favre said in the days after throwing three INTs, including the ball Flowers returned 91 yards for the go-ahead touchdown before pulling out the win with a TD pass to Laveranues Coles.
"I've played a long time. I understand that turnovers, as well as penalties, just the little things, there are so many factors that go into winning or losing. I know statistically speaking, if you turn the ball over more than your opponent, you lose. That's two times in three weeks we've won. Can you make a living doing that? Every coach, any statistician would tell you no. I don't plan on doing that."
But he threw 11 more picks after that game, two of which were returned for scores, before calling it a Jets career.
Here are the teams throwing eight interception-return TDs in back-to-back seasons since the 2004-05 seasons:
| Team | Seasons | Quarterbacks |
| JETS | 2007-08 | Pennington (2), Clemens (2), Favre (4) |
| St. Louis | 2007-08 | Frerotte (2), Bulger (5), Green (1) |
| Miami | 2004-05 | Feeley (5), Fiedler (2), Rosenfels (1) |
The eight INT-return TDs is also the most in Jets history since 1967-68, when Joe Namath threw nine. Four of them came in Games 2-3 of the '68 season, and the question we could ask there is "How did that season turn out?"
But in general it's not a good idea to gift-wrap touchdowns for your foes. One good thing for Kellen Clemens or Mark Sanchez, whichever wins the Jets' starting QB this summer, is that they'll have been practicing against a defense that, in the city of Baltimore, has made a habit of returning picks for six, so they should be prepared in practice not to make those same mistakes in games.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (27)Ira Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 10:34am ET"Randy, I agree with you about Kellen and Sanchez getting to practice against a defense that should be one of the tops in the league. I will give Namath a break with his INT's. The game was different back then as you know. DB's could acually play football and cover a WR instead of today with the Ty Law rule and if you sneeze on a WR they throw a flag. Favre just got too careless with the ball."
Ira Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 10:45am ET"Randy, Which INT for a TD do you consider the biggest back breaker and game winner for the Jets in the past 20 years or so? I would say McAlister @Balt in 2000 and Coleman's @ Miami in 1999."
Randy Lange Said:
"Two good choices, Ira. For backbreaker I'd throw in the 94-yard return by Eric Allen (no relation to EA of newyorkjets.com) for the Eagles' go-ahead touchdown midway through the fourth quarter in the Jets' 35-30 loss in 1993. For gamewinner, I'd offer Brian Washington's 23-yard return with 1:41 left to ice the Jets' 24-17 upset of the Bills at Buffalo the game after "the Dennis Byrd game" in 1992."
36 year fan Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 11:22am ET"Randy , I heard Farve, the other night at dinner. Someone said please pass the salt ? Someone picked it off, and ran it back for a touchdown !!!"
36 year fan Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 11:28am ET"Randy , Don't you think the league might be going Overboard suspending Pace 4 games for an over the counter medicine ??? I mean come on who knows whats in those things, unless your a docter or chemist. And who reads all the crap on those labels . Sometimes they are very unclear. Sometimes the labels dont even include things or have different names for medicines."
Alan Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 12:26pm ET"Randy this is a question im dying to ask, If VG steps in for Pace which he probably will, for the first 4 games and does amazing, will he replace Bryan Thomas on the other end or will Pace, or just Replace pace all together, in your honest professional opinion of being a sports writer, what would you think the outcome would be in that scenario? thankyou"
Randy Lange Said:
"I'm not in the position predicting business anymore, Alan. But if Vernon Gholston steps in for Calvin Pace and does amazing in the first four games, Rex Ryan and Mike Pettine will figure out a way to keep him on the field as much as possible for the rest of the regular-season games."
Ira Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 2:46pm ET"Randy, Good choices too. Allen's INT game was the J. Mitchell 3 TD game.I forgot about that. Allen just ran through the entire team all over the field. Your right about Washington's. With the emotions of what had happened to Byrd the week before that has to go down as #1. "
Howard Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 3:54pm ET"on the c pace situation hes getting what he deserves,he is not the first player this has happened to.this stuff with these dieretics have been going on for 10 yrs now,and if im not mistaken the nfl gives each team a list of approved supplaments. i think this is what the williamses and the players with the saints r fighting they took nfl approved supplaments and came up dirty"
wayne Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 4:24pm ET"These men are professional athletes being paid millions of $$$ to do what they do.Countless athletes have used the same lame excuse that they got something over the counter.Why can't they simply have the product checked before taking it?WHAT'S THE RUSH!!!!? There are no INTs, in recent memory more back breaking than the A J Duhe ints. None. Since they interrupted a SB run."
Gregg from CA Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 5:38pm ET"Yeah, but... If you KNEW that you would lose the job of a lifetime if you screwed up, wouldn't you check with someone who DOES understand the label before you pop those pills? No sympathy here, I have enough trouble making my house payment! ;)"
Gregg from CA Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 5:44pm ET"...oh, yeah - As for the "Team Supplement Specialist" concept, let's not forget the old adage: "You can lead a horse to water, but...". What would you do if they failed to consult the Specialist or ignored his advice? Suspending the player would be counterproductive, and THAT remedy is obviously already in Pace.. uh, I mean place."
36 year fan Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 7:07pm ET"Randy ,Happy 4th of July. I think we have the best offensive line in football ."
Randy Lange Said:
"Happy Fourth to you, 36 year fan, and to all Jets fans. Less than four weeks to go till the start of training camp."
Dino Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 7:51pm ET"A lot of those picks for TD's are out patterns and many times the Backs are out too and not in the backfield...If they are picked, it's an open run for the DB all the way home. Those may not stop with a rookie QB using quick out patterns. Last year, even with Favre, they didnt open up the offense much and go downfield successfully enough. It;s mostly when offense is short and defense plays tight."
jet80 Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 9:20pm ET"These first 4 games are goin to be so important and for Pace to go and do something like this is plain stupid and im still in shock.I hear the names Murrell and Trusnik pop up alot what about Cummings?I think he has alot of upside and was pretty popular in camp last year if i remember right. If Gholston doesnt win the job then hes just a huge guy taking up alot of space,just another blunder "
Jetsman Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 10:48pm ET"Haha good one, 36 year fan, someone picked it off and ran it back for a touchdown. Did that really happen?"
Ira Said:
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 7:13am ET"jet80, I like what i saw from Cummings last summer. But he is a ILB and doesn't have the speed to play on the outside. I think he has a shot at making the roster. Besides WR and QB positions now the LB competition will be intriguing.And those 1st four games while you want to win them all getting out at 2-2 would be good considering you have a young QB and the teams they will face. GO JETS!!!!"
russ Said:
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 11:27am ET"The First Four games are the least relevent games in pro football ...its the last four games that make all the difference..so Paces absence is not important to the success of NY Jets....Most coaches know the last 8 games get you in the playoffs not the first 8...play 500 ball early and go for it late and you will be a consistent winner in the NFL...."
Frank Said:
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 12:34pm ET"This doesn't surpirse me about Pace I am tired of the whinning from a bunch of idiots making millions of dollars who blame everyone else but themselves for their stupidity. I hated the signing he is overrated, significantly overpaid and was a major reason we couldn't stop the pass last year. Between this, Ellis last year and Ryan not being a disciplinarian I am concerned about the team's direction"
wheels Said:
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 3:27pm ET" . . .whether he starts or not, Gholston is an important part of our D, . . .after just one season you clowns need to stop calling him "bust", "blunder", etc."
Ira Said:
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 5:06pm ET"Awful news about Steve McNair today. God Bless his soul."
Ira Said:
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 6:06pm ET"Randy I still cant believe what happened to McNair. He really left his mark on the game after he retired. He was one of the toughest players i have ever seen. I remember watching him throw 2 TD passes vs the Jets @ the Meadowlands in that rainstorm game that O'Donnell slipped during pregame warmups back in 96. "
garush Said:
Sat, July 4, 2009 - 10:57pm ET"mark sanchez better be smart......."
FrankTrain Said:
Sun, July 5, 2009 - 11:16am ET"One thing about defensive ends that get converted into linebackers is, it takes time to see the results, gholston leads the jets in sacks this year, and i'll put money on it."
Row Said:
Mon, July 6, 2009 - 8:56am ET"Gholston would have to get a pre-season sack first. I am pretty sure he has 0. In addition, when he did play at LB, he looked lost and was about as intense as Mike Nugent. Go Jets"
pat Said:
Wed, July 8, 2009 - 8:26pm ET"i agree on the gholston comment but i could care less if he leads the team in sacks... as long as he's not playing on his pop warner level we saw last year that'll be awesome... let's go all the way... JETS!"
ranger46 Said:
Thu, July 9, 2009 - 8:33pm ET"The Jets really ought to give E. Ainge a shot to beat out the two short guys. Ainge is a 6'6" point guard head, in a big guards body. He doesn't get sacked. 3 sacks in 533 pass attempts his senior year. Also had 325 completions to break Mannings record for a season. Led his team to two SEC East Titles in 3 years as the man. Despite media ignorance; he's got a gun, he wins and makes others better!"
Anonymous Said:
Fri, July 10, 2009 - 7:33pm ET"I agree, ranger46. I watched Ainge play for four years. He put up comparable numbers to Matt Ryan his senior year, threw the same number of TD's with nine fewer picks and twenty - yes, twenty - fewer sacks...and all this with a broken pinkie on his throwing hand. He was the Offensive MVP in the senior bowl, threw for 171 yards in less than a half and led the game-winning drive. "
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Anthony Said:
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 9:58am ET"As much as Favre threw picks we still had a winning record. And I just want to comment on the Calvin Pace situation. Why don't the jets hire a specialist that can give a list of supplements the players can cannot take. Seriously I would gladly take the job and work for the Jetslol. That would cut out alot of this I didn't know what i was taking garbage and we woudl still have all thestarters"
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